Yep, in Austin, San Antonio, DFW or Houston you have no choice. You had to go well out of the emission control counties of a metro area to find E0 gas. As much as Charlotte has grown I would imagine it is similar the Texas cities in EPA mandates. The ethanol free gas is much more important to small engines and vehicles that sit for awhile being unused. I do know that the owners manuals for the cars and my motorcycle say do not use anything with more than 10% ethanol.DFW has Ethanol free gas, I filled up there other day. Unless something has changed, Houston also has it as of 3 months ago.

Not sure about Austin or SA.

Two-strokes seem to be a bit more sensitive to it than 4-stroke engines.

Definitely.

To get back on topic, I think the point was that if Shell sells ethanol-free gas they can differentiate from Sam's gas and keep their business up. There's definitely a market for 100% gas in OKC, given how widely available it is. Even if they don't adapt, Shell probably won't have much trouble.

I agree. Before moving to OKC, I didn't realize they still had 100% non-ethanol gasoline. The EPA regulations in Charlotte are much stricter. There are many cars from the 1970s and 80s still on the road in OKC that couldn't be legally tagged in Mecklenburg County.

OMG even the cars are better in Charlotte?????

I'm not a regular Sam's shopper (only because I never need that much bulk merchandise), but I think this is a big win for the area.

I hope this spurs some development, or at least clean up, along May to the South.

Personally, I am a little disappointed in this only because I remember when there was a plan for a much better use of this space. I can't find it right now, but I remember there was a hotel on the far NW corner of the space and mostly restaurant pad sites facing May. Much like what was originally proposed for the Dave and Buster's area on May. I know they are going to start work on redoing May from NW 36th to Britton and I hope that includes making the street to bridge over I-44 more seamless instead of a huge dip that people slow down to 20 mph to go over. Luckily, there is already a fifth lane so there won't be too much of a traffic backup.

Personally, I am a little disappointed in this only because I remember when there was a plan for a much better use of this space. I can't find it right now, but I remember there was a hotel on the far NW corner of the space and mostly restaurant pad sites facing May. Much like what was originally proposed for the Dave and Buster's area on May. I know they are going to start work on redoing May from NW 36th to Britton and I hope that includes making the street to bridge over I-44 more seamless instead of a huge dip that people slow down to 20 mph to go over. Luckily, there is already a fifth lane so there won't be too much of a traffic backup.

I just hope they find a way to provide access to I-44 west from 39th.

I just hope they find a way to provide access to I-44 west from 39th.

Pretty much impossible. Just have to go south to 36th and then to 44.

I just hope they find a way to provide access to I-44 west from 39th.

Yeah, I think it was tried about ten years ago and there were so many wrecks from people trying to cross three lanes of traffic going 30 mph, they just blocked it off. If anything, there just needs to be a lot better signage so people don't get lost trying to look for it.

Yeah, I think it was tried about ten years ago and there were so many wrecks from people trying to cross three lanes of traffic going 30 mph, they just blocked it off. If anything, there just needs to be a lot better signage so people don't get lost trying to look for it.

Yeah, I know the wrecks were bad, just wish there was some way to mitigate that.

Yeah, I know the wrecks were bad, just wish there was some way to mitigate that.

Flyover would fix it, unfortunately they probably have no interest in spending that amount of money on that intersection.

All kinds of gas aside, what kind of time frame are we looking at on this if the application is approved? End of 2014?

I just hope they find a way to provide access to I-44 west from 39th.They had one, originally, but it proved to be so accident-prone that they closed it. That entire interchange area is so horribly designed that it needs to be completely re-done, from the ground up. Preferably, with no access to I44 at all in either direction from May...

I'm not a huge Walmart fan myself. That being said I am a Sam's Club member and this is a great move for the company in OKC. The location in WOKC on the I40 frontage is too busy. With the current developments and out of town shoppers coming in from Yukon and beyond it was becoming almost impossible to shop there due to the volume of customers. Should buy them some time before there is enough population growth in the far SW sector of OKC to support another store.

I'm just hoping that this somehow spurs some new businesses in the Mayfair shopping center. I'm right around the corner and would like to keep my money in the neighborhood but right now Khazana is the only one getting any of my cash in that strip.

I would think some sort of true lifestyle center type development would have been better for that. This will probably mostly just spur additional congestion.

I would think some sort of true lifestyle center type development would have been better for that. This will probably mostly just spur additional congestion.
C'mon. Let me live the lie.
This won't make my daily drive a pain in the @ss. Plus I'll have the convenience of 5 gallon tubs of mayo right around the corner.

I would think some sort of true lifestyle center type development would have been better for that. This will probably mostly just spur additional congestion.

It was marketed as such for a long time but apparently there weren't any bites.

I just hope they find a way to provide access to I-44 west from 39th.

Your better off safety wise to go to 50th or 36th. That ramp going to LHP can be a nightmare to navigate sometimes. It never fails I always deal with a last minute merging 18 Wheeler or a person who is driving slower than molasses trying to merge on to LHP/44.




I'm just hoping that this somehow spurs some new businesses in the Mayfair shopping center. I'm right around the corner and would like to keep my money in the neighborhood but right now Khazana is the only one getting any of my cash in that strip. You can blame owners for that one. They were responsible for killing the grocery store so CVS could open a bigger mediocre store. They have ran off most of the tenants there thanks to outrageous rent rates and a refusal to make repairs on the property.

Personally, I think this is the best situation this property could hope for. Sam's will bring a descent crop of shoppers and they will keep the property looking nice. No other store other than a dollar store (DG, Family Dollar or Dollar Tree) is going to be interested in this area. To be honest, I'm tired of seeing the light pole stumps and stripped foundations. It's time for something useful to be placed on this property. For all we know, it might revitalize the areas. There are some descent homes in this area that just need a little TLC to bring the neighborhood back to what it used to be. Who knows, Circle K may be encouraged to remodel to a nicer store. After all not everybody has a Sam's membership. You have to have one to buy their gas.

OKC...better than crappy makes us happy!

okc...better than crappy makes us happy!

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That and all the targets across the street from walmarts...they aren't afraid to compete either.

had to laugh when I read that...

Yes it is true that they sometimes build a Target near a Walmart but if you ask the management or employees at Target why their SuperTarget isn't open 24 hrs like the Walmart Supercenter and they will flat out tell you that they aren't in competition with Walmart!

I tried to shop at 3 am (when I got off work) and they were closed. i went back the next day on my way into work and that was the answer I got over and over again. The added response was "if you don't like our hours, don't shop here" Duh, if you aren't open and the competition is, guess where I am going to shop? LOL

Am thrilled to have a Sams closer to me!

had to laugh when I read that...

Yes it is true that they sometimes build a Target near a Walmart but if you ask the management or employees at Target why their SuperTarget isn't open 24 hrs like the Walmart Supercenter and they will flat out tell you that they aren't in competition with Walmart!

I tried to shop at 3 am (when I got off work) and they were closed. i went back the next day on my way into work and that was the answer I got over and over again. The added response was "if you don't like our hours, don't shop here" Duh, if you aren't open and the competition is, guess where I am going to shop? LOL

Am thrilled to have a Sams closer to me!

They may not see it that way, but they sell a lot of the same type products, have a similar (though obviously more upscale) set up and pretty similar prices. I shop at both for basically the same things depending on where I am and when I need to go, as do most other people I know. Their markets overlap so they are definitely competitors in some respects. However, the argument was that Walmart and Sams are keeping more upscale grocery stores, Costco, etc... from coming to OKC, so Target fits my point. Though you may make a better one...if Costco, Target, upscale/better grocery stores, etc don't see themselves in direct competition with Walmart & Sams... then all this Walmart dominating the market and keeping everyone else out stuff really is complete crap.

I'm right there with you, I'm fired up about this as well. One less reason to drive up to memorial.

As a member of the surrounding neighborhood I am very UNHAPPY to hear of this as are several of my fellow neighbors! We would love to see the abandoned lot developed but NOT with a Sam's club!! The additional traffic of both customers and the TRUCKS would be devastating to the surrounding community!! The access roads are in HORRIBLE condition already, I don't even want to imagine how much worse they will get if this happens. Traffic in the area is heavy already too. I would not hesitate to move if this happens.... and I Love my home.

To get the thread back on subject...:tongue:

I don't know how true this is but. During one of the crane stunts, Lynn Hickey took Evel Kneivel up in that van with him to appraise vehicles which is what the crane stunt was about. Lynn and Evel had been friends for a awhile and during this stunt they were back to the old shenanigans. Lynn and Evel were supposedly getting hammered up in that van, drunk as a skunk. Both were peeing in plastic bottles. One accidentally pee'd on the other and all heck broke loose. But by the time the van was lowered so Evel and Lynn could get out, both had forgotten what the fight was about and just ordered another bottle of grandpa's cough medicine. Back up they went and the madness continued. Heard more stories about those two. Don't know how true any of them are but that is what was told to me.

There should be a few more places in this area to eat fast food. Burger King, Carl's Jr, something. Lots of homes in this area and the fast food options are very limited. You gotta drive a bit to get to them.

There should be a few more places in this area to eat fast food. Burger King, Carl's Jr, something. Lots of homes in this area and the fast food options are very limited. You gotta drive a bit to get to them.

Uhhh...

I'll take Patty Wagon over Burger King every time.

I'll take Patty Wagon over Burger King every time.

Exactly. Or Barry's Old Fashioned Burgers just down the street at 32nd or so. But if chain fast food is what someone wants, a mile north there is Jack In The Box, KFC, Whataburger. "Drive a bit," is a subjective thing I suppose, but one mile north? Really - that's "a bit"? I agree with you anyway, there are better options that aren't chain fast food even closer.

As a member of the surrounding neighborhood I am very UNHAPPY to hear of this as are several of my fellow neighbors! We would love to see the abandoned lot developed but NOT with a Sam's club!! The additional traffic of both customers and the TRUCKS would be devastating to the surrounding community!! The access roads are in HORRIBLE condition already, I don't even want to imagine how much worse they will get if this happens. Traffic in the area is heavy already too. I would not hesitate to move if this happens.... and I Love my home.

So you want it developed with something with no traffic? How likely is that. LOL

As a member of the surrounding neighborhood I am very UNHAPPY to hear of this as are several of my fellow neighbors! We would love to see the abandoned lot developed but NOT with a Sam's club!! The additional traffic of both customers and the TRUCKS would be devastating to the surrounding community!! The access roads are in HORRIBLE condition already, I don't even want to imagine how much worse they will get if this happens. Traffic in the area is heavy already too. I would not hesitate to move if this happens.... and I Love my home.

Sam's does not see as many trucks as Walmart. Not to mention, Sam's and many other retailers forbid their vendors from idling on property. The vast amount of vendor trucks are going to be box trucks. Not to mention, the dock backs up to I-44 so your not going to see anymore truck traffic than you already see right now. Lowe's probably creates more traffic in day than Sam's will in a week. I am willing to bet if the neighbors tactully ask Sam's to tell the drivers not come down there, they will likely do so in the name of being a good neighbor. Besides the store closes at 8, by 9 the place will be pretty peacefull, by 10 it will be as quiet as cemetery. If I had to pick a box to move in my neighborhood it would be Sam's.

Sam's Club plans new store in northwest Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/sams-club-plans-new-store-in-northwest-oklahoma-city/article/3922002)

Perfect....forevermore I will refer to Edmond as "The Wall"

Building permit today for this project.

Will be just under 140,000 square feet.

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/7815d1399927886-sams-club-39th-n-may-sams.jpg

The purchase was listed in Saturdays paper. Cant remember exactly but sold for something like $6.5million

$6,296,500 for almost 14 acres.

Whats the latest on this project?

I don't know but I cringe at the thought of another light on May. It seems like there's one every 100 feet from 23rd to 50th.

I don't know but I cringe at the thought of another light on May. It seems like there's one every 100 feet from 23rd to 50th.

There is not a need for a light right there. People coming from the south can turn on 39th and go in or there is a middle turn lane after the gas station that they can use. Of course, that won't matter since there are people driving who shouldn't be on the road in the first place...

My gripe against Target is that in NWA and back home in Memphis is their stores are sparsely stocked and it's not because it's just after a busy weekend, there's always empty looking shelving in multiple depts every day of the week. Sometimes their children's clothing sections, especially boy's, shouldn't even exist. The Cosco location in the Memphis area are basically very close to a Sam's. We find that each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Waiting for them to try NWA, Sam's in putting in a third store it's back yard. And the products do vary, the NWA ones carries USDA Prime at insanely low prices considering what it fetches at meat markets while you'll never see that in the Memphis locations. Back to Walmart, folks don't give them credit but they have quietly added lines like Calphalon cookware and so on. Men's jeans are about the same with Walmart carrying Levi's Signature to Target's Levi's Denizen. Denizen came about because Target didn't like the brand sharing.

This location is (finally) out to bid for General Contractors at the end of the month. Would put construction starting around the 1st of April and completion somewhere around October / November of this year.

My gripe against Target is that in NWA and back home in Memphis is their stores are sparsely stocked and it's not because it's just after a busy weekend, there's always empty looking shelving in multiple depts every day of the week. Sometimes their children's clothing sections, especially boy's, shouldn't even exist. The Cosco location in the Memphis area are basically very close to a Sam's. We find that each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Waiting for them to try NWA, Sam's in putting in a third store it's back yard. And the products do vary, the NWA ones carries USDA Prime at insanely low prices considering what it fetches at meat markets while you'll never see that in the Memphis locations. Back to Walmart, folks don't give them credit but they have quietly added lines like Calphalon cookware and so on. Men's jeans are about the same with Walmart carrying Levi's Signature to Target's Levi's Denizen. Denizen came about because Target didn't like the brand sharing.

Sounds like the Target on NW Expressway and Rockwell.

Sounds like the Target on NW Expressway and Rockwell.

I like Target, but inventory control is my big problem with them. It's the same at Northwest Expressway and May.

I like Target, but inventory control is my big problem with them. It's the same at Northwest Expressway and May.

I've noticed that more than a few times since they expanded their grocery offerings at the NW Expy/May location. For example, one day I went in and there was almost nothing in the entire cheese section. Another time it was that way with the eggs. Strange.

Oh--so as not to derail the thread, glad to hear we're close to seeing some movement on the Sam's. I've been wondering what was the holdup.

I'm really confused on what they layout is going to be for this. I don't see how there is going to be room here for the building and he massive parking lot that will be required.

There will be quite a bit of parking along May:

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/5732d1388853656-sams-club-39th-n-may-39thmay1.jpg

There will be quite a bit of parking along May:

http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/5732d1388853656-sams-club-39th-n-may-39thmay1.jpg

Same type of layout in N. Edmond.
I wish they would put a south bound approach lane on May. Going to have traffic problems. The City Council is letting SAM'S off cheap.

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The traffic problems. That intersection is already packed. Without a new traffic light somewhere along the northern border of the property (not that I want another signal...I hated it when Lowe's just across the highway from this site got one), it'll be a cluster-you-know-what trying to get out if you're going northbound. You'll have to exit going west on 39th, then loop under I-44 at Drexel, then go back east to hit the light. It'll also be difficult getting into from the south. The 39th entrance will be jammed up, more than likely.

Just another reason to avoid May. From 10th to 63rd there must be lights every 6 blocks or so.

10th, 12th, 16th, 23rd, 27th, 30th, 36th, Lowes, 39th, 39th, 47th, 50th, 57th, 63rd. Am I missing any? :)

10th, 12th, 16th, 23rd, 27th, 30th, 36th, Lowes, 39th, 39th, 47th, 50th, 57th, 63rd. Am I missing any? :)

52nd also has a stoplight.

I'm really confused on what they layout is going to be for this. I don't see how there is going to be room here for the building and he massive parking lot that will be required.

Plans show 545 parking spaces which is 40 more then the city would require

52nd also has a stoplight.

How could I forget the Target light? Also there's one at the Bank of America.

Plans show 545 parking spaces which is 40 more then the city would require

Awesome. I hadn't seen the plans before. Still it looks like the parking situation is going to be awkward with the building in the SW part of the lot and parking all the way up to what looks like 42nd.

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Keep in mind the entrance will be at the NE corner of the building, so it's pretty well centered in the parking area.

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Keep in mind the entrance will be at the NE corner of the building, so it's pretty well centered in the parking area.

Is the Shell part of this deal, or will it stand alone as it is now?

That Shell station is under separate ownership and not a part of this project.

That Shell station is under separate ownership and not a part of this project.

That's what I thought originally, but wondered if they had worked out some deal. Thank you!

This corner is getting crowded. Also, right down the street to the west will be the new WinCo.

I'm hopeful that the development of this corner will spur redevelopment of some of the run-down/boarded up businesses and vacant lots in that part of town. It has huge potential.

I'm hopeful that the development of this corner will spur redevelopment of some of the run-down/boarded up businesses and vacant lots in that part of town. It has huge potential.

This is what I'm hoping for. I don't buy enough bulk items to make shopping at Sam's appealing, but I live within a mile south of here. Between the Sam's, and renovated Taft Stadium, and the On Cue, I'm hopeful this will encourage some other commercial property owners to make additional investments.

This is what I'm hoping for. I don't buy enough bulk items to make shopping at Sam's appealing, but I live within a mile south of here. Between the Sam's, and renovated Taft Stadium, and the On Cue, I'm hopeful this will encourage some other commercial property owners to make additional investments.

we must be nearly neighbors then.. yes I too hope this spurs some growth on May between 23rd and 36th especially. that area needs some love.. however as it does develop I see this end of May getting to be as congested as the north sections of May up around 63rd which can be horrible.

The building permit for this project was finally issued and they just applied for construction trailers which may already be on site.

Dirt should start moving soon.

See article at top of the page for details.