View Full Version : Justice Ginsburg Has Passed Away



Bunty
09-18-2020, 05:52 PM
RIP

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead/index.html

jerrywall
09-18-2020, 06:10 PM
Crap. And this is gonna get nasty.

If the GOP is determined to rush through a nomination is there any parliamentarian or legal way for the Dems to slow them down or prevent them?

BoulderSooner
09-18-2020, 06:13 PM
Crap. And this is gonna get nasty.

If the GOP is determined to rush through a nomination is there any parliamentarian or legal way for the Dems to slow them down or prevent them?

Nope

catcherinthewry
09-18-2020, 06:18 PM
“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.” - Mitch McConnell 2016

jerrywall
09-18-2020, 06:21 PM
“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.” - Mitch McConnell 2016

That's not gonna make a difference. They've already prerationalized it a bit ago when he was asked a hypothetical about this exact situation.

The big question is if 4 Republicans will refuse.tk confirm anyone. I could see Romney for one. That could depend on his presidential aspirations.

catcherinthewry
09-18-2020, 06:27 PM
That's not gonna make a difference. They've already prerationalized it a bit ago when he was asked a hypothetical about this exact situation.

I totally agree. Just wanted to put McConnell's hypocrisy on the record.

PoliSciGuy
09-18-2020, 06:53 PM
McConnell has already said the nominee will get a vote:

https://twitter.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1307119229750173696

The amount of hypocrisy in this party is just staggering.

Laramie
09-18-2020, 06:55 PM
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies at 87.

https://news.uchicago.edu/sites/default/files/styles/square_feature/public/images/2019-08/UChicago-Ruth-Bader-Ginsberg-RBG.jpg?h=bf76f461&itok=Vkxk31Zk

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a diminutive yet towering women’s rights champion who became the court’s second female justice, died Friday at her home in Washington. She was 87.--AP - Oklahoman, September 18, 2020

PoliSciGuy
09-18-2020, 06:59 PM
Already another thread

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=45967

Laramie
09-18-2020, 07:05 PM
Didn't check the politics thread. Thanks for the update...

Canoe
09-18-2020, 07:29 PM
RIP

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead/index.html

Oh no!

MadMonk
09-18-2020, 07:37 PM
Rest in peace to a woman who fought so fervently and adamantly for what she believed in. Regardless of her political orientation, she embodied many of the qualities that makes this country great – tenacity, determination, and persistence.

jerrywall
09-18-2020, 08:00 PM
I know I have a lot of friends who are completely heart broken tonight. It's one more hit of 2020 for them. Regardless of whether I agreed with her rulings, she was a valuable voice on the court and will be missed by many.

OKCretro
09-18-2020, 08:18 PM
Didn't fact pattern than 2016.

TheTravellers
09-18-2020, 08:30 PM
The justice dictated a statement to her granddaughter in the days before her death, NPR reported. Ginsburg said: “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.”

TheTravellers
09-18-2020, 08:33 PM
“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.” - Mitch McConnell 2016

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1307104888963428357?s=20

OKCretro
09-18-2020, 08:36 PM
Trump initial response to hearing the news....

“She just died? Wow, I didn't know that — I just, uh, you’re telling me now for the first time,” Trump said on the tarmac as Elton John’s “Tiny Dancer,” a staple of the house music at the president’s rallies, could be heard in the background.

“She led an amazing life,” Trump continued. “What else can you say? She was an amazing woman, whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life. Um, actually saddened to hear. I am saddened to hear that.”

https://news.yahoo.com/watch-trump-react-to-death-of-ruth-bader-ginsburg-scotus-021634002.html?ncid=twitter_yahoonewst_sjwumo1bpf4

OKCretro
09-18-2020, 08:38 PM
The justice dictated a statement to her granddaughter in the days before her death, NPR reported. Ginsburg said: “My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed.”

So wait if Trump wins she doesn't want her seat filled until 2024 when there is a "new president"? I guess she can wish for that.

Bunty
09-18-2020, 09:50 PM
I think Oklahoma can best remember Ginsburg during her younger legal career when in 1976 she helped get the U. S. Supreme Court in Craig vs Boren to see in a 7 to 2 landmark decision that the Oklahoma law that let females legally buy 3.2% beer at age 18 but males had to wait until 21 was unjust gender discrimination and was unconstitutional. As a result the college bar scene in Stillwater multiplied like crazy. Surely, Norman, too.

Mr. Blue Sky
09-18-2020, 10:05 PM
McConnell’s reasoning is that Obama was a lame duck president.
(Excuse me, Mitch. I missed that in the constitution)
Truly, a simple solution/compromise that goes right along with the spirit of McConnell’s thinking in 2016 — Let Trump nominate someone, but only go forward after we know if Trump has been re-elected on November 3rd. If not, he would withdrawal the nomination and “letting the people decide” the Senate would then await President Biden’s nomination anytime after 12:01pm on January 20th, 2021.
This is a serious proposal. Democrats and Republicans should have no problem with this as it would be the same scenario as 2016. Anything less, and moving a nomination forward, would truly be hypocritical at its worst — possibly literally the worst in the political arena — where we all know hypocrisy reigns. That’s saying something.

Cocaine
09-18-2020, 11:24 PM
Well we should let Ginsburg rest in peace. But this is gonna get ugly in Congress incredibly ugly. I wonder if this will basically hold up any type of stimulus bill considering how the senate basically did nothing for the past 4 months. I guess we get the senate that we deserve.

Mr. Blue Sky
09-19-2020, 01:09 AM
I think Oklahoma can best remember Ginsburg during her younger legal career when in 1976 she helped get the U. S. Supreme Court in Craig vs Boren to see in a 7 to 2 landmark decision that the Oklahoma law that let females legally buy 3.2% beer at age 18 but males had to wait until 21 was unjust gender discrimination and was unconstitutional. As a result the college bar scene in Stillwater multiplied like crazy. Surely, Norman, too.

I had forgotten about this. Looking back, how did anyone in their right mind think they could get away with selling something - only to females? The appendage disqualified you from a retail purchase. What weird times.

Yes. RIP to RBG. Agree or disagree — she was a giant of the court.