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kelroy55
03-04-2014, 11:16 AM
I know which way I would rule if I was the judge....

A New Jersey teenager claiming that her mother and father tossed her out of their home and cut her off financially is suing them for immediate support, current private-school fees and future college tuition. The parents, meanwhile, say that daughter Rachel Canning, 18, moved out voluntarily after refusing to abide by their rules.

“We love our child and miss her. This is terrible. It’s killing me and my wife,” Rachel's father, Sean Canning, a town administrator and retired police officer, tells the Daily Record. “We have a child we want home. We’re not Draconian and now we’re getting hauled into court. She’s demanding that we pay her bills but she doesn’t want to live at home, and she’s saying, ‘I don’t want to live under your rules.’” The rules, he notes, include reconsidering her relationship with a boyfriend who may be a bad influence, being respectful, and abiding by her curfew. He and his wife, Elizabeth, who live in suburban Lincoln Park, about 25 miles outside of New York City, have kept their daughter’s car because they paid for it, says Canning, and he admits that they did stop paying Rachel's tuition at the private Morris Catholic High School. A hearing is scheduled to take place on Tuesday in the Morris County Superior Court.

For months, Rachel — an honor student, cheerleader, and lacrosse player — has been living with the family of her best friend and classmate, Jaime Inglesino, whose father, attorney John Inglesino, is bankrolling Rachel’s lawsuit. He’s also requesting in the lawsuit that the Cannings reimburse him for the legal fees, so far totaling $12,597, according to the paper.

Rachel’s attorney, Tanya Helfand, is not taking calls as she prepares for Tuesday's hearing, her office tells Yahoo Shine. Rachel did not return a call from Yahoo Shine, and the Morris County court was closed on Monday due to inclement weather. But the Daily Record reports that, in the suit, Rachel alleges that her parents decided to cut her off “from all support both financially and emotionally” as of her 18th birthday, which was November 1. Her suit also demands the following of the Cannings: that they take care of an outstanding $5,306 Morris Catholic tuition bill; pay their daughter’s current living and transportation expenses; and free up her existing college fund, as she’s already been accepted to several universities.

It’s not unheard of for youngsters to take legal action against their parents for various offenses — from a pregnant Texas teen who sued her parents for allegedly pressuring her to get an abortion, to a pair of Illinois siblings in their 20s who sued their mom (unsuccessfully) for bad mothering. Even so, the Canning case is an extremely unusual one, according to experts in family law. That’s because similar suits typically involve either a divorce situation, with parents disagreeing on a child’s financial support, or a fight for emancipation, in which a teen is declared financially independent from parents.

“This young woman is actually saying, ‘I want the court to compel my parents to continue to support me financially. That’s what’s unique in this case,” Mary Coogan, assistant director of the nonprofit Advocates for Children of New Jersey, tells Yahoo Shine. “So this young lady is in a unique situation because it does become very fact-sensitive. There’s really no law directly on point.” What families in similar situations have done, in Coogan’s experience, is to file for what’s called a “family crisis petition,” in which the court will try to mediate an agreeable outcome between the parents and their child.

Talking the situation through would be a better route than a lawsuit, Kenneth Neumann, a New York divorce mediator and psychologist with the Center for Mediation & Training, tells Yahoo Shine. “We often use the legal system as a way to deal with disagreements when we should be using therapy or mediation,” he says, noting that Rachel’s case is “extremely rare,” and that he’s “not had a case like this in 30 years,” with the most unique angle being that the parents are not in disagreement. Unfortunately for Rachel, Neumann says, “I don’t think she has much of a case. This sounds like just another 18-year-old who got into a thing with her parents.

gjl
03-04-2014, 12:27 PM
I know which way I would rule if I was the judge....

I think I know, but how? She is an honor student.

OKCretro
03-04-2014, 12:36 PM
My guess is Kelroy would rule in favor of the kid...

Its her right to get a free education and its the parents duty to pay for college, just like all the other entitlements the govt has to provide for its citizens

kelroy55
03-04-2014, 12:38 PM
You guessed wrong.

gjl
03-04-2014, 12:50 PM
I might rule that the parents are obligated to pay her outstanding $5,306 Morris Catholic tuition bill, and maybe a portion of the attorney fees. The attorney fees seem pretty high. Even if the attorney is billing at $200/hour, that is over 62 hours. Seems like a lot of hours not even going to court yet. I would be surprised if they are not legally bound by something they signed with the school to do that.

hoya
03-04-2014, 12:53 PM
The school would need to sue them for the tuition, not the girl.

PennyQuilts
03-04-2014, 02:55 PM
Parents pay for college education as a gift. That child may find herself not only out of parent sponsored college, she may end up out of the will. I can't imagine what sort of parenting would result in a child feeling that entitled.

gjl
03-04-2014, 02:59 PM
Parents pay for college education as a gift. That child may find herself not only out of parent sponsored college, she may end up out of the will. I can't imagine what sort of parenting would result in a child feeling that entitled.

Probably a lot of the parenting that goes on today.

Garin
03-04-2014, 03:14 PM
College is a right!

Stew
03-04-2014, 04:23 PM
I'm sorry but Rachel Canning's plight can't soothe my outrage monkey. Gonna have to throw in some parental swinging or crack smacking Jesus hating dwarves. This fix just simply doesn't do the trick.

ctchandler
03-04-2014, 07:01 PM
Garin,
Where is it listed as a "right"?
C. T.
College is a right!

Mel
03-04-2014, 07:08 PM
Another brat on the news. Yawn.

mmonroe
03-04-2014, 11:53 PM
College is a privilege, not a right. If you work hard through school with good grades and get to graduation, you have the privilege of going to college. For the student who slacked off, barely passed and made it to graduation, that student does not have the privilege of going to college because that student is not prepared. Allowing that unprepared student to go to college without proof of merit would be a right, of which we all know it is not.

If she is such a great student, there are plenty of scholarships for her to apply for, be it for her sport, her grades, her hobby, or even her gender.

This is a perfect example of a privileged child who doesn't understand the difference between financially gracious parents and the value of a post secondary education. What she really wants is to skip a few steps in life that not everyone has the privilege to have.

Ungrateful.

RadicalModerate
03-05-2014, 10:34 AM
I wonder if her parents have thought about filing a countersuit involving malicious and frivolous prosecution . . .
Or maybe a civil suit against their prophylactic manufacturer of choice.
It might make a good novel (or Lifetime TV show): The Case of The Trojan Ho.

MustangGT
03-05-2014, 12:44 PM
I an glad the ungrateful little hussy got the bogus suit thrown out by a judge who has some common sense.

gjl
03-05-2014, 02:45 PM
So do you think she is still in the parent's will?

PennyQuilts
03-05-2014, 02:55 PM
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/188900.html)

Actually, this child is worse. Not only does she not say thank you, she demands big bucks after slandering them. I pity the fool who marries her or, worse, shares a child with her.

RadicalModerate
03-05-2014, 03:47 PM
How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/188900.html)

Actually, this child is worse. Not only does she not say thank you, she demands big bucks after slandering them. I pity the fool who marries her or, worse, shares a child with her.

"You damn shure got THAT straight" . . .

http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/mr-t-300x300.jpg

OKCretro
03-06-2014, 08:32 AM
dave ramsey's take on the subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2gWwkeShws

Spartan
03-06-2014, 08:47 AM
I know several people from Morris County and they're all pretty self-centered spoiled brats...

LocoAko
03-06-2014, 08:56 AM
I know several people from Morris County and they're all pretty self-centered spoiled brats...

Something like that.

rezman
03-06-2014, 09:13 AM
I got a chuckle when Yesterday I heard one man say " she screwed up when she tried to sue for tuition. If she would have sued for her birth control, she would have won" ..

rezman
03-06-2014, 09:14 AM
Shoot ... look around.

Prunepicker
03-06-2014, 08:20 PM
Is there anyone who doesn't believe the judge was absolutely right?

Chadanth
03-06-2014, 08:25 PM
Judge would be right to throw the whole thing out and force the girl to pay her parent's legal costs.

Mel
03-06-2014, 08:27 PM
She got brat slapped. Good.

Prunepicker
03-06-2014, 08:33 PM
She got brat slapped. Good.
And rightly so. The judge just created a reasonable precedent. Kudos.

kelroy55
03-07-2014, 05:46 AM
And rightly so. The judge just created a reasonable precedent. Kudos.

Wouldn't it have been a precedent if the judge ruled the other way?

Midtowner
03-07-2014, 06:53 AM
That judge doesn't creat precedent.

Garin
03-07-2014, 07:18 AM
College is a privilege, not a right. If you work hard through school with good grades and get to graduation, you have the privilege of going to college. For the student who slacked off, barely passed and made it to graduation, that student does not have the privilege of going to college because that student is not prepared. Allowing that unprepared student to go to college without proof of merit would be a right, of which we all know it is not.

If she is such a great student, there are plenty of scholarships for her to apply for, be it for her sport, her grades, her hobby, or even her gender.

This is a perfect example of a privileged child who doesn't understand the difference between financially gracious parents and the value of a post secondary education. What she really wants is to skip a few steps in life that not everyone has the privilege to have.

Ungrateful.

It's in the Constitution right next to where is says healthcare is a right .....DUH!

Dennis Heaton
03-07-2014, 07:38 AM
Good Lord! Who does she think she is? She's not an Obama, Clinton or Kennedy! The Judge ought to order her to do 2 years with VISTA!

ctchandler
03-07-2014, 10:31 AM
Garin,
I got it this time, you have to type (talk) slow for us old folks.
C. T.
It's in the Constitution right next to where is says healthcare is a right .....DUH!

Prunepicker
03-07-2014, 09:12 PM
Probably a lot of the parenting that goes on today.
Which is completely reasonable [the post replying to pq]

Prunepicker
03-07-2014, 09:16 PM
It's in the Constitution right next to where is says healthcare is a right...DUH!
LOL! Some people have no idea, or clue, as to what the Constitution says.
Reading it one time, should take 20 to 30 minutes, would clear up many of the
misconceptions, i.e. anything the left tends to say it says.

Dennis Heaton
03-07-2014, 09:33 PM
Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text (http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html)

LocoAko
03-12-2014, 12:53 PM
Rachel Canning, 'spoiled' N.J. teen, goes home to parents - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rachel-canning-spoiled-n-teen-home-parents-article-1.1719110)

Midtowner
03-12-2014, 01:33 PM
Lots of internet lawyers on this thread.

I doubt any of you researched the law on this or knows a single thing about NJ child support law. Further, you're making a lot of assumptions which none of you knows is true or not. Was Canning subject to abuse in her parents' home? You don't know that. That the boyfriend's father was willing to pay for an attorney tells me there must be something to this story. Simply concluding that she is "bratty" or "spoiled," I think is making assumptions based on zero personal knowledge of the facts.

In Oklahoma, for example, the parents' child support obligation does not automatically end at 18. It can go as far as 21 and arguably even past that (there may be a case on point saying otherwise, but I don't know of it and since I'm not getting paid for this, I'm not going to look for it). As late as 21 is possible if the child is enrolled and regularly attending a full time high school program until graduation from that program.

Under Oklahoma law, I don't think a situation where direct support payments being paid to the child are ever going to be possible. If the child is able to manage her own affairs, she might be a candidate for emancipation (and no child support comes with that), but not to receive the money herself.

Getting creative, under Oklahoma Law, I could have her placed into a voluntary guardianship, show that abuse was happening in the hone and if she's still in high school and regularly attending, a court very well might order support and even private school tuition.

College though? That's probably wishful thinking. This 'news story' does a lot of editorializing, and frankly goes over the line. This is a situation none of us should have been privy to. It's kind of creepy that anyone would want to call this news in the first place, let alone pick a side and root for them.

traxx
03-13-2014, 10:14 AM
That the boyfriend's father was willing to pay for an attorney tells me there must be something to this story.

It could tell us that there's more to the story than has been made public. Or it could tell us that the lawyer father is a douche and thinks this case can make him and attorney Tanya Helfand famous. It's not unheard of. The thing is, you're jumping to conclusions while accusing everyone else of doing the same.

kelroy55
03-13-2014, 10:59 AM
I know that whenever my kids were mad because I didn't give them more money I just said so sue me....

TaoMaas
03-13-2014, 11:15 AM
Frankly, I think this girl needs a butt-whippin'...but this case made me question..."if we have set a monetary amount on the level of support for a child, what degree of control should that child have over those funds if they are of legal age?"

Midtowner
03-14-2014, 01:12 PM
Frankly, I think this girl needs a butt-whippin'...but this case made me question..."if we have set a monetary amount on the level of support for a child, what degree of control should that child have over those funds if they are of legal age?"

Either someone else is caring for them and receiving the money or they're emancipated. I can't think of too many reasons other than being disabled for a student to continue regularly attending HS until they are 21.