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AP
05-20-2015, 01:21 PM
I'm in need of a couple of suits in the near future and was wondering if anybody has advice or comments about best quality for price or anything like that.

I've frequently seen the Jos A Bank ads that are buy 1 get 3 free. Is the quality acceptable or should I just pony up and look for nicer suits?

Any advice?

Urbanized
05-20-2015, 01:25 PM
I really like Pinpoint Resource in 50 Penn. It's not the cheapest place in town (quite a few high-quality offerings), but also not super expensive. Plus, Chris always starts throwing stuff (ties, dress shirts...) in like crazy to put deals and outfits together.

okatty
05-20-2015, 01:35 PM
Teena Hicks downtown is very nice or Alltons in Edmond. Have good experience with both. Not cheap but nice stuff. Tell Teena you need a deal and she will work with you a little bit.

FighttheGoodFight
05-20-2015, 01:39 PM
I would steer clear of Men's Warehouse and Jos A Bank (same company now I believe). The suits are of pretty low quality all around. I have a slim disposition and finding a new suit was hard. I ended up waiting to get one from Macy's Bar III line. It was inexpensive and is a decent suit. I also own a thompson suit from JCrew that I ordered. A bit more expensive but also slim fit and nice.

Honestly suits that cost more usually do for a reason. If you can go somewhere local and get fitted. It's all about the tailoring. Pinpoint Resource is a good option as well as Ambassador Shop on Memorial by the turnpike.

zookeeper
05-20-2015, 01:57 PM
This is very anecdotal, but I hear and read it a lot. If you absolutely have to go with the lower end suit, forget Men's Wearhouse and Jos. A. Bank (which as fightthegoodfight mentioned is the same company now). You get a much better quality suit with the J.C. Penney Stafford Executive line of suits. If you get one of these suits, build in the extra to take it to a good tailor. You'll pay about the same as MW or JAB and have a higher quality suit.

OKCretro
05-20-2015, 02:01 PM
I have bought stuff from spencer stone which like, but I also buy from Men's Warehouse. They had some good slim fit calvin Klein suits on sale that I really liked. Same suit was at Macy's for1/3 more of the price. But I like my suits probably extra slim so that is why I stay away from most suit shops, because they usually just have traditional suits with pleats and are super baggy.

positano
05-20-2015, 02:03 PM
Teena Hicks downtown is very nice or Alltons in Edmond. Have good experience with both. Not cheap but nice stuff. Tell Teena you need a deal and she will work with you a little bit.

Most definitely agree. You will find that a good quality suit will last far longer (and you will get a far better return) than suits from bottom-tier clothing stores. Also, Men's Wearhouse, etc., will tell you they carry the same brands (Hickey Freemen, etc.). Those are NOT the same suits. Many high end manufacturers make lower quality suits specifically for those markets - they are not the same as you will find in Teena's or Altons. Teena is also very good at helping you find versatile suits that can serve a variety of needs.

Both places can get you in a suit for a reasonable price that is well worth the quality.

And whatever you do, don't take them to the cleaners....

bradh
05-20-2015, 02:43 PM
someone here posted recently about a clothes service based out of OKC, and I can't for the life of me remember it, but might be a good help for you

sooner88
05-20-2015, 02:56 PM
I'll echo what everyone here is saying, but steer clear from jobs a bank's or men's warehouse. On the higher end you can either get an off the rack suit from Spencer Stone or have him custom fit you... you also get to pick everything about the suit (fabric, lapel, buttons, etc.). There are also websites like J Kilburn where they come measure you at home, you pick the fabric, etc and then send it off to you.... I had someone measure, but never ordered a suit so I can't speak to the quality. I have a J. Crew Ludlow suit that is very nice for the price.

Since I wear a suit everyday it is nice to have multiple, cheap options as well. I have found a lot of luck at Nordstram Rack where you can sometimes find a much higher quality suit than say a Jos A Bank for the same price.... You just have to be willing to take some time. A tailor can make a cheap suit look 100x better also. I've mainly used Helena on May Ave.

OKCretro
05-20-2015, 02:59 PM
Most definitely agree. You will find that a good quality suit will last far longer (and you will get a far better return) than suits from bottom-tier clothing stores. Also, Men's Wearhouse, etc., will tell you they carry the same brands (Hickey Freemen, etc.). Those are NOT the same suits. Many high end manufacturers make lower quality suits specifically for those markets - they are not the same as you will find in Teena's or Altons. Teena is also very good at helping you find versatile suits that can serve a variety of needs.

Both places can get you in a suit for a reasonable price that is well worth the quality.

And whatever you do, don't take them to the cleaners....


Yes while the suits at mens warehouse might be a lower quality (like what a lot of retail stores do at outlet shops) its not the same quality, but I guess I look at this way, unless you wear the suit everyday and have stayed the same weight for a number of years no need investing in a $2500 suit. I bought a bunch of fancy suits about 5 years ago, then lost about 25 pounds, so now they look like clown suits on me so I cant wear them. (Goodwill thanked me for them) Plus I think the style of suit changes every few years so no need to spend $5K on a couple of expensive suits that might be out of style in 3 years anyway or two sizes too big or too small when you could buy 3 decent suits for $1500 then in 3 years buy 3 more.

hoya
05-20-2015, 03:01 PM
I really like Pinpoint Resource in 50 Penn. It's not the cheapest place in town (quite a few high-quality offerings), but also not super expensive. Plus, Chris always starts throwing stuff (ties, dress shirts...) in like crazy to put deals and outfits together.

Yeah Chris is a good guy. He's quite the salesman. You'll go in wanting to buy one suit and come out with three. But it's a good place.

Jeepnokc
05-20-2015, 06:07 PM
Teena Hicks downtown. Her off the rack suits are decent but she is very reasonable on custom made and custom ordered suits. I usually purchase nice starter suits for my interns as a graduation gift.

Chadanth
05-20-2015, 06:27 PM
This really depends on your budget and how often you need to wear them. Better suits last longer and hold up better, and a plain navy or charcoal 2 button suit never really goes out of style. I usually have my best luck at Saks off fifth when they do 2 for one, they have Hickey Freeman and they're great suits. In general, I'd say to stay away from Jos Bank and men's wearhouse because their products are mediocre and they are terrible at fitting you.

What is your budget, what are they for, and how often will you wear them?

AP
05-21-2015, 07:11 AM
I am in a position now that I will need to wear a suit for work, and I never have had to before. I have a couple suits currently, but really need to add to the collection.

Haven't really decided on a budget yet. Kinda why I was asking so that I could determine whether I should go for better quality or if they will wear out more quickly wearing them really often, should I settle for lower quality.

positano
05-21-2015, 07:22 AM
I am in a position now that I will need to wear a suit for work, and I never have had to before. I have a couple suits currently, but really need to add to the collection.

Haven't really decided on a budget yet. Kinda why I was asking so that I could determine whether I should go for better quality or if they will wear out more quickly wearing them really often, should I settle for lower quality.

IMO, the short answer is yes - a lower quality suit will wear out more quickly. You should be able to find a perfectly adequate, strong quality suit, well-tailored, for between $400 and $600 - particularly if you find one on sale. As several of us mentioned, if you go to a place like Teena Hicks or Altons, be sure to give them a description of what you need (they would likely ask anyway). They can steer you towards suits that best meet your needs. Teena has talked me out of suits before that wouldn't have been very useful to me - and she was correct.

Chadanth
05-21-2015, 08:12 AM
I am in a position now that I will need to wear a suit for work, and I never have had to before. I have a couple suits currently, but really need to add to the collection.

Haven't really decided on a budget yet. Kinda why I was asking so that I could determine whether I should go for better quality or if they will wear out more quickly wearing them really often, should I settle for lower quality.

For the basics, as I mentioned, things like solid navy and charcoal, get quality. They don't go out of style and you can wear them for anything. If you wear suits frequently, start learning your measurements and sizes in different brands and shop online.

onthestrip
05-21-2015, 09:36 AM
Yes while the suits at mens warehouse might be a lower quality (like what a lot of retail stores do at outlet shops) its not the same quality, but I guess I look at this way, unless you wear the suit everyday and have stayed the same weight for a number of years no need investing in a $2500 suit. I bought a bunch of fancy suits about 5 years ago, then lost about 25 pounds, so now they look like clown suits on me so I cant wear them. (Goodwill thanked me for them) Plus I think the style of suit changes every few years so no need to spend $5K on a couple of expensive suits that might be out of style in 3 years anyway or two sizes too big or too small when you could buy 3 decent suits for $1500 then in 3 years buy 3 more.

I agree. With body changes and style changes I find it far better to buy a cheaper suit and if it happens to unravel, doesnt fit or goes out of style, you can simply buy another cheap suit. Ive had some from Jos A Banks and nothing appears "cheap" about them. Sure they arent a custom suit but for the money, its hard to beat. And Banks now offers a slim suit for a more modern look.

You can also find some good deals at Banana Republics or J Crews outlet store. Find a close fit and then pay a good tailor to alter if needed.

ChaseDweller
05-21-2015, 12:40 PM
If you don't mind mail order, JCrewFactory has nice suits and they are all on half price right now. I own several and while they aren't top end goods, for off the rack suits, they are pretty nice. Combatant Gentleman (combatgent.com) has nice goods, but stock can be dicey. I also see a lot of good reviews for Suit Supply, but I've never bought there. I was in the JCrew factory store (outlet mall) yesterday and they had a really nice blue wool for the mid $200s, but sizes were spotty. You could go there for fit and then mailorder. Good thing is if you mail order from JCF, you can make returns at the JCF store.

Stay clear of JABank, unless you can afford their signature gold line. Even then, you're overpaying unless you get them on serious sale.

TheTravellers
05-28-2015, 10:38 AM
I would steer clear of Men's Warehouse and Jos A Bank (same company now I believe). The suits are of pretty low quality all around. I have a slim disposition and finding a new suit was hard. I ended up waiting to get one from Macy's Bar III line. It was inexpensive and is a decent suit. I also own a thompson suit from JCrew that I ordered. A bit more expensive but also slim fit and nice.

Honestly suits that cost more usually do for a reason. If you can go somewhere local and get fitted. It's all about the tailoring. Pinpoint Resource is a good option as well as Ambassador Shop on Memorial by the turnpike.

I'll second Ambassador Shop - they mainly carry Tiglio, the attention and tailoring you get there is great, bought a suit and a few shirts/socks there. They're on the east side of Western, just north of Memorial.

OklahomaNick
05-28-2015, 10:54 AM
I buy all my dress clothes & suits at GQ Fashions on the NW corner of 23rd and I-44. They don't just carry the bright colored suits they have a room in the back that has really nice business suits. You can get a Ralph Lauren suit there for around $250 or $275 when they are $500 to $600 at Macys. Their markup at GQ is not high at all. The great thing about that store is you can get an inexpensive suit $99 or a really nice one. Their customer service is excellent as well. Go in and ask for Andy.

They also carry a lot of the same brands as the Ambassador and they will be cheaper.

d-usa
06-05-2015, 03:08 PM
Who do people recommend for just doing alterations? I have some pants that need to be adjusted a bit and I was looking for a tailor in north OKC.

sooner88
06-05-2015, 03:23 PM
Who do people recommend for just doing alterations? I have some pants that need to be adjusted a bit and I was looking for a tailor in north OKC.

Helena's on May and Grand is who I usually use. I've also used Voha's on May north of Britton... both are good.

pure
06-05-2015, 03:30 PM
Who do people recommend for just doing alterations? I have some pants that need to be adjusted a bit and I was looking for a tailor in north OKC.

If in Norman, go to Kim's. She does an excellent job and she does alterations for Stoops, Boren, and Switzer.

Chadanth
06-05-2015, 04:01 PM
Who do people recommend for just doing alterations? I have some pants that need to be adjusted a bit and I was looking for a tailor in north OKC.

The place on the NE corner of 122nd and N May is the best I've found.

Mel
06-05-2015, 07:12 PM
Too bad Tupperware does not still make Men's Leisure Wear and Suits. You can never go wrong with a polyester jump suit with wide cuffs, bell bottoms and big lapels.

d-usa
06-05-2015, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the replies.

progressiveboy
06-06-2015, 11:14 AM
When I lived in OKC, Mr. Ooleys was a great local option for suits. They had such great personalized service. Is it still open?

okatty
06-06-2015, 01:43 PM
When I lived in OKC, Mr. Ooleys was a great local option for suits. They had such great personalized service. Is it still open?

Yes. Penn Sq. I believe son of original owners owns it but could be wrong on that.

Chadanth
06-06-2015, 01:44 PM
When I lived in OKC, Mr. Ooleys was a great local option for suits. They had such great personalized service. Is it still open?

Still open, still a great shop.

mister_s
06-08-2015, 11:09 AM
I would check out Merritt West. It was started by a guy named Drew Dargen and he's local. Suits are 100% custom, made to measure, and it's great quality. Suits start at around 300 or 350. You aren't going to find anything better. Turn times are around 4 weeks after you make the order. You pay that much and you're going to look just as good, if not better, than something you would pay 1000+ for a Mr. Ooley's.

Merritt West Custom Menswear (http://www.merrittwest.com/)

Mike_M
06-09-2015, 10:21 AM
I wasn't sure if I should post because everyone seems to be focusing on higher quality shops. But if this is for work, or something that you'll be wearing regularly, I personally wouldn't be dropping $600 on italian customs. Even in an office, your clothes can get worn down, and I personally wouldn't want to have to be super careful with my clothes day in and day out. Plus if you're wearing that nice of suits for work, what would you wear for a special date, wedding, or night on the town?

I would actually hit a major retailer (I personally really like Kenneth Cole and Perry Ellis) Usually on holidays they sell full sets for about $150, throw in about $50-70 in tailoring and invest in some nice accessories (ties, cufflinks, etc...) and you can build yourself a nice wardrobe of work suits for less than a grand. And if they fall apart, you can just replace them an still spend less than a custom suit at a high end.

Tailoring is 10x more important than the suit itself. A well-tailored suit will stand up next to a poorly tailored suit for triple the price.

kevinpate
06-09-2015, 10:42 AM
Does either GQ Fashion or Merritt West also cater to folks who qualify as being in the realm of husky, fluffy or even day-um, or are they only for the thinnie mennies amongst us?


--- Thinking of breaking up with my current portly provider.

bchris02
06-09-2015, 01:27 PM
I have always bought my suits at Dillard's or Macy's and have been pleased.

SoonerDave
06-09-2015, 02:12 PM
I've bought suits and blazers at the "horrible" Men's Wearhouse and they've done just fine. I've actually lived to tell about it. I guess that makes me an outcast here, but I'm not dropping $2,500 on a suit. And MW has it's lower-tier and upper-tier varieties as well. It's just a *little* shortsighted to blow them off completely. In fact, I think you could make a good case for a lesser-expense suit at a place like MW if you're going to be wearing them on a daily basis and wearing them out.

I have bought a suit at Penny's back when they had older salesmen who knew how to fit a suit properly. Their Stafford line is very nice. Same goes for MW; they have a few guys there who aren't as sharp as they could be, but they also have guys who really know how to fit a suit and get it tailored correctly.

Just my $0.02. I'm sure the "right" clothiers sell excellent stuff, but this wholesale dismissal of MW as if each suit they sell is laden with cockroaches is a little over-the-top. If someone is *that* interested in my suit label, I'm sure something about the rest of me will be off-putting eventually anyway :)

FighttheGoodFight
06-09-2015, 03:12 PM
I've bought suits and blazers at the "horrible" Men's Wearhouse and they've done just fine. I've actually lived to tell about it. I guess that makes me an outcast here, but I'm not dropping $2,500 on a suit. And MW has it's lower-tier and upper-tier varieties as well. It's just a *little* shortsighted to blow them off completely. In fact, I think you could make a good case for a lesser-expense suit at a place like MW if you're going to be wearing them on a daily basis and wearing them out.

I have bought a suit at Penny's back when they had older salesmen who knew how to fit a suit properly. Their Stafford line is very nice. Same goes for MW; they have a few guys there who aren't as sharp as they could be, but they also have guys who really know how to fit a suit and get it tailored correctly.

Just my $0.02. I'm sure the "right" clothiers sell excellent stuff, but this wholesale dismissal of MW as if each suit they sell is laden with cockroaches is a little over-the-top. If someone is *that* interested in my suit label, I'm sure something about the rest of me will be off-putting eventually anyway :)

There are a few reasons people don't like MW. The salesmen there are a bit much. I went in to rent a tux for a wedding and got hounded.

The suits off the rack are made to be pretty boxy. You can tailor these of course.

The quality of the fabric is not great for the price. I know people can't spend $2,500 on a suit. I know I can't. I think it is worth my money to save a bit more and buy a better quality fabric that can be tailored to my size. A better quality fabric will last longer and wear better.

It just comes down to what you want to spend honestly. You can go into MW and spend 300 on a suit or get a fully tailored suit in better quality for 500 and support a local business.

Chadanth
06-09-2015, 04:17 PM
There are a few reasons people don't like MW. The salesmen there are a bit much. I went in to rent a tux for a wedding and got hounded.

The suits off the rack are made to be pretty boxy. You can tailor these of course.

The quality of the fabric is not great for the price. I know people can't spend $2,500 on a suit. I know I can't. I think it is worth my money to save a bit more and buy a better quality fabric that can be tailored to my size. A better quality fabric will last longer and wear better.

It just comes down to what you want to spend honestly. You can go into MW and spend 300 on a suit or get a fully tailored suit in better quality for 500 and support a local business.

This. I spend a little more on American made suits, which can still be found in the 4-600 range. That might be a bit much for people who would rarely wear one, so for them, yes, go find something less expensive that fits well.

ouimguy
06-11-2015, 02:20 PM
I have an appointment with Merritt West on Monday. I am looking forward to it. I am a bit on the large size and hope it goes well.

Chadanth
06-11-2015, 03:48 PM
I have an appointment with Merritt West on Monday. I am looking forward to it. I am a bit on the large size and hope it goes well.

Do you have any info on pricing there?

ouimguy
06-12-2015, 03:54 AM
I gave a budget number of 500 and he was positive that we would be under that amount. But I'm sure the style and materials will play a role in pricing. I am not a suit wearer by any means, I have a wedding that I need this for, but for a good fitting summer suit made for me, hopefully will be worth the money.

ouimguy
06-15-2015, 07:23 PM
I just was fitted for my suit with Merritt West. Drew was really good to work with. I can't believe that I am excited about getting my suit. Less than 400 for my suit and a shirt..