Plutonic Panda
02-11-2014, 03:07 PM
A team of scientists now claims it can forecast disruptive El Niņo events a year in advance, and that an El Niņo has a 3-in-4 chance of happening later this year.
However, other scientists criticize this work, calling the methods used for the forecast outdated and the data underlying it limited.
El Niņo is a phenomenon that occurs when equatorial Pacific waters are abnormally warm. An El Niņo event can disrupt ocean and wind currents across the globe, wreaking havoc on the climate and triggering disasters worldwide.
El Niņo, which means "little boy" or "the baby Jesus" in Spanish, was named by South American fishermen, who noticed that the ocean would heat up around Christmastime. Its counterpart, La Niņa (Spanish for "little girl") occurs when equatorial Pacific waters are unusually cold, and it can also influence weather events around the world. Together, El Niņo and La Niņa are known as the El Niņo Southern Oscillation, or ENSO.
It's now routine for scientists to forecast, about six months in advance, how this cycle will behave. Predictions of its long-term behavior, however, have been hampered by the relatively short history scientists have of monitoring it.
However, researchers in Germany and Israel recently claimed they could forecast El Niņo about a year ahead. Now, they suggest El Niņo has a 3-in-4 chance of returning in late 2014. The forecast "may allow society to better adapt and mitigate the sometimes devastating effects of an El Niņo event," study co-author Armin Bunde, a theoretical physicist at the University of Giessen in Germany, told Live Science.
Sound forecast?
Conventionally, scientists forecast ENSO by checking water temperatures in the eastern Pacific, along the equator. This water temperature is strongly influenced by the trade winds blowing across the equator, which may or may not change their direction in the springtime. This uncertainty limits predictions to six months or less, since ENSO forecasts depend in part on the direction the trade winds blow.
"Our approach uses another route," Bunde told Live Science. "We do not consider the water temperature in a specific area of the Pacific Ocean, but the atmospheric temperatures in all areas of the Pacific. Then, we study how the temperatures in the El Niņo basin are linked to the temperatures in the rest of the Pacific area."
The researchers said their method correctly predicted the absence of El Niņo events in 2012 and 2013, and forecast about a 75 percent chance of an El Niņo in late 2014. In the future, they hope they can also forecast the strength of El Niņo events. They detailed their latest findings online Feb. 10 in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
However, climatologist Tim Barnett at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif., who did not take part in this research, said the methods the researchers employed were outdated.
"The techniques the researchers used made me feel like I was back in the 1980s and 1990s," Barnett said.
Climatologist Anthony Barnston, chief forecaster at Columbia University's International Research Institute for Climate and Society in the Palisades, N.Y., who did not participate in this study, noted that this latest research did not model the physics of the seas or atmosphere, but only looked for statistical patterns in temperature readings.
"A common problem with statistical methods is that you can always find a statistical relationship if you look hard enough," Barnston said. "Also, while they looked at data from 1950 to 2013, there is relatively lower quality temperature data from that area in the '50s and '60s. We wish it were better, but it isn't, and when you're using a statistical method and define the (statistical) relationships from not-so-great data, you lose a considerable degree of success."
"The simplistic calculations they use basically ignore all the physics we've discovered about the ocean and the atmosphere of the equatorial Pacific," Barnett added.
Barnston and Barnett noted their own forecasts also suggest an El Niņo may occur later this year. "However, our forecast is based on physical models," Barnston said. "If we used their method for the next 20 years, I bet their method will begin underperforming, because it's not based on physics and is not based on enough high-quality data."
- http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-tout-el-ni-o-forecast-others-doubt-202723166.html
Would be nice to see another El Niņo here, the rain would be much appreciated....
Ocean Temps.
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However, other scientists criticize this work, calling the methods used for the forecast outdated and the data underlying it limited.
El Niņo is a phenomenon that occurs when equatorial Pacific waters are abnormally warm. An El Niņo event can disrupt ocean and wind currents across the globe, wreaking havoc on the climate and triggering disasters worldwide.
El Niņo, which means "little boy" or "the baby Jesus" in Spanish, was named by South American fishermen, who noticed that the ocean would heat up around Christmastime. Its counterpart, La Niņa (Spanish for "little girl") occurs when equatorial Pacific waters are unusually cold, and it can also influence weather events around the world. Together, El Niņo and La Niņa are known as the El Niņo Southern Oscillation, or ENSO.
It's now routine for scientists to forecast, about six months in advance, how this cycle will behave. Predictions of its long-term behavior, however, have been hampered by the relatively short history scientists have of monitoring it.
However, researchers in Germany and Israel recently claimed they could forecast El Niņo about a year ahead. Now, they suggest El Niņo has a 3-in-4 chance of returning in late 2014. The forecast "may allow society to better adapt and mitigate the sometimes devastating effects of an El Niņo event," study co-author Armin Bunde, a theoretical physicist at the University of Giessen in Germany, told Live Science.
Sound forecast?
Conventionally, scientists forecast ENSO by checking water temperatures in the eastern Pacific, along the equator. This water temperature is strongly influenced by the trade winds blowing across the equator, which may or may not change their direction in the springtime. This uncertainty limits predictions to six months or less, since ENSO forecasts depend in part on the direction the trade winds blow.
"Our approach uses another route," Bunde told Live Science. "We do not consider the water temperature in a specific area of the Pacific Ocean, but the atmospheric temperatures in all areas of the Pacific. Then, we study how the temperatures in the El Niņo basin are linked to the temperatures in the rest of the Pacific area."
The researchers said their method correctly predicted the absence of El Niņo events in 2012 and 2013, and forecast about a 75 percent chance of an El Niņo in late 2014. In the future, they hope they can also forecast the strength of El Niņo events. They detailed their latest findings online Feb. 10 in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
However, climatologist Tim Barnett at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif., who did not take part in this research, said the methods the researchers employed were outdated.
"The techniques the researchers used made me feel like I was back in the 1980s and 1990s," Barnett said.
Climatologist Anthony Barnston, chief forecaster at Columbia University's International Research Institute for Climate and Society in the Palisades, N.Y., who did not participate in this study, noted that this latest research did not model the physics of the seas or atmosphere, but only looked for statistical patterns in temperature readings.
"A common problem with statistical methods is that you can always find a statistical relationship if you look hard enough," Barnston said. "Also, while they looked at data from 1950 to 2013, there is relatively lower quality temperature data from that area in the '50s and '60s. We wish it were better, but it isn't, and when you're using a statistical method and define the (statistical) relationships from not-so-great data, you lose a considerable degree of success."
"The simplistic calculations they use basically ignore all the physics we've discovered about the ocean and the atmosphere of the equatorial Pacific," Barnett added.
Barnston and Barnett noted their own forecasts also suggest an El Niņo may occur later this year. "However, our forecast is based on physical models," Barnston said. "If we used their method for the next 20 years, I bet their method will begin underperforming, because it's not based on physics and is not based on enough high-quality data."
- http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-tout-el-ni-o-forecast-others-doubt-202723166.html
Would be nice to see another El Niņo here, the rain would be much appreciated....
Ocean Temps.
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HVMFN9k8P6UnY5.4Ly6etA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTI4ODtweW9mZj0wO3E9Nz U7dz01NzU-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/LiveScience.com/el-nino-2006.jpg1392063656