View Full Version : Unequal treatment by Logan County



Jersey Boss
11-18-2022, 05:19 PM
Favortism again shown by Law Enforcement when dealing with the family of the Governor. Seems like some oversight needs to be shown. This is not a political issue but an equal treatment under the law of all state residents issue. Why did Logan County involve the Highway Patrol? Inquiring minds want answers.

https://okcfox.com/news/local/governor-kevin-stitt-son-logan-county-guthrie-haunts-halloween-beer-alcohol-guns-oklahoma-highway-patrol-ohp-stillwater-payne-county-john-drew-october-31-2022-twisted-tea-naturday-truck-inventory

Bellaboo
11-19-2022, 06:57 AM
Yep, Stitt is definitely the king....smdh

MagzOK
11-19-2022, 08:37 AM
There's a reason nobody has been arrested -- it's because no crime has been committed. The Troopers involved were likely those assigned to the governor's detail. If you read the story before just assuming BS because it's the governor, Logan County didn't call the troopers, the son called the mother who in turn sent the troopers to handle. Keep in mind this is a personal detail assigned to the governor and family.

When I was young and dumb, we were all underage and caught drinking at the pumpjacks outside of town and the deputies used their discretion and had us call our parents who in turn came to pick us up, drive our vehicles home, etc, and no harm no foul. Only difference here is that it's the kid of a politician that many on this website are vocal about not liking.

The guns aren't an issue either since it's legal to have them. Sure they should be locked up and more secure than they apparently were, but again no crime there just stupid youngsters.

Jeepnokc
11-19-2022, 09:14 AM
There's a reason nobody has been arrested -- it's because no crime has been committed. The Troopers involved were likely those assigned to the governor's detail. If you read the story before just assuming BS because it's the governor, Logan County didn't call the troopers, the son called the mother who in turn sent the troopers to handle. Keep in mind this is a personal detail assigned to the governor and family.

When I was young and dumb, we were all underage and caught drinking at the pumpjacks outside of town and the deputies used their discretion and had us call our parents who in turn came to pick us up, drive our vehicles home, etc, and no harm no foul. Only difference here is that it's the kid of a politician that many on this website are vocal about not liking.

The guns aren't an issue either since it's legal to have them. Sure they should be locked up and more secure than they apparently were, but again no crime there just stupid youngsters.

Actually, you have minor in possession as well as public intoxication. Lots of minors in neighboring Payne county go to jail for that all the time. He is probably ok on the guns as it isn't against the law to transport under the influence of alcohol...it is illegal to carry a firearm under the influence. He was not carrying here from what the police report says

HangryHippo
11-19-2022, 09:31 AM
Actually, you have minor in possession as well as public intoxication. Lots of minors in neighboring Payne county go to jail for that all the time. He is probably ok on the guns as it isn't against the law to transport under the influence of alcohol...it is illegal to carry a firearm under the influence. He was not carrying here from what the police report says
Don’t bother with facts. lol

Jeepnokc
11-19-2022, 09:55 AM
Don’t bother with facts. lol

Have you read the actual police report? I have, Stitt admits he was intoxicated. The beer was found in his truck. Seems pretty factual to me. There aren't facts to support any gun related charges which is why I said he is probably ok on those.

HangryHippo
11-19-2022, 11:50 AM
Have you read the actual police report? I have, Stitt admits he was intoxicated. The beer was found in his truck. Seems pretty factual to me. There aren't facts to support any gun related charges which is why I said he is probably ok on those.

Jeep - I did read it and was replying (sarcastically) to Magz, not you.

MagzOK
11-19-2022, 12:13 PM
Jeep - I did read it and was replying (sarcastically) to Magz, not you.

A. He wasn't observed by authorities driving while intoxicated B. Minor in Possession is a misdemeanor not subject to arrest C. The level of public intoxication is determined by the responding authorities and they have the discretion on how to remedy the situation D. He cooperated with the authorities on the scene

Someone reported that a can was thrown from the vehicle which hit another car. Unfortunately this is an unproven allegation, though having been a young teenage boy at one time I can see this happening.

Minors get caught all the time doing stupid crap they shouldn't be doing, but there was nothing in the police report that rises to the level of arrest.

In fact, a lesson could be learned here that if you just cooperate with authorities and do what they ask, they just might cut you some slack. That being said, I won't dispute that sometimes who-ya-know helps and that is nothing new nor is it a Republican versus Democrat issue.

Thanks.

Jersey Boss
11-19-2022, 02:15 PM
^(B) What statute exempts misdemeanors from arrest? (C) No level of intox by a minor is permissable or discresionary.
As far as the personal detail of troopers.. Son is no longer living with the Governor and is over 18. In any case that detail is for security and not for legal intervention on behalf of Sara Stitt.

MagzOK
11-19-2022, 04:11 PM
^(B) What statute exempts misdemeanors from arrest? (C) No level of intox by a minor is permissable or discresionary..

First of all I didn't say that misdemeanors were exempt from arrest, but if you know anything about policing it is at a responding officer's discretion how to handle such a call. Please show me the law where it states you MUST be arrested at the sight of a misdemeanor, even a minor. I personally agree that no level of intoxication should be permissible for a minor, but again, where in the law is it that the minor must be arrested for such a deed?

Facts versus opinions.

The troopers weren't sent for "legal intervention" if you'd read the articles. They were sent to retrieve the firearms at the request of the first family, which are reportedly the Governor's belongings.

Anyway, I'm not surprised at the hatred of the state's conservative leadership that this would be spurred into something it just isn't.

Take care.

Midtowner
11-19-2022, 06:55 PM
Sounds like it could have been an APC too.

Brett
11-20-2022, 04:43 AM
I've heard the term "professional courtesy" used when situations like this arise.

Rover
11-20-2022, 07:34 PM
First of all I didn't say that misdemeanors were exempt from arrest, but if you know anything about policing it is at a responding officer's discretion how to handle such a call. Please show me the law where it states you MUST be arrested at the sight of a misdemeanor, even a minor. I personally agree that no level of intoxication should be permissible for a minor, but again, where in the law is it that the minor must be arrested for such a deed?

Facts versus opinions.

The troopers weren't sent for "legal intervention" if you'd read the articles. They were sent to retrieve the firearms at the request of the first family, which are reportedly the Governor's belongings.

Anyway, I'm not surprised at the hatred of the state's conservative leadership that this would be spurred into something it just isn't.

Take care.
Better to just look the other way, right? Wanting conservatives to follow the law that they demand everyone else follow is “hatred”. What spin.

Jersey Boss
11-21-2022, 08:39 AM
I've heard the term "professional courtesy" used when situations like this arise.

The term "privlage" is what this inaction describes. Professional courtesy is extended to those in like professions.

Pete
11-21-2022, 02:03 PM
It's interesting all this happened on Halloween and yet there was no report until after the election.


https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/government/2022/11/21/oklahoma-gov-kevin-stitt-son-gun-alcohol-charges-halloween/69667288007/?fbclid=IwAR1hJ8hfZYDpoLjTZeebK8LcPP1is9-XqqBiXKUFssWEktJAgaEX8nabxIw


GUTHRIE − Following a Halloween incident in Guthrie, the Logan County Sheriff's Office recommended that a charge be filed against the governor's son for possessing alcohol as a minor, according to a probable cause affidavit obtained by The Oklahoman.

The Logan County district attorney's office, which received the recommendation, has not filed any related charges and declined to comment to The Oklahoman on Monday.

catcherinthewry
11-21-2022, 03:56 PM
A much more in depth article about the situation.

https://nondoc.com/2022/11/21/drew-stitt-others-offered-deferred-prosecution-if-they-enter-das-program/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=nondocmedia&utm_content=Drew%20Stitt,%20others%20offered%20def erred%20prosecution%20if%20they%20enter%20DA%27s%2 0program

Jeepnokc
11-21-2022, 04:23 PM
Always enjoy TLO's take

https://thelostogle.com/2022/11/19/ohp-escorts-stitts-under-age-son-home-after-he-was-caught-intoxicated-with-guns-at-guthrie-haunted-house

Midtowner
11-29-2022, 07:01 AM
I wouldn't go too hard on Stitt's family on this issue. As much as it pains me, and as much as I have been routinely disgusted by the Governor's making available the State government for looting by the well-connected, this is an entirely separate issue, and I don't think it really has much to do with the governor's office.

I'm sure if you looked at the children of Oak Tree families or other well-appointed north Logan County families' treatment by the local constabulary, you'd run into a lot of similar treatment. I'm not sure whether that sort of treatment would extend to racial minorities in that area because to be honest, I'm not sure there really are that many racial minorities in that area.

Does that make it right or just? No. But blaming some entitled brat kid for a system which has existed since before his birth and without significant intervention will continue beyond his death seems like misassigned blame.

Plutonic Panda
11-29-2022, 07:09 AM
^^^^ I’m more disgusted with the local media that seemed to sit on this until after the election than anything.

TheTravellers
11-29-2022, 08:06 AM
^^^^ I’m more disgusted with the local media that seemed to sit on this until after the election than anything.

:yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat:

Midtowner
11-29-2022, 08:12 AM
^^^^ I’m more disgusted with the local media that seemed to sit on this until after the election than anything.

That wouldn't have changed a single vote. And it shouldn't have.

Stitt beat his better-funded Democrat opponent by 10 points. He lost OKC and drew even in Tulsa.

Until Dems figure out a way to not be the great Satan of the rural counties, it doesn't matter how bad the GOP incumbant is.

BoulderSooner
11-29-2022, 08:13 AM
That wouldn't have changed a single vote. And it shouldn't have.

Stitt beat his better-funded Democrat opponent by 10 points. He lost OKC and drew even in Tulsa.

Until Dems figure out a way to not be the great Satan of the rural counties, it doesn't matter how bad the GOP incumbant is.

all true .. ... and to point it out even more he actually won by 13.7 points

TheTravellers
11-29-2022, 08:19 AM
That wouldn't have changed a single vote. And it shouldn't have.

Stitt beat his better-funded Democrat opponent by 10 points. He lost OKC and drew even in Tulsa.

Until Dems figure out a way to not be the great Satan of the rural counties, it doesn't matter how bad the GOP incumbant is.

Speaking as a lifelong Independent, the Democrat party (as a whole entity) is an absolute idiot at figuring out how to do things like that.

Midtowner
11-29-2022, 08:42 AM
Speaking as a lifelong Independent, the Democrat party (as a whole entity) is an absolute idiot at figuring out how to do things like that.

The Dem party needs to appoint a chair from a rural part fo the state right now--or at the very least, a co-chair. Appealing to an urban base whilst ignoring the hinterlands may work for you in Pennsylvania and Georgia, but it's clearly a recipe for disaster in Oklahoma. I may even have someone in mind who would perfectly fit the bill.

Canoe
11-29-2022, 09:26 AM
Man, what low quality beers. That alone shows a lack of maturity. How old is this young man?

Plutonic Panda
11-29-2022, 10:33 PM
That wouldn't have changed a single vote. And it shouldn't have.

Stitt beat his better-funded Democrat opponent by 10 points. He lost OKC and drew even in Tulsa.

Until Dems figure out a way to not be the great Satan of the rural counties, it doesn't matter how bad the GOP incumbant is.
I never said it would’ve changed the outcome. Claiming it wouldn’t change a single vote is a bit ridiculous. It still does the fact they obviously held the story back to prevent negative press.