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10-04-2004, 01:52 AM
As many of you know, the FDA pulled Vioxx off the shelf, a commonly prescribed anti-inflammatory drug. Did any of you guys take it and what do you think about the FDA deciding to pull Vioxx off the shelf?

Personally, I think this just goes to show that the drug companies need to carry out longer trials if they're going to allow docs to prescribe these drugs for long term use. But, as many of you know, there's so much money involved.

"Vioxx study sounds warning for millions

By Linda A. Johnson
AP Business Writer

TRENTON, N.J. - Vioxx was already a big success as an arthritis pain reliever, but Merck & Co. thought it could be an even bigger seller. The drug seemed to have some cancer prevention qualities, so the drug maker began a long-term study to test it for that use.

The strategy backfired for the company, which Thursday pulled Vioxx off the market. The study showed the drug doubled the risk of heart attack and stroke. At the same time, it sounded an alarm for the millions of people who took Vioxx.

A similar case arose with Wyeth's hormone treatment Prempro two years ago. The huge Women's Health Initiative study -- launched to show that the drug could protect older women from heart disease -- unexpectedly found it did the opposite and more. Not only did it raise the risk of heart attack, it also brought a greater risk of stroke and breast cancer. Sales of Prempro and another Wyeth hormone drug, Premarin, have plunged by nearly half since then.

Earlier this year, Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.'s effort to give its cholesterol drug Pravachol an edge over Pfizer Inc.'s Lipitor, the country's top-selling drug, went awry when a head-to-head study funded by Bristol-Myers showed Pravachol was inferior.

"The only way these studies wind up getting done is if the companies see the gold at the end of the rainbow," complained Dr. Sidney Wolfe, co-founder of Public Citizen's Health Research Group. He said the Food and Drug Administration needs to push drug companies harder to do long-term safety studies of drugs on the market once concerns develop.

"I think greed may be a part of it," said Dr. John Norris, an internist, speaking of the motives behind drug companies doing more studies after they've already received approval. Norris is acting chief of staff at University Hospital in Newark.

University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Arthur Caplan said the problem is, "We're relying on the fox to tell us about what's wrong inside the chicken coop."

FDA spokeswoman Crystal Rice said the agency's authority is limited by law. The agency can only ask -- not order -- companies to do further safety studies on drugs already approved.

However, the FDA was able to require makers of antidepressants to study their safety in children under a law meant to increase testing for drugs for kids. Those studies led to findings this year that antidepressants slightly increase suicidal tendencies in children and adolescents.

As a result, FDA advisers now are urging that stringent warnings be added to package inserts for Celexa, Effexor, Luvox, Paxil, Prozac, Remeron, Serzone, Wellbutrin and Zoloft.

In some cases, experts say, such warnings on a drug's official labeling aren't sufficient.

Since 2002, Merck's Vioxx had a warning about increased cardiac risks based on results of its own post-approval study, but disputed its own findings and the drug remained on the market.

Merck undertook the latest study because less-rigorous experiments indicated Vioxx could prevent recurrence of potentially cancerous colon polyps, said company spokesman Tony Plohoros.

Dr. Alastair Wood, professor of pharmacology and associate dean at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, said it should not have taken so long for the heart risks to come to light.

"A helluva lot of people got the drug between 2000 and 2004, and a very quick, very cheap study would have determined that risk" had the FDA taken a tougher stance after the first sign of trouble, Wood said.

Independent health care analyst Hemant Shah of HKS & Co. in Warren, N.J., said if Merck had not done the colon polyps study, Vioxx probably would have been on the market for another year or two. "

Joe Schmoe
10-04-2004, 07:37 AM
I have a friend who has been using Vioxx for about three years & he's worried about his mobility without the drug.

High doses of Ibuprofin are suggested by some, do you know if there any longterm effect from using this?

Also, is the vascular damage done by Vioxx reversable after ending use?

10-05-2004, 08:16 AM
I used celebrex after a biking injury where I sprained my shoulder. The difference was night and day. Before that stuff, I had almost no mobility with my shoulder. Using Celebrex, I actually healed pretty well. It's a miracle drug.

10-05-2004, 01:27 PM
Celebrex seems to be a pretty safe drug. If I were the docs, I'd probably switch most of my Vioxx patients to Celebrex. It's just as effective and works in the same manner, blocking the COX-2 enzyme.

Joe Schmoe, the long-term effects aren't completely known yet. It appears that much of the damage can't be reversed though, as the drug permanently alters blood vessel tissue, thereby increasing the risk for strokes.

If you're friend can't function without Vioxx, he/she might try switching to a similar drug like Celebrex or Bextra. Both of those are in the same drug family, but don't have the side effects Vioxx has.

Ibuprofen has been used for many years, and there have been no long term side effects reported from its use. It can cause stomach irritation though, so you have to be careful in regards to that.