So Mark decided to rebrand Facebook to Meta. Not sure if that’ll be the actual name or what. The idea is to create a 3-D version of the internet. If they can pull it off I’d imagine this will be huge if done right. I wonder if they’ll be new rooms added to homes or existing ones retrofitted to use this technology. I don’t know how excited I will be to reduce in person visits with many things.

Facebook is spending a lot of money for this:


The big picture: Facebook is investing billions in its metaverse push. On its earnings call this week, the company said investments in its augmented and virtual reality efforts will dent operating earnings by $10 billion this year.

https://www.axios.com/facebook-metaverse-expansion-plans-95dcbec4-fe22-413e-b3b3-8d1fc7ab3036.html

Marks Facebook post:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10114026953010521&id=4&m_entstream_source=feed_mobile

Meta is the company name. Facebook is a product, like Alphabet and Google.

The metaverse concept was literally lifted from dystopian fiction. Zuckerberg and Facebook are a cancer on the world and this metaverse concept is garbage. Do you want me to tell you how I really feel?

Meta is the company name. Facebook is a product, like Alphabet and Google.

The metaverse concept was literally lifted from dystopian fiction. Zuckerberg and Facebook are a cancer on the world and this metaverse concept is garbage. Do you want me to tell you how I really feel?
Yes I do and the implications from this could be huge a good thing or bad. Lots of old horny men would like it boom there is a huge market right there lol. It's a little weird but you know it's the truth. I am sure the biggest porn companies are already looking at it.

On a less vulgar note it would be useful for meetings. I really do not like platforms like Zoom or Skype. Complete simulations of scenarios like meeting rooms would be interesting. No I am not interested in replacing visits with friends and loved one with virtual reality. Same for concerts or movies. I love movie theatres and and live concerts for the social aspect. Though reimaging old historic concerts would be cool. Imagine reliving or experiencing the real Woodstock. Eat some shrooms and throw the headset on.

https://singularityhub.com/2019/11/25/synthetic-skin-is-bringing-a-sense-of-touch-to-virtual-reality/

Though yeah I have seen this technology in dystopian and utopian concepts alike I feel as if humanity is reaching a point where more and more that is the type of tech we will see. Technology is advancing at a rapid pace it's pretty exciting for better or worse.

Facebook is bad but this larger metaverse concept is inevitable imo, and in the VR/AR space Facebook is really doing good work on growing and expanding the reach. They're also the first VR company to come close to seeing sort of mainstream visibility/reach.

Disclaimer: I own two Oculus Quests and I've convinced multiple friends to get one as well.

Going further, hopefully when we see a true metaverse in existence (and by this I mean the merging of reality, VR, and augmented reality into truly functional shared spaces, and not the distopic Neal Stephenson variety) it will be independent and not a platform controlled by a single entity. I always envisioned another network layer on the internet. Ready Player One (for all of it's many flaws) does a good job of showing the dangers with a single company in control of this type of platform.

With everything that's come out about facemetabook of late, they've shown that they deserve zero trust with any amount of our data.

With everything that's come out about facemetabook of late, they've shown that they deserve zero trust with any amount of our data.

Agreed, and I really hope the momentum to break them (and google) up continues to build.

Going further, hopefully when we see a true metaverse in existence (and by this I mean the merging of reality, VR, and augmented reality into truly functional shared spaces, and not the distopic Neal Stephenson variety) it will be independent and not a platform controlled by a single entity. I always envisioned another network layer on the internet. Ready Player One (for all of it's many flaws) does a good job of showing the dangers with a single company in control of this type of platform.
I still need to watch that movie.

I'd recommend reading the book first, but just the first one. It's a fairly easy/quick read, and I enjoyed it more than the movie, but the movie is still fun.

Agreed, and I really hope the momentum to break them (and google) up continues to build.

I'm not sure breaking them up solves the key problem. For example if you made them spin off IG and WA, so many problems still exist with the legacy app.

Facebook is bad but this larger metaverse concept is inevitable imo, and in the VR/AR space Facebook is really doing good work on growing and expanding the reach. They're also the first VR company to come close to seeing sort of mainstream visibility/reach.

Disclaimer: I own two Oculus Quests and I've convinced multiple friends to get one as well.

Can I borrow one to play Half Life Alyx? lol

I really don't understand anything about this. LOL

I really don't understand anything about this. LOL
I don’t get the technical aspect but the product we will get is virtual reality that will be amped up to another level.

Here’s a video explaining it in a lump sum


https://youtu.be/gElfIo6uw4g

Here’s an hour long video for those who want to watch it all:


https://youtu.be/Uvufun6xer8

I imagine that houses will have equipment or possibly entire rooms dedicated to this with tech like this but improved:


https://youtu.be/gkh3_9VmYnQ

I honestly just don't see the average person jumping into this anytime soon. I know I won't be.

I honestly just don't see the average person jumping into this anytime soon. I know I won't be.

These types of AR/VR spaces (see Roblox) already are used by some young people, but it's definitely not something I have any interest in. The bigger problem is that there's absolutely no reason to trust Facebook or Zuckerberg to do any of this ethically. I know if my institution tried to adopt anything like this for a work environment I would protest and refuse. In the end, I think these metaverses will gain popularity, but I am hoping Meta/Facebook's brand is too toxic for them to succeed. But, yeah, I find this product largely unappealing. I've tried to untether myself from wearable/mobile technologies more and more, not immerse myself in them completely, in recent years. I hope that's where our society is headed.

I'm not really excited for the Metaverse VR experience, but I recently tried their Quest 2 headset and was pretty impressed with the ease of setup, no need for external sensors, and general graphics performance in "simple" games like Beat Saber or Table Tennis. I also played Half Life Alyx connected to a gaming laptop with modern specs (11700, RTX 3070). The graphics performance was of course better, but I felt like the screen resolution could be improved.

I'm more excited for the fact they're going to release a new cutting edge headset with the latest tech. I imagine the pixel density & refresh rate of the new model will blow the Quest 2 away.

Additionally, since the goal is to get people in to the Metaverse product where FB will take a cut of storefront & peer to peer microtransactions - I'd be willing to bet the MSRP of the new VR headset will be subsidized a bit. (In the same way that Xbox & Playstation's business model is to lose a little on the new hardware, but make up for it in their software & licensing ecosystem.) I'd be content to buy the headset and just use with my PC for gaming.

I'm not too personally worried about signing in to a VR headset with my FB account. It's not like I'm cooking meth and I don't want my boss to find out. Everybody knows I game and I don't keep it a secret it any other aspect of my life.

Also excited about the fact that if somebody starts spewing conspiracies & misinformation in my Metaverse, I'll VR punch them in the face.

PS - I think Zuckerberg would look less creepy if had eyebrows.
https://i.imgur.com/HQjxggr.png
Please discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O4LQII6gLc

PS - I think Zuckerberg would look less creepy if had eyebrows.
https://i.imgur.com/HQjxggr.png
Please discuss.

Zuckerberg stole the "no eyebrows" look from Oracle's Larry Ellison and tweaked Apple's Steve Jobs iconic black turtleneck with a long-sleeved, crew neck black shirt.

I honestly just don't see the average person jumping into this anytime soon. I know I won't be.

I don't know if I would call them average, but it does seem like a lot of people already live in the Facebook Metaverse. Or, at least, their understanding of the real universe is greatly informed by what they see / read on Facebook and other social media.

Meta is the company name. Facebook is a product, like Alphabet and Google.

The metaverse concept was literally lifted from dystopian fiction. Zuckerberg and Facebook are a cancer on the world and this metaverse concept is garbage. Do you want me to tell you how I really feel?

I can agree with that and add twitter, youtube, tictok to that list as well. So much crap data/information out there that people will look for any information verified by an "expert" without using any critical thinking skills. The problem is that even experts are being pulled into the social media craze and being judged by their social media status rather than actually using data and facts to support their position.

My honest opinion is this, Facebook has some great resources and amazing groups but the overreach of placing people in "Facebook jail" is too much. I was banned for 30 days for saying I don't think Trump is racist. Then I was banned another time for calling someone an anti science nut for being an anti vaxxer. Another time I was banned for telling someone who said the world needs to be rid of humans to put their money where their mouth is and start with themselves. I'm done. When I can afford a new computer I am downloading all of my data and deleting Facebook. I still want to purchase Oculus so I am not sure if you have to have an account for that or not.

Youtube has some things with I don't like and I am skeptical of trusting Google but I use GMail and MAPS too much to switch. Youtube has incredible content as well.

The worst offender is Reddit, IMO. I gave it a try and I can't stand it. There is so much over moderation it's nuts. My post was removed about horror movies when I asked what was the most underrated horror movie you love; I went on to explain my list of movies. I was told I was trying to start a "flame war." 4th time I've been accused of that. F@ck that, I have better things to do.

This is interesting - all the acquisitions they've done over the past 14 years.

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Looks like Facebook is having another internet outage today. Messenger and Instagram affected,

My honest opinion is this, Facebook has some great resources and amazing groups but the overreach of placing people in "Facebook jail" is too much. I was banned for 30 days for saying I don't think Trump is racist. Then I was banned another time for calling someone an anti science nut for being an anti vaxxer. Another time I was banned for telling someone who said the world needs to be rid of humans to put their money where their mouth is and start with themselves. I'm done. When I can afford a new computer I am downloading all of my data and deleting Facebook. I still want to purchase Oculus so I am not sure if you have to have an account for that or not.

Youtube has some things with I don't like and I am skeptical of trusting Google but I use GMail and MAPS too much to switch. Youtube has incredible content as well.

The worst offender is Reddit, IMO. I gave it a try and I can't stand it. There is so much over moderation it's nuts. My post was removed about horror movies when I asked what was the most underrated horror movie you love; I went on to explain my list of movies. I was told I was trying to start a "flame war." 4th time I've been accused of that. F@ck that, I have better things to do.

To me, individual Facebook members who don't like what you're saying about the issues should ban or delete you, not Facebook itself. But on the other hand, though, it's Facebook's web space you're using as well as Reddit's.

Why We Should Reject Mark Zuckerberg's Dehumanizing Vision of a "Metaverse" (https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/11/15/why-we-should-reject-mark-zuckerbergs-dehumanizing-vision-metaverse)

Who needs FB metaverse? Plenty of other decentralized metaverses going up in crypto spaces such as Ethereum and Cardano.

Who needs FB metaverse? Plenty of other decentralized metaverses going up in crypto spaces such as Ethereum and Cardano.

Given the significant environmental drawbacks of (most) blockchain technologies, personally I'll pass on crypto metaverses (right along with Zuck's metaverse too). Besides, VRChat and NeosVR* are already things that exist without being tied at the hip to crypto nonsense. I'd rather not add any more fuel to the fire that has made securing a new graphics card so much harder than it used to be.

*(Yes I'm aware NeosVR does have in-game currency based on Ethereum, but it's not in all versions of the game and isn't required to enter and explore this virtual world)

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