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Praedura
11-07-2013, 03:57 PM
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bluedogok
11-07-2013, 06:46 PM
A friend of mine owns it, it was pretty much in the same shape when his father acquired it a long time ago. The brewery idea was one of a few different concepts that have been considered.

Urbanized
11-07-2013, 07:37 PM
Yeah, at one point the owners of COOP really wanted to be in there, but couldn't get any traction for whatever reason. Now they are expanding in a new space near the airport.

bluedogok
11-07-2013, 07:55 PM
I don't really know what happened to that deal. I've had some ideas for the building but I know he has been busy with other projects. I think part of the issue is managing it (and other property) for his mother since his father passed away and not having ultimate decision making authority.

Urbanized
11-07-2013, 08:19 PM
I think it was just too big of a fish to fry. COOP desperately needs to expand. They are beyond maxed in their current space. The laundry would have needed...well, just look at those photos. The space they are going into is a large, dry, white boxed space and won't take a lot to get them up to speed doing what they do, making beer.

However, I think they would still like ultimately to be in a space like that one and believe they see this current move as a stepping stone. They understand the tourism appeal of a brewery, and a location in the inner city makes more sense for something like that.

Praedura
11-07-2013, 11:04 PM
Interesting info, bluedog and Urbanized. Thanks.

I hope that whenever it does get renovated (someday) that the neon sign is preserved. That is just too great to lose.

This area is a bit orphaned from the main action right now. But 5-10 years from now, it could be a completely different story as the revitalization effect spreads west.

metro
11-13-2013, 10:27 PM
I agree, I drive by this building nearly daily since I live and work nearby. It's great architecture and would love to see it renovated into lofts, a business incubator, or a brewery/bier garten. Hope the sign stays!

Mel
11-13-2013, 10:49 PM
Def the sign has to be preserved. I had no idea how bad the inside was. Good but sad pics.

PhiAlpha
11-14-2013, 05:11 AM
I think it was just too big of a fish to fry. COOP desperately needs to expand. They are beyond maxed in their current space. The laundry would have needed...well, just look at those photos. The space they are going into is a large, dry, white boxed space and won't take a lot to get them up to speed doing what they do, making beer.

However, I think they would still like ultimately to be in a space like that one and believe they see this current move as a stepping stone. They understand the tourism appeal of a brewery, and a location in the inner city makes more sense for something like that.

I talked to one of the owners a few months ago and that is exactly what he said. They are moving out west of town for the time being because they desperately need space but their 5 year plan calls for them to find a new location in the core. He mentioned south of the river or in core to shore, but I'm sure they're looking everywhere.

HangryHippo
11-14-2013, 07:40 AM
I talked to one of the owners a few months ago and that is exactly what he said. They are moving out west of town for the time being because they desperately need space but their 5 year plan calls for them to find a new location in the core. He mentioned south of the river or in core to shore, but I'm sure they're looking everywhere.

It really would be amazing if they could get this building up and running again and put the brewery in here. Is it too much work for them to ever take on or did they just not want to do it at this point?

Urbanized
11-14-2013, 08:07 AM
Like I said in my previous post, they are in the brewing business, and right now they can't brew enough beer to keep up with incredible demand. They are currently able to can only three of their beers, but want (and have demand) to can nearly all of them. They also plan on expanding to out-of-state markets. They need a large new facility YESTERDAY. They don't have time for a back-from-the-dead remodel that would likely take a year or two, and which would also require much more complicated financing.

They have already leased new space, are under construction, and taking delivery on new equipment. That particular train has left the station.

HangryHippo
11-14-2013, 08:41 AM
Like I said in my previous post, they are in the brewing business, and right now they can't brew enough beer to keep up with incredible demand. They are currently able to can only three of their beers, but want (and have demand) to can nearly all of them. They also plan on expanding to out-of-state markets. They need a large new facility YESTERDAY. They don't have time for a back-from-the-dead remodel that would likely take a year or two, and which would also require much more complicated financing.

They have already leased new space, are under construction, and taking delivery on new equipment. That particular train has left the station.

Well, that's a damn shame. But glad to hear that their business is booming. Always nice to see the locals performing well.

PhiAlpha
11-14-2013, 08:59 AM
Like I said in my previous post, they are in the brewing business, and right now they can't brew enough beer to keep up with incredible demand. They are currently able to can only three of their beers, but want (and have demand) to can nearly all of them. They also plan on expanding to out-of-state markets. They need a large new facility YESTERDAY. They don't have time for a back-from-the-dead remodel that would likely take a year or two, and which would also require much more complicated financing.

They have already leased new space, are under construction, and taking delivery on new equipment. That particular train has left the station.

Hard to believe they've grown that much in such a short time. Great success story.

CCOKC
11-15-2013, 12:54 PM
Now I understand why I can't get the DNR all of the time. I love that beer.

Pete
10-24-2014, 11:00 AM
This was just posted on Steve's chat by the owner of this property:



Comment From Sean Brownlee
So, Steve and maybe others are finally seeing the opportunity for something to happen along Classen and for the Sunshine Laundry Building, I have been hoping for this to happen. The only offers or proposals I have received were from investors trying to steal a great opportunity that has just now come to fruition. I am very open to reasonable proposals and have opened an email SunshineLaundryOKC@yahoo.com. Please inquire, ask questions, and start a conversation. I will keep Steve and this blog aware of our progress. Interesting that you mentioned Patient Money earlier…

yukong
07-24-2015, 01:00 PM
Any updates on this beautiful old building? With all the action at this intersection (21C and others) has that helped create interest in this place? As others have said, I would love to see new life in this neat old building.

dankrutka
10-15-2015, 09:47 PM
Getting redeveloped: Sun will shine again at Oklahoma City's Sunshine Laundry building | NewsOK.com (http://m.newsok.com/article/5453858?utm_source=NewsOK.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ShareBar-Twitter)

ljbab728
10-15-2015, 10:00 PM
This is great news and they are established developers, which gives confidence in it being done well.


Ben Sellers, Jonathan Dodson and David Wanzer, the trio redeveloping the Tower Theater in Uptown, purchased the property at 1000 NW 1 on Thursday for $725,000. The three intend to start renovations in 2016 with completion in one year.

Pete
10-16-2015, 05:39 AM
FANTASTIC news!

This makes me very happy... Classen is really heating up and there is still so many other projects that could be done there.

These three guys are becoming a real force in urban OKC.

AP
10-16-2015, 06:11 AM
Super excited about this. Considering the state of the building, does one year timeline seem a little accelerated?

Pete
10-16-2015, 06:13 AM
It seems every commercial project is budgeted at one year and then they take as long as they take.

Very excited to see the plans from Jeremy Gardner who not only does great work but seems to be getting tons of it from urban developers these days.

Thomas Vu
10-16-2015, 07:21 AM
*insert obligatory seinfeld reference here*

Urbanized
10-16-2015, 07:28 AM
When I mentioned in the thread about the old Triples that there was another major, transformative transaction pending on Classen this the one I was talking about. They've been working on this deal for some months. Super-exciting.

David
10-16-2015, 07:42 AM
What an excellently timed and located development. A single block up from the 21c Museum Hotel (http://www.okctalk.com/showwiki.php?title=21c%20Museum%20Hotel) & Residences at 21c developments, timed such that they might be able to quickly take advantage of the upcoming legal changes, this could be a home run.

Spartan
10-19-2015, 09:06 PM
The law hasn't changed yet. I'm impressed by how forward-thinking this team is, but it seems like this is an awesome project for later.

As a native Okie I'll believe liquor reform when I see it. No Supreme Court coming to our rescue on this.

Pete
11-13-2015, 10:34 AM
An article in the Journal Record by Molly Fleming said that the operator of the taproom and restaurant in this project will be Joel Irby from Colorado.

He is currently involved in the Avery Brewing Company in Boulder.

Age Verification - Avery Brewing Company (http://averybrewing.com/)

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/avery1.png

Pete
03-02-2016, 12:27 PM
Just got my hands on a full rendering for the renovation.

They will reuse the existing and awesome casement windows. And, of course, chop down the trees growing inside and put a roof on the place.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sunshine030216.jpg

Urbanized
03-02-2016, 12:35 PM
Fantastic. The place is in such good hands. One of my 3 or 4 favorite buildings in OKC.

David
03-02-2016, 12:37 PM
Oh hell yeah.

John Knight
03-02-2016, 12:49 PM
I cannot express how pleased I am with the progress this city has made in the craft beer industry. It is not just the increased quantity that I enjoy, but rather the quality that each brewery distributes. Per capita, Oklahoma City is really putting itself on the map (pun intended).

Plutonic Panda
03-02-2016, 01:04 PM
That part along Classen would be great for a protected bike lane and a patio out there. About time OKC sees some good news! This will be super cool.

_Cramer_
03-02-2016, 02:44 PM
I'm tickled, this is going to be awesome!

Pete
03-02-2016, 05:39 PM
I cannot express how pleased I am with the progress this city has made in the craft beer industry. It is not just the increased quantity that I enjoy, but rather the quality that each brewery distributes. Per capita, Oklahoma City is really putting itself on the map (pun intended).

Agree. The local breweries have made me a big beer fan.

Sitting here drinking a Coop Native Amber, in fact.

Urbanized
03-02-2016, 05:48 PM
^^^^^^
My go-to.

Pete
03-03-2016, 04:01 AM
OKCTalk - A closer look at the Sunshine Cleaners renovation (http://www.okctalk.com/content/253-closer-look-sunshine-cleaners-renovation.html)

David
03-03-2016, 07:29 AM
Coming from a position of having really no clue how the current laws restrict breweries, how much could those plans be effected by the potential legal changes coming down? If nothing changes for another few years, will they have to adjust what they're planning?

onthestrip
03-03-2016, 08:46 AM
Coming from a position of having really no clue how the current laws restrict breweries, how much could those plans be effected by the potential legal changes coming down? If nothing changes for another few years, will they have to adjust what they're planning?

Of all the different bills being talked about, I dont think any of them allow breweries to sell packaged products straight to the public from their brewery. Which is dumb and it inhibits them.

warreng88
03-03-2016, 12:09 PM
Just got my hands on a full rendering for the renovation.

They will reuse the existing and awesome casement windows. And, of course, chop down the trees growing inside and put a roof on the place.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sunshine030216.jpg

They need to put a beard on the guy on the bike so it will look like Dodson...

Pete, do you know why no sidewalks are depicted along Classen in this rendering? Is it a ROW issue and they expect the city to add them at a later date?

Uptowner
03-03-2016, 05:11 PM
Sidewalks ^^^Probably because they don't want to hook themselves on having to build sidewalks, whether it's a classen streetscape project or part of their impact charge. The architects wouldn't want the developers to have to build sidewalks simply because it was in the rendering/plan. The zoning Dept takes great issue with details like that when reviewing and inspecting plans/finished product.

Tritone
03-05-2016, 11:15 AM
Glad to see this! A lot of the old OKC I grew up with in the 50s and 60s is gone now (some of it needs to be gone); it's nice to see a few of the old landmarks restored/repurposed. Kind of like seeing an old friend when I get back to town. I read yesterday/today that the sign will remain (not news to many of you who have digits on the city's pulse) and that pleases me as well. I guess the trees inside do need to go!

Pete
03-05-2016, 02:19 PM
Took these today...

The last two of the inside are the southeast corner of the building and quite a bit lower than the rest of the structure. This is where the restaurant & bar will go.

The second floor that you see will be offices for the Pivot Group. The rest of the ground floor will be the brewery and taproom.



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Tritone
03-05-2016, 06:11 PM
Great new pix, Pete. Watch your step!

Uptowner
03-05-2016, 07:19 PM
What happened to the boat? it's seems to be replaced by a completely stripped pickup cab. They've cleaned that place up A LOT.

Dustin
03-05-2016, 09:50 PM
Oh boy! They have a lot of work to do.

Tritone
03-06-2016, 06:04 PM
It's a fixer upper, that's for sure!

onthestrip
03-22-2016, 12:53 PM
Did I read correctly recently that they received approval for something like $550,000 in TIF funds? If so, why? If the numbers werent going to work, then why did they purchase the building?

TIF money for new construction is one thing, TIF money for a massive and important project like First National or 21C is another but for this? I think the city might be getting a little too generous.

HangryHippo
03-22-2016, 01:06 PM
I think the city might be getting a little too generous.

I couldn't disagree with you more. TIF going to historic preservation is a very worthy cause IMO. I'd be far more concerned with the city subsidizing the next strip mall development over a rehab of this nature.

kevin lee
03-22-2016, 01:30 PM
Your right but if they had a plan "B" where they did a demo and new build, you would have had hundreds of preservationists telling them how they're destroying our history (even though the property is blight in its highest form). So its damned if they do and damned if they dont.

Pete
03-22-2016, 01:34 PM
Feelings about TIF aside, this project is as deserving as any and the award is in line with other grants.

HOT ROD
03-22-2016, 03:39 PM
Also, I would tend to agree with the city if their premise for granting TIF was to ensure the momentum of development did not stall in this side of the city. Recall that the city has made tremendous effort in revitalizing Film Row - now this will be an extension (making the district bigger) so it is in the city's best interest to ensure this blighted development happens.

I do agree, however, that new or future rehabs should be better scrutinized but as Pete said, they're no less deserving than anything developers in Bricktown or AAlley receive as this helps the city core as a whole which is ultimately what we all want.

Pete
03-22-2016, 03:53 PM
There is still a bunch of TIF money in the downtown TIF (TIF #2) because they originally projected to collect $47 million and have now raised that to $170 million and we will likely exceed that as well.

There is still $63 million to spend out of TIF #2, and even more if the recently-revised $170 MM target is exceeded.

HOT ROD
03-22-2016, 03:56 PM
good thing OGE/Clayco wasn't allowed to come steal it all. ...

warreng88
04-13-2016, 07:01 AM
Renovation rewards: OKC Council approves $900,000 in TIF funds

By: Brian Brus The Journal Record April 12, 2016

OKLAHOMA CITY – Two run-down buildings in Oklahoma City would never have been recognized for their potential, if not for historic tax credits and tax increment financing, developer David Wanzer said.

The City Council unanimously approved nearly $1 million in TIF funds Tuesday to refurbish the Townhouse Apartments and convert the Sunshine Cleaners building into mixed-use. Work is slated to begin this summer, with completion in the first three months of 2017.

Wanzer said he was first attracted to the old neon sign outside the dry cleaner building at 1012 NW First St. The building lacks a roof now; trees are growing inside it. But its architecture is fascinating, he said, because of weight-bearing wall placement. Wanzer described the site as repeatedly straining city services.

He wants to convert the building into 17,000 square feet of leasable mixed-use space to match the purpose of the Downtown/MAPS Tax Increment Finance district, or TIF. In March, the community review committee agreed with his idea and recommended a budget allocation of $550,000.

For the townhouse project, 627 NW Fifth St., Wanzer wants to redesign the historic 14,700-square-foot building – “a flophouse,” he called it – into a 17-unit residential development. The review committee also supported the idea and recommended that the council provide $350,000 in TIF assistance.

“We would not have tackled either of these projects without the ability to tap into historic tax credits,” he said.

Councilman Pete White said lawmakers should note the projects.

“Hopefully, the state Legislature will pay attention to this presentation and not do away with something that’s vital to historic development,” he said. “This is a perfect example of two buildings that would continue to fall into further ruin until they were demolished … that will be really important to the redevelopment of downtown.”

Wanzer said a fellow businessman once questioned how he was able to spend more money on the project than the building’s market appraisal. That gap is being closed by government aid, he said.

Cathy O’Connor, executive director of the Oklahoma City Urban Renewal Authority, said she is often approached by developers who want TIF funds but don’t understand their purpose or who intend to flip a property quickly for profit. O’Connor said many of them are “pretty crazy ideas. … They just don’t make any sense.”

Such proposals are turned away on a case-by-case basis, she said. Councilman Ed Shadid asked for recordings of such conversations to confirm the process.

Pete
04-15-2016, 10:53 AM
The Pivot Project trio hosted a really nice event at this structure last night, a "pre construction" celebration.

I met Joel Irby who is the brewer putting in StoneCloud Brewery and Taproom into that building, and he's a sharp young guy. They provided several types of free beer and I thought it was excellent.

Joel said he thought it would take them until the first part of next year to get the building ready for him to bring in his equipment and start to get set up. In the meantime, he's working on his recipes and test batches.

The Pivot guys will have the offices on the 2nd level and they have not yet leased the restaurant space in the back, which is super cool. I'm sure they'll find someone as this project moves along.

Pretty cool to stand in that building, look out the windows and see 21c and everything that is happening around it. That are of west downtown is going to be super cool very soon and you can bet Film Row will start to fill in between Classen and the CBD.

bige4ou
05-05-2016, 09:04 AM
I drive by this place almost everyday. Recently they have had the windows out along Classen where you can see in. Have to say I think this place is going to be a diamond. Looks like such a cool layout plus the combo of 21C right across the street is going to make this area amazing. Is there any renderings of this yet? Excited to see how they transform it.

Pete
05-05-2016, 11:23 AM
Here is the rendering from up thread:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sunshine030216.jpg

HangryHippo
05-05-2016, 11:56 AM
Pete, what is the story on the building just south of this in the rendering?

OKCisOK4me
05-05-2016, 12:37 PM
I don't know why I've skipped over this thread but with everything else that's going on in the Film Row area and the Main Street Arcade, this area will soon rival Bricktown!

Pete
05-05-2016, 12:43 PM
Pete, what is the story on the building just south of this in the rendering?

The properties highlighted below are all owned by Rick Warren, who owns a local construction company.

I ran into him one day as I was taking photos of 21c and he said he wants to lease all that property and will renovate if he can find the right tenants.



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mainblock.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mainblock2.jpg

OKCisOK4me
05-05-2016, 04:35 PM
Someone needs to do something with that Deep Rock gas station. Love that building.