View Full Version : Millions of Oklahoma revenue potentially lost



Jersey Boss
05-10-2017, 09:45 AM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state/office-space-reallocation-could-cost-oklahoma-taxpayers-millions-attorney-says/article_a4277da8-a566-5c5c-99a2-8d9b40529926.html

Good looking out from the so called decision makers.

traxx
05-10-2017, 01:22 PM
The Office of Management and Enterprise Services wants the space so it can consolidate some of its own operations there.

OMES Director Preston Doerflinger's office has the authority to direct other state agencies to move because it manages the leasing of office space as one of its many duties.

I guess OMES is supposed to be one of those catch-all agencies that does a lot of things, but none of them well. I know the state agencies IT departments were consolidated to OMES a few years back and I don't believe that's worked out too well. From what I hear, OMES is in a disarray. Yet they're forcing other agencies to move so they can take their space for themselves.

StuckInTheCapitol825
05-10-2017, 02:59 PM
I guess OMES is supposed to be one of those catch-all agencies that does a lot of things, but none of them well. I know the state agencies IT departments were consolidated to OMES a few years back and I don't believe that's worked out too well. From what I hear, OMES is in a disarray. Yet they're forcing other agencies to move so they can take their space for themselves.

The construction in the capitol has started in the area that OMES occupies. Half of their area has been demolished already.
But the skeptic in me says that there is something up as OMES has always seemed to do things and then tell people to deal with it.

Laramie
05-10-2017, 04:13 PM
Room for growth; time to expand:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51rlQ-W7QcL._SX466_.jpg
Remembered--Will Rogers & Sequoyah Buildings from the 70s on the capitol grounds; they were beautiful architectural structured for the times. Recall a field trip in which these buildings were said to be the future of growth for the Oklahoma State Capitol complex for the next 25 years (1990s).


https://media.atre.yardi.com/2/18122/images/tower.jpg?w=203&h=300

There's plenty of room on the state capitol grounds for Oklahoma to centralize many of its operations on that complex. Invest in a large 15-20 story office building to house the growth needs for government operations to be centralized.

Bunty
05-10-2017, 04:27 PM
Room for growth; time to expand:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51rlQ-W7QcL._SX466_.jpg
Remembered--Will Rogers & Sequoyah Buildings from the 70s on the capitol grounds; they were beautiful architectural structured for the times. Recall a field trip in which these buildings were said to be the future of growth for the Oklahoma State Capitol complex for the next 25 years (1990s).


https://media.atre.yardi.com/2/18122/images/tower.jpg?w=203&h=300

There's plenty of room on the state capitol grounds for Oklahoma to centralize many of its operations on that complex. Invest in a large 15-20 story office building to house the growth needs for government operations to be centralized.
Dream on. I can't see the ideology of Oklahoma Republicans allowing the expansion of state government with a large office tower.

Bunty
05-10-2017, 04:29 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state/office-space-reallocation-could-cost-oklahoma-taxpayers-millions-attorney-says/article_a4277da8-a566-5c5c-99a2-8d9b40529926.html

Good looking out from the so called decision makers.
It should be good to them. Their ideology or idiocy says the less and less state tax revenues, the more and more the state will thrive.

2Lanez
05-11-2017, 09:29 AM
Dream on. I can't see the ideology of Oklahoma Republicans allowing the expansion of state government with a large office tower.

Clearly you're not familiar with Scott Pruitt. Doesn't appear that our Republican leadership has any problem with spending money when the money is spent on them. http://newsok.com/article/5460528

Midtowner
05-12-2017, 03:38 PM
Dream on. I can't see the ideology of Oklahoma Republicans allowing the expansion of state government with a large office tower.

Clearly you haven't driven down Lincoln lately. Just about every state agency is sporting a shiny new office building--something which was needed because most were declining and needed major work.

Bunty
05-12-2017, 04:33 PM
Clearly you haven't driven down Lincoln lately. Just about every state agency is sporting a shiny new office building--something which was needed because most were declining and needed major work.

They borrowed the money to finance the projects, I guess. It's not tax and spend. It's just borrowing.

Jersey Boss
05-12-2017, 06:54 PM
Whats troubling is the continuing ineptitude of the leadership of this state. Fallin appointed this guy to the cabinet as finance secretary and his degree has nada to do with finance or economics. His degree is a Bachelors in organizational leadership from Southern Nazarene University. He has a history of poor choices that are reflected in the court dockets. From driving under suspension multiple times to a OKC muni charge of being drunk while in actual physical control.

While wanting to cut credits for the wind industry citing austerity, he does the exact opposite for his agency.

Preston Doerflinger, the governor's secretary of finance, approved pay increases for more than 400 of the 1,327 employees and new hires in the office he oversees last year. During the same time period, he was warning state agencies they needed to be frugal because state revenues were dropping. Eighty-four of Doerflinger's employees received pay increases of 20 percent or more. For 75 employees, that meant annual raises of at least $10,000. (http://newsok.com/article/5477363)

He is spending money like a sailor on shore leave and proposing to put the state on the hook for millions. Can you say arrogant?

Swake
05-12-2017, 07:29 PM
Whats troubling is the continuing ineptitude of the leadership of this state. Fallin appointed this guy to the cabinet as finance secretary and his degree has nada to do with finance or economics. His degree is a Bachelors in organizational leadership from Southern Nazarene University. He has a history of poor choices that are reflected in the court dockets. From driving under suspension multiple times to a OKC muni charge of being drunk while in actual physical control.
While wanting to cut credits for the wind industry citing austerity, he does the exact opposite for his agency.

Preston Doerflinger, the governor's secretary of finance, approved pay increases for more than 400 of the 1,327 employees and new hires in the office he oversees last year. During the same time period, he was warning state agencies they needed to be frugal because state revenues were dropping. Eighty-four of Doerflinger's employees received pay increases of 20 percent or more. For 75 employees, that meant annual raises of at least $10,000. (http://newsok.com/article/5477363)

He is spending money like a sailor on shore leave and proposing to put the state on the hook for millions. Can you say arrogant?

Online degree from SNU. It's crap.

pw405
06-05-2017, 10:37 PM
Room for growth; time to expand:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51rlQ-W7QcL._SX466_.jpg
Remembered--Will Rogers & Sequoyah Buildings from the 70s on the capitol grounds; they were beautiful architectural structured for the times. Recall a field trip in which these buildings were said to be the future of growth for the Oklahoma State Capitol complex for the next 25 years (1990s).


https://media.atre.yardi.com/2/18122/images/tower.jpg?w=203&h=300

There's plenty of room on the state capitol grounds for Oklahoma to centralize many of its operations on that complex. Invest in a large 15-20 story office building to house the growth needs for government operations to be centralized.

Laramie, thank you for providing insight and history about our state & city. I always appreciate your contributions!

pw405
06-19-2017, 07:44 PM
Also - had a "friend" who worked at OMES for about 6 months. Claimed he never once actually did any work. He was eventually fired when they found out he actually had no skills related to the job. Still, 6 months...

BLJR
06-20-2017, 07:30 AM
Also - had a "friend" who worked at OMES for about 6 months. Claimed he never once actually did any work. He was eventually fired when they found out he actually had no skills related to the job. Still, 6 months...

Didn't George on Sienfeld have a job like that? Your "friend" can now put that experience on his resume as well now!!!

Bunty
06-23-2017, 01:15 AM
Whats troubling is the continuing ineptitude of the leadership of this state. Fallin appointed this guy to the cabinet as finance secretary and his degree has nada to do with finance or economics. His degree is a Bachelors in organizational leadership from Southern Nazarene University. He has a history of poor choices that are reflected in the court dockets. From driving under suspension multiple times to a OKC muni charge of being drunk while in actual physical control.

While wanting to cut credits for the wind industry citing austerity, he does the exact opposite for his agency.

Preston Doerflinger, the governor's secretary of finance, approved pay increases for more than 400 of the 1,327 employees and new hires in the office he oversees last year. During the same time period, he was warning state agencies they needed to be frugal because state revenues were dropping. Eighty-four of Doerflinger's employees received pay increases of 20 percent or more. For 75 employees, that meant annual raises of at least $10,000. (http://newsok.com/article/5477363)

He is spending money like a sailor on shore leave and proposing to put the state on the hook for millions. Can you say arrogant?

If well qualified, high quality people with integrity don't want to run for office to help run the state, that's just tough. Considering how bad of a reputation politics has, I'm not surprised if that is a common reason why such fine people won't run.