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Dustin
03-12-2014, 05:11 PM
It will be America's largest single family home.

http://kwtv.videodownload.worldnow.com/KWTV_20140312184607740AA.mp4

Printed story: http://www.news9.com/story/24959146/edmond-mega-mansion-could-become-largest-home-in-us

http://kwtv.images.worldnow.com/images/24959146_BG1.jpg

Pete
03-12-2014, 05:15 PM
Complete with drawbridge... Good grief.


Can you imagine just what it would take to heat and cool that much space in Oklahoma?

Carbon footprint the size of a million yetis.

dmoor82
03-12-2014, 05:18 PM
Just saw this story on Facebook, who will be the owner?

Dustin
03-12-2014, 05:19 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd say this thing is gonna cost anywhere from 15-25 million.

Dustin
03-12-2014, 05:20 PM
Just saw this story on Facebook, who will be the owner?

"The City of Edmond says the home is the idea of David Frayer, the owner of the Key Auto Group."

Stew
03-12-2014, 05:21 PM
Now the one question I have, is David Frayer the "guru" on The Key Auto Commercials or is he the guy who hired the guy playing the guru. Either way who knew the Key was doing so well.

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2014, 05:27 PM
Take that Dallas

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2014, 05:28 PM
Dallas may have bigger highways, but they don't have bigger houses.

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2014, 05:28 PM
We just outsized Texas, not everything is bigger in Texas. See, I can bash Texas to

bchris02
03-12-2014, 05:35 PM
Wow this thing looks absolutely amazing. Hopefully they have an open house before it gets completed. I want to see the inside just once.

Bunty
03-12-2014, 05:36 PM
Complete with drawbridge... Good grief.


Can you imagine just what it would take to heat and cool that much space in Oklahoma?

Carbon footprint the size of a million yetis.

Yes, I wonder how high the highest ceiling will be.

Paseofreak
03-12-2014, 05:43 PM
Gawd! That thing is hideous and won't relate visually to anything at all. Not to mention the egregiously conspicious consumption.

AP
03-12-2014, 06:19 PM
Wow this thing looks absolutely amazing. Hopefully they have an open house before it gets completed. I want to see the inside just once.

I never would have guessed that you would like this. Thought it would totally go against everything you're about.

bchris02
03-12-2014, 06:22 PM
I never would have guessed that you would like this. Thought it would totally go against everything you're about.

Why do you say that?

venture
03-12-2014, 06:29 PM
Pretty cool and if I had the cash I would probably go a little crazy, but probably not to this extreme when it comes to waste of space. That is unless I had a bunch of people living with us.

Hopefully they'll make it tornado, earthquake, wind, and hail proof. Would probably ruin someone's day if one of the towers got knocked over.

Easy180
03-12-2014, 06:39 PM
Completely necessary

Dustin
03-12-2014, 06:39 PM
Pretty cool and if I had the cash I would probably go a little crazy, but probably not to this extreme when it comes to waste of space. That is unless I had a bunch of people living with us.

Hopefully they'll make it tornado, earthquake, wind, and hail proof. Would probably ruin someone's day if one of the towers got knocked over.

If I had beaucoup amount of money, I would keep my home relatively small and just splurge on cars, trips, and menial treasures! :P

Martin
03-12-2014, 06:46 PM
according to the county assessor the old wal mart in moore, last occupied by convergys, is 87,350 square feet... let that sink in for a second. -M

AP
03-12-2014, 06:47 PM
Why do you say that?

I was kind of kidding. If I would have had to guess the two people on this board that would like this the most, I would have picked you and PluPan.

Garin
03-12-2014, 07:20 PM
I wonder who contacted the news about this.

bluedogok
03-12-2014, 07:49 PM
We just outsized Texas, not everything is bigger in Texas. See, I can bash Texas to
It maybe bigger but there are more expensive (when including land), when I was in Austin we had a "virtual contracting" project where we were modeling a house being built right by the 360 Bridge on Lake Austin. The contractor hired us to figure out the design from the plans using Revit and Navisworks. They bought the land for around 26 million (it sits "below" Michael Dell's house across 2222) and it included a 3,000 sf house up near 2222. The house was designed by some big architect in California and very modern, the house and garage were supposed to be in the 30 million range. The garage had a turntable in it and was rather large itself. The artwork in the home was to be worth more than the house and land. It was just one of their many houses.

It shows up still being under construction on Google Earth just east of the 360 bridge.

I think that house in Edmond is hideous, way too much kitschy crap on it for my liking. My wife said it reminded her of the WinStar casino near Thackerville with all the different facades.

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2014, 07:52 PM
It maybe bigger but there are more expensive (when including land), when I was in Austin we had a "virtual contracting" project where we were modeling a house being built right by the 360 Bridge on Lake Austin. The contractor hired us to figure out the design from the plans using Revit and Navisworks. They bought the land for around 26 million (it sits "below" Michael Dell's house across 2222) and it included a 3,000 sf house up near 2222. The house was designed by some big architect in California and very modern, the house and garage were supposed to be in the 30 million range. The garage had a turntable in it and was rather large itself. The artwork in the home was to be worth more than the house and land. It was just one of their many houses.

It shows up still being under construction on Google Earth just east of the 360 bridge.

I think that house in Edmond is hideous, way too much kitschy crap on it for my liking. My wife said it reminded her of the WinStar casino near Thackerville with all the different facades.I think it is pretty. I also thought how much this house would cost in a city like Austin, Miami, L.A., San Fran or some other huge city with high land costs.

Rom
03-12-2014, 08:28 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd say this thing is gonna cost anywhere from 15-25 million.

You need to triple or quadruple your highest number.

Plutonic Panda
03-12-2014, 08:31 PM
I honestly was thinking 50+million.

mugofbeer
03-12-2014, 09:44 PM
Utterly and outrageously obscene. What good could be done with the money rather than building that monstrosity.

Richard at Remax
03-12-2014, 09:50 PM
If it doesn't have a moat it's not worth it

CuatrodeMayo
03-12-2014, 10:09 PM
25 mil puts it at $270/square foot.

Bunty
03-12-2014, 10:10 PM
List of largest houses in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_houses_in_the_United_States)

This 90,000 sq ft. house, well along in construction, is also remarkable. Some people may find it hideous looking, too. Versailles in Florida: Construction Resumes on Biggest House in US - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2013/10/versailles-in-florida-construction-resumes-on-biggest-house-in-us/)

AP
03-12-2014, 10:17 PM
List of largest houses in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_houses_in_the_United_States)

This 90,000 sq ft. house, well along in construction, is also remarkable. Some people may find it hideous looking, too. Versailles in Florida: Construction Resumes on Biggest House in US - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2013/10/versailles-in-florida-construction-resumes-on-biggest-house-in-us/)

The 5 houses that would be larger are all museums now and not single-family, which would make this the largest single-family house.

Also, you should watch the documentary on that house. They ran out of money the first time around with the recession. Looks like he made a lot of money back.

Achilleslastand
03-12-2014, 10:26 PM
I am currently in the garage designing and building trebuchets. Also recruiting knights and archers for a future "siege".

BoulderSooner
03-12-2014, 10:40 PM
Econnomic boost all about creating jobs. Lol

Mel
03-12-2014, 11:23 PM
I wonder how much live in and daily staff they will have? 24 hour security, I couldn't enjoy living in something that big.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 01:00 AM
Econnomic boost all about creating jobs. Lolit will create jobs as having yard maintenance, security, maids, construction jobs, etc. Have you ever thought about the impact on the property tax(which I believe goes to Oklahoma County and please correct me if I'm wrong)? Not only is this going to put Edmond on the map(yet again), it will be known as just another slight, but somewhat significant, drawl and another destination. This is huge, imo. Having the largest single family home right here in OKC is amazing. I wouldn't care if this was being built in Norman, Newcastle, Yukon, or Guthrie(although I am glad it is being built in Edmond :o), this is just awesome it is being built right here in the OKC metro area.

To all the people saying that money could be better spent elsewhere, go out and make something of yourselves --walk the walk-- and when you get all that money, go right ahead and do what you please. I won't be mad at you because you choose to give it to parasites. If that is your will, then so be it. More power to you.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 01:02 AM
I wonder how much live in and daily staff they will have? 24 hour security, I couldn't enjoy living in something that big.Oh man, I could. It would be even better if they had someone design like 30,000 sf of hidden lairs throughout the house and never tell you about them and you could explore your own house and discover new rooms lol ;) It'd be like cubed(hypercube). lol

Mel
03-13-2014, 01:13 AM
If I had that kind of money I would buy and refurbish an old missile silo. Put a Garden style house on top for entertaining and when you get tired of the world just button up for awhile.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 01:19 AM
That'd be pretty cool. Have heard quite a bit of people have been doing that lately.

pw405
03-13-2014, 01:43 AM
So, the owner of this house owns one car lot on 240 and has this kind of money? Seems like a case of over compensation to me.... I mean, c'mon, what is he trying to prove? Or is this a national chain?

theanvil
03-13-2014, 08:27 AM
Yes, he owns Key Auto Group. But he also owns the Express Credit Auto stores and the new Tio Chuy's Auto Sales in south OKC. Those are used car dealerships that specialize in high-interest car loans to people with poor to marginal credit.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 09:47 AM
So, the owner of this house owns one car lot on 240 and has this kind of money? Seems like a case of over compensation to me.... I mean, c'mon, what is he trying to prove? Or is this a national chain?I'm sure he has more than that one business as already stated above me.

Bunty
03-13-2014, 10:03 AM
I hope his lot will allow a good view of the house from the street. Too many attractive homes are blocked from public view by being situated on very wooded lots or acreages.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 10:10 AM
I hope his lot will allow a good view of the house from the street. Too many attractive homes are blocked from public view by being situated on very wooded lots or acreages.Ummmmm.. if you're spending this kind of money and building it this far out, why would you want people to see it? I would want my house hidden and secluded, but still near the city.

traxx
03-13-2014, 10:26 AM
Ummmmm.. if you're spending this kind of money and building it this far out, why would you want people to see it? I would want my house hidden and secluded, but still near the city.

I don't know whether it'll be visible from the road or not but I tend to think you could at least see the spires. But I think if you're building the largest single family home in the country and it looks like a castle with a bunch of spires and a drawbridge, then you're building it for people to see. You're not building it to so no one but you sees it. You're building it to show off.

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 10:29 AM
I don't know whether it'll be visible from the road or not but I tend to think you could at least see the spires. But I think if you're building the largest single family home in the country and it looks like a castle with a bunch of spires and a drawbridge, then you're building it for people to see. You're not building it to so no one but you sees it. You're building it to show off.Only going by personal preference, I ever got that rich and wanted to build something like that, it would be hidden. I would NOT want people to see it. However, if I had that big of a house, most of it would be labs and such.

Just the facts
03-13-2014, 10:58 AM
You know, if he just walled off the whole 100 acres and created a modern version of medieval walled village/city I would live in it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UOmkAv4l-RI/Tgk1lPACVdI/AAAAAAAAAHM/F3PjclCXuVI/s400/carcassonne1.jpg

http://observers.france24.com/files/images/wall%20cities10.jpg

Pete
03-13-2014, 11:26 AM
I deleted a bunch of posts that were personal and way off topic.

This thread is about the proposed house, not class warfare. Thanks.

KenRagsdale
03-13-2014, 01:47 PM
Edmond Mega Mansion Could Become Largest Home In US - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/24959146/edmond-mega-mansion-could-become-largest-home-in-us)

pw405
03-13-2014, 01:59 PM
You know, if he just walled off the whole 100 acres and created a modern version of medieval walled village/city I would live in it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UOmkAv4l-RI/Tgk1lPACVdI/AAAAAAAAAHM/F3PjclCXuVI/s400/carcassonne1.jpg

http://observers.france24.com/files/images/wall%20cities10.jpg

Haha, now that would be cool. I would totally recreate one of the cities from Skyrim the video game!

Now I underestand that note lots are high margin, but I still can't fathom the economics of this situation, does this guy rank as one of the richest people in OK? I've never even heard of this guy until now.

catch22
03-13-2014, 02:06 PM
Aside from the cost to build, the most intriguing thing to me will be the cost to maintain, and operate. How much electricity will he be pulling from the grid in the summer? Will this have an adverse affect on the grid in that area?

Just the facts
03-13-2014, 02:45 PM
Aside from the cost to build, the most intriguing thing to me will be the cost to maintain, and operate. How much electricity will he be pulling from the grid in the summer? Will this have an adverse affect on the grid in that area?

The electric company is required by law to supply whatever electrical needs a residential home requires. That includes putting in new transmission lines with the cost be absorbed by all customers. However, what ever amount of electricity this place uses pales in comparison to a 300 unit subdivision.

Midtowner
03-13-2014, 02:49 PM
I'm hopeful that they only use top quality materials and craftsmen to build this thing. Megamansions like this have a habit of becoming museums after their original owners tire of them or die off.

Done right, this could be a potential Philbrook type museum 100 or so years from now.

kevinpate
03-13-2014, 03:11 PM
If I had that kind of money I would buy and refurbish an old missile silo. Put a Garden style house on top for entertaining and when you get tired of the world just button up for awhile.

Not so long ago there was an inactive silo for sale down in, if memory serves, Kiowa county, or else right in that general area. Wasn't any type of ridic pricing either.

Just the facts
03-13-2014, 03:13 PM
If he wanted to impress me he would build it in Core to Shore or on the banks of the Oklahoma River. Otherwise, he built a place that the vast majority of people will never see - which makes zero sense to me.

http://travelfeatured.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/River-Seine-9.jpg

CuatrodeMayo
03-13-2014, 03:15 PM
I'm hopeful that they only use top quality materials and craftsmen to build this thing. Megamansions like this have a habit of becoming museums after their original owners tire of them or die off.

Done right, this could be a potential Philbrook type museum 100 or so years from now.

COULD be. My hunch it will simply be the largest of Edmond's plywood palaces.

bluedogok
03-13-2014, 08:52 PM
If I had that kind of money I would buy and refurbish an old missile silo. Put a Garden style house on top for entertaining and when you get tired of the world just button up for awhile.
There is an old Atlas silo for sale a couple of miles from where I live between Aurora and Centennial, Colorado. It has 55,000 sf of hardened, underground bunker for only 3.5 million.


The electric company is required by law to supply whatever electrical needs a residential home requires. That includes putting in new transmission lines with the cost be absorbed by all customers. However, what ever amount of electricity this place uses pales in comparison to a 300 unit subdivision.
That isn't the case everywhere, many charge the customer for "upgraded" transformers and extending lines from the right of way beyond what would be considered the norm.

BBatesokc
03-13-2014, 09:38 PM
Just throwing my two cents in...... not to burst anyone's overly hopeful bubble, but I personally wouldn't trust David or Kendal Frayer as far as I could throw them.

My money says this mammoth pipe dream is never built (and was never intended to be).

The Frayer's (David in particular) have a sketchy past (i.e. Frayer Ministries LLC, business restructuring and name changes) and word has it (not my word, word from those in the know) just a couple of years ago David was bouncing checks to local car dealers that have far deeper portfolio's than he, and even they couldn't realistically dream of such an over-indulgent endeavorer.

There is some sort of angle to this 'story' I just don't know what it is yet.

David has money (multimillion dollar home now), but nowhere near the money, credit or clout that would be needed to pull this off.

This is David from a few years ago.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkMBkzJzSgk

Plutonic Panda
03-13-2014, 11:41 PM
Well, the way I see this, I won't believe it until it's built. Hope it does get built though.

Bunty
03-14-2014, 05:00 PM
If I had the money to build the country's biggest house, I think I would, instead, use the money to build a small skyscraper, live in the top two floors and rent the lower floors for income.

Garin
03-14-2014, 05:11 PM
COULD be. My hunch it will simply be the largest of Edmond's plywood palaces.

What kind of statement is that? What should homes be built from Mr. Architect?

Dustin
03-14-2014, 07:23 PM
More photos of this behemoth courtesy of NewsOK:

http://i.imgur.com/KrEH3EE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/epBUhVh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qqFVj28.jpg

Dustin
03-14-2014, 07:24 PM
All I gotta say is, if this thing gets built, it better be a Parade of Homes home.

I gotta step foot inside this thing!