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Information & Latest News
11/26/13: Application before Urban Design Review Committee to be considered at their 12/18/13 meeting
11/26/13: $207,000 building permit application
1/18/12: Original application

Summary of design application: demolish existing mansard roof elements; remove existing roofing materials and replace with new; construct a new roof deck, roof top bar with new roof, new 8’-0” parapet wall along a portion of the east elevation and behind the roof top bar (or a guardrail on the east elevation as an alternative), a 42” guardrail at the north edge of the roof deck, new elevator shaft; install two new stairways on the west elevation with the northerly one being enclosed in polycarb panels; install new security screen at the top of the southerly stairway, construct new outdoor dining patio at the front of the building with a new roof awning and guardrails, construct new accessible ramp and new concrete steps, install landscaping, install a 6’ x 6’ walk-in cooler and provide a dumpster for trash collection.


Links
County Assessor Record (http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/AN-R.asp?ACCOUNTNO=R045000242)

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Whatever Guyutes is, that's exciting to see yet another stylish renovation and hopefully some quality retail added to the Uptown mix.

Definitely a step up. And in my neck of the woods, to boot. Pete - any additional details? I haven't seen reference in any planning agendas - where did you come across this one?

I'd never heard of Guyutes but this is the closest I could find to meanings.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Guyute

http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/dragon/pages/guyute.htm

It would be interesting to find out what their interpretation is.

http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/dragon/pages/guyute.htm

Maybe it will be an Asian grocery store.

Sounds/looks like a men's clothing store to me.

The applicants indicated to me that it would be a restaurant and/or bar. Need to go through Planning Commission for an ABC overlay...

The reason I assumed it wouldn't be a restaurant is because there is very little parking on that site -- no way would it meet code.

The rules for a bar may be different, however.

All Districts in the Urban Design Overlay are now exempt from minimum parking restrictions (Plaza, Asian District, NW 23rd - except west of Classen - Capitol Hill, and Paseo).

All Districts in the Urban Design Overlay are now exempt from minimum parking restrictions (Plaza, Asian District, NW 23rd - except west of Classen - Capitol Hill, and Paseo).

I thought that was true but, How do you explain this?

The vacant building(s) on the nw corner of 14th and broadway has an application on thursday's board of adjustment meeting to receive a variance for required parking spaces. It says the owner is proposing to remodel the building into a restaurant!

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=1423587

That is in area of straight zoning that still requires parking.

The reason I assumed it wouldn't be a restaurant is because there is very little parking on that site -- no way would it meet code.

The rules for a bar may be different, however.

The sign makes me think Bar.

The reason I assumed it wouldn't be a restaurant is because there is very little parking on that site -- no way would it meet code.

The rules for a bar may be different, however.

Tucker's and Cheever's are both pretty short on parking, yet many of their customers (especially Tucker's lately) park on the street, where there is ample parking. I don't think that there is currently a parking problem on 23rd, but I do foresee that the planned parking lot directly across from the Tower Theater will be tremendously useful to the entire budding district.

Whatever happened to Guyute's?

I do not know.

The building was purchased about a year ago by Wayne Allen, a 30-something singer/songwriter who has been in a number of bands.

I suspect this was to have been some sort of bar, but nothing has happened at that building since the original designs were submitted some time ago.


"Guyute" is the name of a Phish song, and looking at Wayne Allen's various music sites, you can see he is a huge Phish fan.

Whatever happened to Guyute's?

I noticed some young guys cleaning the property a week or two ago. When Wayne came in for his CA from Urban Design, I got the impression that he really wanted something cool but had no idea how to do it...

I heard back from Wayne Allen and he said Guyutes is to be a restaurant and bar and that it is still in progress.

He owns the building, so he's obviously committed.

I really like the bolded part, Pete.

Should have more details on this soon.

The rendering above is from a while ago and I believe it's changed, because now they are talking about a rooftop bar/deck, which sounds quite cool.

Yet another spot for the hot Updtown / 23rd district!

Yep and the walk in cooler. Meaning sounds like they will also be serving food.

Not sure as to the type of food but this strikes me to be very similar to Empire Slice House, with a rooftop deck instead of patio.

Tacos by the shell?

Wowee!

These are the renderings submitted with the Guyutes Restaurant & Bar design application... Another stunner for Uptown / 23rd.



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The rooftop is reminding me a bit of the old LIT.

I hope this is successful. The lack of rooftop utilization in OKC is astounding. Surely a railing/wall to code is able to curb liability issues.

Cue the Heritage Hills homeowners.

Something about drinking on a roof top is hard to beat. Went to Chicago earlier this year and enjoyed four different roof top establishments, all great atmospheres. Looks like a pretty sizable bar up there too.

It seams each new development has put a street side patio on 23rd. Hopefully this will create a push for a more walkable 23rd street. I wish The Rise could move their rooftop patio to the 23rd side rather than the rear of the building to further encourage this.

Great win, however I wish these new developments would push a zero lot line with either their outdoor seating or extending the building to the sidewalk.

Great win, however I wish these new developments would push a zero lot line with either their outdoor seating or extending the building to the sidewalk.

This is like pushing a boulder uphill, Metro. We celebrate this ingenuity and investment, but OKC gonna OKC. It's EXTREMELY HARD to get people and institutions here to recognize the benefits of building quality urban development. It is a continuous and continuing battle.

Oh I agree, don't get me wrong. I just wish more developers, biz owners and city officials understood the term urban development and zero lot lines.

Nm

Oh I agree, don't get me wrong. I just wish more developers, biz owners and city officials understood the term urban development and zero lot lines.

Me too. :/

Going back to Urban Design on Jan 22nd. Hopefully it will pass this time!!

Guyutes passes UDC! Construction to begin soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^^looking forward to how this place turns out and how it will transform the area/intersection.

Sadly the patio at street level fronting the building . Was not approved and was continued

Sadly the patio at street level fronting the building . Was not approved and was continued

Just to be clear (looks like autocorrect got to your post), there won't be a patio facing the street? That's a bummer, though that roof space should be nice.

Looks to me like he was saying that the patio was not approved this time around but continued for another Review, ostensibly with modifications being necessary for approval. I'd bet they're still planning on doing the patio.

Yes, let's them get under construction while time to iron out a "short-order" item (The patio doesn't need much lead time, and would come last in construction anyway).

Why was there concern over this passing UDC?

Why was there concern over this passing UDC?

Neighborhood protest.

Wow. I have never seen a neighborhood so protective of it's surrounding dilapidation.

Neighborhood protest.

By protesting everything they're really going to alienate themselves from their neighbors. Very disappointing.

CAVE people; Citizens Against Virtually Everything.

I worry that HH is seeing protest on our part and thinking that's the way to advocate for better, but the thing is we only protest in very specific situations that fall for it.

You think HH at large is even aware of this board or the posters on it? Highly doubtful, especially among the ones who are most apt to be NIMBY.

Also, is there any indication that it was specifically HH who lodged the "neighborhood protest"? A couple of other neighborhoods are directly adjacent; HH is several blocks away.

I believe it was just a nearby neighbor or two, not the organized HH group.

I believe it was just a nearby neighbor or two, not the organized HH group.

Isn't the HH anti-sex shop bunch organizing against a music venue?

If certain HH members are determined to protest every project in the area then I guess it seems that others from the neighborhood need to speak out (and maybe they are?) to offset these voices on reasonable projects (like this one). This seems necessary so the entire neighborhood doesn't get a bad rap, right?

The problem is that a few loud negative voices carry a lot of weight, usually out of proportion to their numbers. That happens with committees, councils, etc. all the time. And the pro people tend not to show up as consistently.

Wouldn't this be Mesta and Paseo, not HH? Do we know this is HH protesters or have they just become the favorite target of the board?

The protest was from the house directly next door

Wouldn't this be Mesta and Paseo, not HH? Do we know this is HH protesters or have they just become the favorite target of the board?

That's what I was saying. Only less...directly.

The protest was from the house directly next door

Hope they find a way to assuage the neighbor's fears. The more I look at this, the more I realize what a cool little chunk of urbanity it is. I hope the entire thing is built as drawn.

There will be a presentation by the Gutes fols to the Mesta Park Neighborhood Association tonight at 7 at the Sieber. Only open to Mesta Park folks, but if you are one please attend. I'm not sure I can make it, and I want someone pro-urbanization to be there as a counter to the vocal NIMBY folks who have already begun making their voices heard.

There will be a presentation by the Gutes fols to the Mesta Park Neighborhood Association tonight at 7 at the Sieber. Only open to Mesta Park folks, but if you are one please attend. I'm not sure I can make it, and I want someone pro-urbanization to be there as a counter to the vocal NIMBY folks who have already begun making their voices heard.

Why are they doing this now?

They received approval from the Urban Design Committee last month, with the exception of the front patio.

Maybe they just want the Mesta folks, their neighbors, to hear from their mouth what is actually going to happen. Best way to assuage fears is to communicate.

Maybe they just want the Mesta folks, their neighbors, to hear from their mouth what is actually going to happen. Best way to assuage fears is to communicate.

So reasonable! Can't possibly be true ;)

Just wondering why they didn't do it before their approval hearing.

Guyutes goes before the planning commission tomorrow at 1:30. If there are any supporters out there, Guyutes would love for you to come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!