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dankrutka
06-30-2017, 09:08 PM
Wow! What a move by Presti! The Thunder traded Oladipo and Sabonis to Indiana for Paul George. While I like both Oladipo and Sabonis I had worries about each, particularly Oladipo's contract ($20 million is just too much) and Sabonis (really struggled and is just on a different timeline than Russ). The Thunder gave up no picks in the trade (!!!). Paul George is a top 10-15 player in the league. There is a decent chance he leaves for the Lakers after this season. And, even if that happens, I think this was a worthy risk. OKC has a year to try to convince him to stay and make a run. Most small market teams can only dream of a team like this... even for one season. Everyone buckle up, it's going to be a fun ride!

OkiePoke
06-30-2017, 09:21 PM
Created a lot of cap space to go after FA's in 2018. Great move.

Basically traded Ibaka for 1 year of PG13 & Grant.

dcsooner
06-30-2017, 09:33 PM
Wow! What a move by Presti! The Thunder traded Oladipo and Sabonis to Indiana for Paul George. While I like both Oladipo and Sabonis I had worries about each, particularly Oladipo's contract ($20 million is just too much) and Sabonis (really struggled and is just on a different timeline than Russ). The Thunder gave up no picks in the trade (!!!). Paul George is a top 10-15 player in the league. There is a decent chance he leaves for the Lakers after this season. And, even if that happens, I think this was a worthy risk. OKC has a year to try to convince him to stay and make a run. Most small market teams can only dream of a team like this... even for one season. Everyone buckle up, it's going to be a fun ride!
Agree with all you said. Even if he leaves it will be worth it. Who knows, he a Russ could actually mesh. Great move money wise as well

SOONER8693
06-30-2017, 09:43 PM
Agree with all you said. Even if he leaves it will be worth it. Who knows, he a Russ could actually mesh. Great move money wise as well
Absolutely brilliant move.

Easy180
07-01-2017, 01:12 AM
Should make next season more interesting. Still not enough to take on the Warriors but will be interested to see how well George and Westbrook play together.

cinnamonjock
07-01-2017, 04:28 AM
Presti is a magician. I've seen people rank George as 7-8 in the league. Now I'm actually getting excited for this season of basketball.

Laramie
07-01-2017, 05:51 AM
Dan, you beat me to the punch.

Wake up board buddies . . .

Tell me I'm dreaming? I've been pinching myself since KOCO-TV 5 broke the story. Now NBA-TV is calling this a huge trade--game changer since it took the option of George joining the Celtics off the table. Boston's GM blinked; no chance for George or Griffin.

Did the Thunder just acquire PAUL GEORGE (Indiana Pacers). He & Westbrook will be a thorn in any team's side. Had to give up Oladipo & Sabonis. Now let's go get Rudy Gay.

Is Presti under 'pressure' since the lost of Durant?

chuck5815
07-01-2017, 07:34 AM
Dan, you beat me to the punch.

Wake up board buddies . . .

Tell me I'm dreaming? I've been pinching myself since KOCO-TV 5 broke the story. Now NBA-TV is calling this a huge trade--game changer since it took the option of George joining the Celtics off the table. Boston's GM blinked; no chance for George or Griffin.

Did the Thunder just acquire PAUL GEORGE (Indiana Pacers). He & Westbrook will be a thorn in any team's side. Had to give up Oladipo & Sabonis. Now let's go get Rudy Gay.

Is Presti under 'pressure' since the lost of Durant?

I don't like the idea of Gay very much. The team struggled mightily with ball movement and the flow of its offense last year. The last thing it needs is a mid-range loving, ball stopping black hole like Gay. If anything, OKC needs more three point shooting. I wouldn't mind if Sam took a flyer on a guy like Ben McLemore. He shot close to 40% on 3's last season and is a fairly capable defender. Would also be a super cheap contract.

Jake
07-01-2017, 07:46 AM
The fact that the team is immediately better and suddenly has breathing room to do more deals, the trade was great.

The Thunder are actually saving money by trading Oladipo as well:
Oladipo - $21,000,000
George - $19,508,000

bradh
07-01-2017, 07:53 AM
man the league is shaping up to be allsome all around this coming season. i'm interested to see if the Wolves can finally play up to their talent level

Bellaboo
07-01-2017, 08:45 AM
14 or the top 15 players in the league are now in the West. LeBron is the only East player and he is ranked #1.

Bellaboo
07-01-2017, 08:53 AM
The fact that the team is immediately better and suddenly has breathing room to do more deals, the trade was great.

The Thunder are actually saving money by trading Oladipo as well:
Oladipo - $21,000,000
George - $19,508,000

I think Sabonis was around 2 mil also.

SoonerDave
07-01-2017, 08:56 AM
I've been ragging a bit on Presti for seemingly kinda letting things meander, so I've gotta give props where props are due. This a huge deal for the Thunder. Huge.

Jake
07-01-2017, 09:08 AM
I think Sabonis was around 2 mil also.

Good point!

chuck5815
07-01-2017, 09:40 AM
If you're Presti, you almost have to pay Taj Gibson and Roberson at this point.

bradh
07-01-2017, 09:57 AM
If we are able to do that Chuck I like our team. You have Gibson and Grant to cover the 4, shooters in McDermott and Abrines off the bench and then of course Kanter spelling Adams.

Jake
07-01-2017, 10:29 AM
Bet Presti is shopping Kanter around to see what he could get with him. His contract isn't great, but neither was Oladipo's and look what that was able to fetch.

Getting his 17 million off the books would be a giant help.

dankrutka
07-01-2017, 10:46 AM
I don't like the idea of Gay very much. The team struggled mightily with ball movement and the flow of its offense last year. The last thing it needs is a mid-range loving, ball stopping black hole like Gay. If anything, OKC needs more three point shooting. I wouldn't mind if Sam took a flyer on a guy like Ben McLemore. He shot close to 40% on 3's last season and is a fairly capable defender. Would also be a super cheap contract.

^^^ Co-sign.

I do think Abrines and McDermott will get more opportunities and open looks next season. So, hopefully the Thunder's three point shooting can improve internally, but adding another competent three point shooter would help. As to Gay, if he is willing to play the four and accept a role that fits the team then he could work, but I'm not interested in the Gay that plays the three, stops the ball, and plays in the midrange. I'd much rather have Taj, but I am sure the market may force OKC's hands.

This is the year OKC has to spend big to try to convince guys to stay. After this season, either players stay or it's a clear rebuild. Either way, I think it's the right move.

bhawes
07-01-2017, 10:59 AM
If Presti was a majician we would of kept Hardin. Then Thunder would of had at least two titles by now. Our three of Westbrook, Durant and Harden
was better then Curry, Klay and Green.

king183
07-01-2017, 11:23 AM
If Presti was a majician we would of kept Hardin. Then Thunder would of had at least two titles by now. Our three of Westbrook, Durant and Harden
was better then Curry, Klay and Green.

I was wondering when a silly comment like this would show up. Of course it was Presti's fault that Durant broke his foot in one year of contention and Westbrook was injured by Patrick Beverley for another and Ibaka injured his calf. Definitely Presti's fault that our two stars turned the ball over several times in the last few minutes of the GSW close out last year and couldn't defend Thompson to save our lives.

I see so many people who know little about how the NBA works relentlessly bashing Presti for not making the team better. Huh?

Well, he just did with the George trade and, according to reports out today, he was trying to get that trade done during the season before the trade deadline and then again on draft night. He has proven himself time and again, yet he'll never satisfy those who think we need KD, Russ, LeBron, Curry, and Blake Griffin on the same team STAT or everything is a massive failure.

Laramie
07-01-2017, 11:59 AM
If Presti was a majician we would of kept Hardin. Then Thunder would of had at least two titles by now. Our three of Westbrook, Durant and Harden
was better then Curry, Klay and Green.

Presti went into a tirade when he learned that Harden was staying out late and partying during the 2012 playoffs against Miami. We should have kept Livingston (who rehabed with the Thunder) instead of hanging on to Harden's partner in crime (Eric Maynor).

The two (Harden/Maynor) were like cockhounds sniffing out their next lap dance. Thank God Oklahoma did away with allowing strippers to go totally nude. Valley Brook would have a couple of high rises (no pun intended) and a police station comparable to OKC's.

gopokes88
07-01-2017, 12:26 PM
If you've ever doubted Presti I'll be serving crow all day.

Laramie
07-01-2017, 06:48 PM
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Rudy Gay #35

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Enes Kanter tweeted a picture of two empty chairs in the Thunder's practice facility locker room, with Russell Westbrook's locker next to a new name plate for Rudy Gay. League sources tell ESPN that nothing is done between Gay and the Thunder, but that Gay is in Oklahoma City meeting with the team and touring the practice facility on Saturday. League sources were confident late Friday, though, that OKC was in a strong position with Gay, especially after the Paul George trade.

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Thomas Vu
07-01-2017, 08:39 PM
Is that a herman miller aeron chair?

OKCRT
07-01-2017, 08:52 PM
Presti went into a tirade when he learned that Harden was staying out late and partying during the 2012 playoffs against Miami. We should have kept Livingston (who rehabed with the Thunder) instead of hanging on to Harden's partner in crime (Eric Maynor).

The two (Harden/Maynor) were like cockhounds sniffing out their next lap dance. Thank God Oklahoma did away with allowing strippers to go totally nude. Valley Brook would have a couple of high rises (no pun intended) and a police station comparable to OKC's.

Maybe OKC needs to reverse the stripper law to get some FAs to sign? Add a few nightclubs and get the party started. I mean that is what other cities have to offer these rich young guys.

sooner88
07-02-2017, 03:58 AM
I was scrolling through twitter and saw Griffin had signed his major contract, and then immediately saw a tweet that we had traded for PG. I thought that it was a Sportspickle tweet. Of all moves I thought we would make, this wasn't even on my radar. It was an absolutely genius move by Presti, and as usual he kept it out of the news until it happened. We needed to swing for the fences to convince Russ to stay, and this move is a great step in that direction. I don't think that we are done with our big moves, but as much as I would like to see Kanter traded I don't think that any team is willing to give us something worthwhile. Gay is the only pickup that I could imagine that would make us lose Enes, but Achilles recovery is incredibly difficult and I would be surprised to see Presti take a risk on him unless it's for pennies on the dollar. Presti has received some flack over the past few years, but this magician move proves why he is one of the most sought after GMs in the NBA.

Laramie
07-02-2017, 10:26 AM
Maybe OKC needs to reverse the stripper law to get some FAs to sign? Add a few nightclubs and get the party started. I mean that is what other cities have to offer these rich young guys.

We do need to address & continue to improve the night life options for younger professionals. Bricktown Entertainment District does provide a great atmosphere that our city lacked for many years. We do need to expand that area.

Laramie
07-11-2017, 08:03 PM
If Westbrook & George can co-exist; along with the new additions (Patterson & Felton) will help spread the floor which opens more room for Adams, Kanter & Roberson to operate underneath the basket. Thunder 3-point shooters Abrines & McDermott should be in a position to elevate their game.

Donovan will have two years of NBA experience under his belt. Drafted at #21 Ferguson does have experience; something that has been our Archilles heel. He shouldn't have a problem adjusting to the NBA game.

Teo9969
07-11-2017, 08:55 PM
If Westbrook & George can co-exist; along with the new additions (Patterson & Felton) will help spread the floor which opens more room for Adams, Kanter & Roberson to operate underneath the basket. Thunder 3-point shooters Abrines & McDermott should be in a position to elevate their game.

Donovan will have two years of NBA experience under his belt. Drafted at #21 Ferguson does have experience; something that has been our Archilles heel. He shouldn't have a problem adjusting to the NBA game.

Everyone has a problem adjusting to the highest level in any given sport. There are maybe a total of 5-10 athletes a year who reach the MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL, Champions League that transition relatively seamlessly into that top level of competition. Some years there are 5 in 1 sport, and many years there are no more than 1.

So Ferguson may prove to contribute at an acceptable level as long as our expectations are based in reality. Those who keep saying because he's played in a professional league he is somehow "more ready" than players coming from college: that "more ready" is not going to amount to a whole lot in his first year in the NBA. What Ferguson is not, is one of those 5-10 athletes who enter the big leagues and exceed moderate to high expectations.

I will happily eat crow, but he will get pulled out of games because he doesn't adjust quickly enough.

dankrutka
07-12-2017, 12:56 AM
As Laramie said, Paul George is going to help other players. There should be not only more open shots for Abrines/McDermotte/Grant, but also more space for Roberson (who should be around the basket more instead of camped out on the three point line) and Adams. I have a feeling the space will result in a lot more Adams pick and rolls that disappeared last season.