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Garin
04-02-2014, 04:22 PM
Why can soldiers not carry guns? Multiple injuries and suspect still at large.
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elitespy
04-02-2014, 04:23 PM
Reports of a Shooting on Fort Hood - kcentv.com - KCEN HD - Waco, Temple, and Killeen (http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood)


This is my home town, dad retired there and I grew up in Killeen. Hope everybody down there stays safe.

elitespy
04-02-2014, 04:30 PM
Live coverage

Reports of a Shooting on Fort Hood - kcentv.com - KCEN HD - Waco, Temple, and Killeen (http://www.kcentv.com/story/25146842/reports-of-shooting-on-fort-hood)

Just linked to the same site, I'm an idiot.

Achilleslastand
04-02-2014, 04:32 PM
Why can soldiers not carry guns? Multiple injuries and suspect still at large.
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Perhaps Bill Clinton can chime in and answer your question as to why they are gun free zones.
Anyhoos....

Hoping said shooter/shooters leave in a body bag.....

kelroy55
04-02-2014, 04:50 PM
Perhaps Bill Clinton can chime in and answer your question as to why they are gun free zones.
Anyhoos....

Hoping said shooter/shooters leave in a body bag.....

I found this showing it wasn't Clinton

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114748/navy-yard-shooting-clinton-blamed-bush-era-military-gun-order

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/09/17/the-growing-myth-of-mass-shootings-and-gun-free/195927

elitespy
04-02-2014, 04:55 PM
Perhaps you should get your facts right...

You're referring to Army Regulation 190-14 by the Department of the Army. If you had taken the care to actually read that 14-page document, it would have realized that the impetus for the Army regulation was, in turn, Department of Defense directive 5210.56, which was issued on February 25, 1992, and was considered "effective immediately" for the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Clinton, of course, did not take office until January 20, 1993.

http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r190_14.pdf

How about let's not turn this into a politics circle jerk and keep it related to what is going on. There are people injured and one reported dead, lets think about the peoples families if this is true.

kelroy55
04-02-2014, 04:58 PM
How about let's not turn this into a politics circle jerk and keep it related to what is going on. There are people injured and one reported dead, lets think about the peoples families if this is true.

You're right.... My thoughts and prayers to the families of those killed and wounded.

PennyQuilts
04-02-2014, 05:05 PM
Hard to believe someone would hit there after the previous shooting. I hope anyone who is hurt isn't badly hurt and recovers, fully. Hope the situation is resolved swiftly.

Chadanth
04-02-2014, 05:06 PM
Why can soldiers not carry guns? Multiple injuries and suspect still at large.
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Have you ever live in barracks? Supervised junior enlisted on post? Pulled CQB duty? I have. Letting joes have guns on base 24/7 is a bad idea. Sorry man.

RadicalModerate
04-02-2014, 05:31 PM
Peihaps the army needs to reset the Incoming filter to a different level?

Chadanth
04-02-2014, 05:40 PM
Peihaps the army needs to reset the Incoming filter to a different level?

Well, it's what you get with 17-25 year old kids with little supervision and ample alcohol (in the barracks).

RadicalModerate
04-02-2014, 05:41 PM
Well, it's what you get with 17-25 year old kids with little supervision and ample alcohol (in the barracks).

I wouldn't know. But thanx fer the info.

Garin
04-02-2014, 06:32 PM
I wouldn't know. But thanx fer the info.

The last shooter wasn't 17-25 though, I hadn't heard about this shooter though.

Garin
04-02-2014, 06:33 PM
Shooting at Fort Hood; Multiple Injuries (UPDATE: Shooter Reportedly Dead) | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/02/report-shooting-at-fort-hood/)

Prunepicker
04-02-2014, 07:50 PM
Perhaps Bill Clinton can chime in and answer your question as to why they
are gun free zones.
Anyhoos...
I still don't understand the need for gun free zones. They become the biggest
and easiest targets.

Maybe we should forget being touch feely and start being reasonable.

Chadanth
04-02-2014, 08:36 PM
The last shooter wasn't 17-25 though, I hadn't heard about this shooter though.

I'm not referring to a specific incident, just that it was a daily event to have fights or alcohol-related incidents in the barracks. Maybe arming troops daily would prevent the big stuff, but then you have more small-scale daily incidents involving violence. We had enough problems without guns.

Just the facts
04-02-2014, 09:05 PM
Perhaps the army needs to reset the Incoming filter to a different level?

When I went to basic training in 1990 I was surprised at the number of people who were sent there by a judge. Needless to say, there were problems that didn't seem to check themselves at the door. But hey, what can I say; we need oil.

kelroy55
04-03-2014, 10:32 AM
1990? Wow, you're just a pup lol

Chadanth
04-03-2014, 10:35 AM
When I went to basic training in 1990 I was surprised at the number of people who were sent there by a judge. Needless to say, there were problems that didn't seem to check themselves at the door. But hey, what can I say; we need oil.

They've done away with the army or jail option, but it's still a cross-section of society. I had junior enlisted in my unit that had masters degrees and some that probably would have been dead from drugs without the army. All kinds.

Dennis Heaton
04-03-2014, 10:45 AM
Have you ever live in barracks? Supervised junior enlisted on post? Pulled CQB duty? I have. Letting joes have guns on base 24/7 is a bad idea. Sorry man.

The majority of shootings that have occurred on Military Installations over the years have taken place in Military Housing, and usually of a domestic nature.

Chadanth
04-03-2014, 11:06 AM
The majority of shootings that have occurred on Military Installations over the years have taken place in Military Housing, and usually of a domestic nature.

Yes, you can have personally owned weapons in housing. Not in barracks. The majority of drug and alcohol-related incidents, at least on my post, were in the barracks though.

Dennis Heaton
04-03-2014, 11:31 AM
Yes, you can have personally owned weapons in housing. Not in barracks. The majority of drug and alcohol-related incidents, at least on my post, were in the barracks though.

You are 100% correct about that. It was the same way at every AF Base I was stationed at...and overseas was the worse for drug and alcohol-related incidents.

RadicalModerate
04-03-2014, 06:30 PM
I still don't understand the need for gun free zones. They become the biggest
and easiest targets.

Maybe we should forget being touch feely and start being reasonable.

The Ultimate Irony: A Gun Free Army Base.
(sort of reminds me of that old song about Woodstock by Joni Mitchell that was covered by CSN&Y)
Still . . . one must admit that A Gun Free Army Base is better than A Free Gun Army Base (with a bunch of loose cannons rolling around).
Sorry . . . The cannons would be more Navy Based. Like on a ship . . . A ship like . . . The USS State of Mind.