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Plutonic Panda
12-29-2014, 10:25 PM
Oklahoma to increase wind-generated power - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/27722329/oklahoma-to-increase-wind-generated-power)

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 01:38 AM
Now I am not a big wind energy supporter except for smaller scale projects, but why on earth would not want wind turbines near schools and hospitals? Again, I'm a wind energy supporter but this is dumb.

Oklahoma bill puts siting restrictions and reporting requirements on wind farms | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-bill-puts-siting-restrictions-and-reporting-requirements-on-wind-farms/article/5406313)

ctchandler
04-02-2015, 10:04 AM
Now I am not a big wind energy supporter except for smaller scale projects, but why on earth would not want wind turbines near schools and hospitals? Again, I'm a wind energy supporter but this is dumb.

Oklahoma bill puts siting restrictions and reporting requirements on wind farms | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-bill-puts-siting-restrictions-and-reporting-requirements-on-wind-farms/article/5406313)

PluPan,
Just a guess, but most hospitals have helicopters, so why put an obstacle in their way? And actually, 9,100 feet doesn't exactly cramp anybody's style. As for schools, I'm not sure why, if I get time I will research it.
C. T.

jerrywall
04-02-2015, 11:02 AM
It's about safety. Turbines fall, there are fires, pieces can fall off, ice can build up and fall off, etc. There are secondary issues with schools, such as distraction issues, potential health issues due to noise, etc.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 01:44 PM
PluPan,
Just a guess, but most hospitals have helicopters, so why put an obstacle in their way? And actually, 9,100 feet doesn't exactly cramp anybody's style. As for schools, I'm not sure why, if I get time I will research it.
C. T.That's true. I didn't think about that.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 01:44 PM
It's about safety. Turbines fall, there are fires, pieces can fall off, ice can build up and fall off, etc. There are secondary issues with schools, such as distraction issues, potential health issues due to noise, etc.Do you know how big of a risk that is? I don't keep up with energy much, so I honestly don't know.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 01:47 PM
It'd be nice if wind farms were done away with entirely.

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I think wind energy has its place for small remote farms and towns, but solar and wind energy take up too much land use as it is. Instead of building solar farms, we should have them on every rooftop.

jerrywall
04-02-2015, 01:51 PM
Do you know how big of a risk that is? I don't keep up with energy much, so I honestly don't know.

I don't know, percentage wise. I know it happens thought. There was an article on Forbes a couple years ago talking about it.

Forget Eagle Deaths, Wind Turbines Kill Humans - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2013/09/29/forget-eagle-deaths-wind-turbines-kill-humans/)

The industry consensus seems to be that a mile is a safe setback, and I think where schools are involved, better safe than sorry. If these limitations somehow restricted or limited the growth of the wind industry it would be one thing, but there's not shortage of land in the US that can accommodate wind turbines and be a safe distance from schools and people.

Dubya61
04-02-2015, 02:45 PM
It'd be nice if wind farms were done away with entirely.

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I think wind energy has its place for small remote farms and towns, but solar and wind energy take up too much land use as it is. Instead of building solar farms, we should have them on every rooftop.

IIRC, wind farms are NOT the only use of the land they're on and all those hockey teams can still use their ice rinks. Plus, you don't have to bury an expended windmill in a cement box when you're done with it. I think it is very wise to continue to push for EVERY type of energy known (esp the renewable ones). None of them can remove us from reliance on fossil fuels alone, but together, they can make it so we use the right energy for the right purpose. Imagine if we all had solar panels and micro wind generators on our roofs and geothermal recircs in our yards. How very Canadian, BTW, to use the hockey rink as the familiar unit of land measure, eh? I think I'm gonna go hug a tree, now.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 03:00 PM
IIRC, wind farms are NOT the only use of the land they're on and all those hockey teams can still use their ice rinks. Plus, you don't have to bury an expended windmill in a cement box when you're done with it. I think it is very wise to continue to push for EVERY type of energy known (esp the renewable ones). None of them can remove us from reliance on fossil fuels alone, but together, they can make it so we use the right energy for the right purpose. Imagine if we all had solar panels and micro wind generators on our roofs and geothermal recircs in our yards. How very Canadian, BTW, to use the hockey rink as the familiar unit of land measure, eh? I think I'm gonna go hug a tree, now.How do you think windmills are built? The metal it takes to build them has byproducts don't kid yourself. There are uses for nuclear waste. Not all of it gets buried.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 03:23 PM
Right now, that is a problem. But as we progress and innovate, new solutions will be unveiled.

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What can be done with nuclear waste? - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/what-can-be-done-with-nuclear-waste/2011/03/19/ABGFGNy_graphic.html)

I think there should be two primary sources of energy, solar(which comes from nuclear), and nuclear. Eventually fusion will be perfected and that should be the primary source of energy.

I don't buy into the "we need to to utilize 20 different forms of energy" when two can do it right.

Plutonic Panda
04-02-2015, 03:26 PM
Then there is this


Others are working on ways to convert nuclear waste into less-harmful materials using a process called transmutation. But that technology, which would attempt to accelerate particles into the atoms of radioactive material, remains unfeasible.

The best solution, most agree, is to contain nuclear waste deep in the ground. The logic is this: containers underground are like submarines in deep water. As a boat on the water's surface is tossed around by stormy waves, a submarine is barely disturbed. Likewise, nuclear waste underground is less likely to be disturbed and then leak.

But, as many scientists point out, there are factors such as volcanoes and earthquakes that could disrupt even deep underground holdings.

- Nuclear Waste: Do We Know What to Do With It? - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98555)

Everything is recycled.

Even the horrible, awful oil is recycled back to the earth in one form or another. The same goes for nuclear energy. We are no way shape or form running out of space for spent fuel and won't be for thousands of years and it's even more likely we will never reach that point.

Plutonic Panda
04-03-2015, 04:39 PM
I'm going to try and put together a plan for wind and solar requirements I think should be in place for Oklahoma.

Basically it would revolve around two key factors, using wind energy on a small scale for remote towns and farms and a law requiring every rooftop to either be solar or green. A friend on Facebook shared a picture of what I have been hoping for years we'd do here.