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Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 12:12 AM
Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus vie for attention at MTV's Video Music Awards

Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus vie for attention at MTV's Video Music Awards | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/08/25/lady-gaga-miley-cyrus-vie-for-attention-at-mtv-video-music-awards/)

NEW YORK – Miley Cyrus made Lady Gaga look surprisingly tame as the pop stars opened the MTV Video Music Awards.

Gaga changed costumes four times Sunday night during her first return to the stage since hip surgery as she performed her new single "Applause." It was a predictably unpredictable appearance for Gaga, who seemed to pump in boos over the sound system as she opened the song in a white nun's habit and square headdress. By the time she finished the song, she was surrounded by unitard-clad male dancers and wearing a long blonde wig and a thong bikini decorated in shells.

But it was Cyrus who stole the show. She immediately kicked things up well beyond provocative, appearing on stage with a multitude of dancing teddy bears in a bodysuit adorned with a cartoon character. She twerked, changed into a flesh-colored bikini, ran a fan's foam finger along her privates as Robin Thicke appeared on stage to perform "Blurred Lines," then gave the singer a lap dance. The wild child also slapped a girl's butt onstage.

"Miley better go get a pregnancy test after all that grinding," Kevin Hart joked afterward.


I watched just a few mins of it before I literally had to go throw up in the bathroom. What happened to MTV? What a sickening and horrible display especially to all of the young impressionable people watching. I remember back in the day when "musical acts" regardless of their looks had the musical knowledge and chops to back up all the flash and bang. Now its all flash/bang with no to little substance.
Everytime I see something like this im convinced we are de-volving.
Belch.........

Maybe when they warned us about Elvis they were onto something.

Plutonic Panda
08-27-2013, 01:24 AM
She turned me on. Don't know about everyone else.

dcsooner
08-27-2013, 02:21 AM
Don't Care at all, did not watch

catch22
08-27-2013, 04:49 AM
Pretty disgusting performance.

What a great role model for young women.

bandnerd
08-27-2013, 05:15 AM
She's 20. Have you ever seen 21 year-old ladies at the club? Not much different. People are talking about her, and that's the whole point of performing at an event like the VMA's -- creating publicity and relevance. I don't think Cyrus has ever said, "I want to be a role model for young women."

But seriously, you "literally" had to go throw up? I doubt that.

The VMA's have a history of provocative performances (Prince's assless chaps, Madonna's "Like a Virgin," etc.). Why would this year be any different? Don't get me wrong, her performance wasn't my cuppa tea, but I'm not offended by it. I chose to watch it. I didn't have to, and neither did anyone else, except for the people in the live audience at the show.

catch22
08-27-2013, 05:18 AM
She's 20. Have you ever seen 21 year-old ladies at the club? Not much different. People are talking about her, and that's the whole point of performing at an event like the VMA's -- creating publicity and relevance. I don't think Cyrus has ever said, "I want to be a role model for young women."

But seriously, you "literally" had to go throw up? I doubt that.

The VMA's have a history of provocative performances (Prince's assless chaps, Madonna's "Like a Virgin," etc.). Why would this year be any different? Don't get me wrong, her performance wasn't my cuppa tea, but I'm not offended by it. I chose to watch it. I didn't have to, and neither did anyone else, except for the people in the live audience at the show.

The 20 year old girls I know are disgusted by her performance. What I am concerned about are the 10-15 year old girls who look up to her. And not just her, there's plenty of others.

Just the facts
08-27-2013, 05:36 AM
Prediction - Miley Cyrus will be dead within 5 years. She will sadly join a long list of rich and famous child stars who had no one to help guide them into responsible adulthood.

bandnerd
08-27-2013, 05:43 AM
The 20 year old girls I know are disgusted by her performance. What I am concerned about are the 10-15 year old girls who look up to her. And not just her, there's plenty of others.

I don't know any 10-15 year olds who look up to her. Most of my students were shocked by her performance, and not in a good way.

bandnerd
08-27-2013, 05:47 AM
Also, don't you all think it was likely that the producers at MTV were telling her to ham it up, to bump her performance to make it even more...well, whatever it was? It's about selling music, creating relevance and getting ratings. She probably doesn't care if she's a role model -- she's making a ton of money.

The song that she sang, "We won't stop," is an anthem about basically doing whatever you want without worrying about others judging you, being yourself, loving who you want. Pretty sure that's what her performance was -- Cyrus doing whatever it is that she does.

poe
08-27-2013, 05:49 AM
This thread can be combined with the "Bored teenagers and trouble" thread.

RadicalModerate
08-27-2013, 06:29 AM
But first . . . A salute to Miley's Dad:

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Just the facts
08-27-2013, 06:49 AM
If we are going to drag Weird Al into this....

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mkjeeves
08-27-2013, 07:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8UUD3zyu7Ek

RadicalModerate
08-27-2013, 07:08 AM
I love the brief shot of the audience in the Lady Gagger parody . . .
It's dead-on.

I stopped watching MTV when they stopped showing sensible, down-to-earth, good-taste, videos like this . . .
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. . . so I had no desire to watch the awards show under discussion.

Doesn't Tom Petty look even more like Bradley Manning in drag than Joni Mitchell does?
It's eerie.

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 07:10 AM
How many of you actually watched the VMA? I didn't but I watched a replay of her performance and wasn't shocked or didn't literally have to go throw up in the bathroom. If that's the case then Dirty Dancing probably gave you ulcers. It was a performance to get everybody's attention, get her name in the news for a while and to make old folks gasp... it worked.

Just the facts
08-27-2013, 07:15 AM
I am happy to say I didn't watch it. MTV could drop of the Earth and I wouldn't know it for 2 weeks. What I can't figure out is why do you have degrade yourself to get in the news. Why not get in the news and generate attention by doing something positive? I guess in the end, you have to use the tools you were given and if this is all she has to work with, it will be a short ride.

td25er
08-27-2013, 07:19 AM
How many of you actually watched the VMA? I didn't but I watched a replay of her performance and wasn't shocked or didn't literally have to go throw up in the bathroom. If that's the case then Dirty Dancing probably gave you ulcers. It was a performance to get everybody's attention, get her name in the news for a while and to make old folks gasp... it worked.

The outrage is kind of hilarious. They are asking "why". LOL, she did it because people are predictable and she got attention to remain relevant. Network (free) tv has all kinds of sex scenes and violence. Heck "24" had torture scenes including waterboarding.

Anonymous.
08-27-2013, 07:20 AM
Do people really think these things are spontaneous?

This show is a very extensive production. Hours and hours of rehearsal and writing is done for the performances and it is all part of the plan. It's weird to me how people are reacting to the performance, buying into exactly what the producers wanted. Talking about the VMAs, and getting people to search for it on the internet. The era of hashtag marketing is extremely easy when everyone and their grandma is talking about the same thing.

To the OP, do you know what the term literally means?

Rover
08-27-2013, 07:36 AM
How many of you actually watched the VMA? I didn't but I watched a replay of her performance and wasn't shocked or didn't literally have to go throw up in the bathroom. If that's the case then Dirty Dancing probably gave you ulcers. It was a performance to get everybody's attention, get her name in the news for a while and to make old folks gasp... it worked.

It was crude, classless and vulgar. Gasp....no. Disgusted yes. There are always people willing to do all kinds of things for money. Just sad that so many let their children view this behavior and see nothing wrong with it or with Miley being an idol to these kids.

Martin
08-27-2013, 07:38 AM
did you see this guy's performance last night? it was such a vulgar display that it had to be filmed from the waist up. what a sickening and shameful thing to broadcast, especially for the impressionable children who were watching. i literally had to throw up. twice. i remember back in the day when truly great artists relied on their talent. sadly, this generation seems to only value flash with little substance... -M

http://www.edsullivan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Elvis-Presleys-last-performance-on-The-Ed-Sullivan-Show-1024x835.jpg

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 07:40 AM
It was crude, classless and vulgar. Gasp....no. Disgusted yes. There are always people willing to do all kinds of things for money. Just sad that so many let their children view this behavior and see nothing wrong with it or with Miley being an idol to these kids.

Did you watch it?

Romulack
08-27-2013, 07:41 AM
If she were a fish she'd be a carp.

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 07:42 AM
did you see this guy's performance last night? it was such a vulgar display that it had to be filmed from the waist up. what a sickening and shameful thing to broadcast, especially for the impressionable children who were watching. i literally had to throw up. twice. i remember back in the day when truly great artists relied on their talent. sadly, this generation seems to only value flash with little substance... -M



and to think some of our teens looked up to this guy as an idol and role model... disgusting

Stew
08-27-2013, 07:47 AM
The older generations shocked by the antics of a younger generation. Oh my what's the world coming to.

BoulderSooner
08-27-2013, 08:23 AM
What happened to MTV?

nothing it has always been looking for shock value

venture
08-27-2013, 08:36 AM
Who would have thought Gaga would be the tame one these days?

She got what she wanted...people talking about her. Congrats on helping her succeed. :) Mmm hit it on the nose too...the outrage over Elvis was huge back in the day (WELLLLL before my time mind you). I'm not comparing Mylie to Elvis, just that it is all perspective. Was this really unexpected? We are talking about the same performer that used a stripper pole during a performance at the Kids Choice Awards on Nickelodeon a few years back.

Plutonic Panda
08-27-2013, 08:43 AM
It was crude, classless and vulgar. Gasp....no. Disgusted yes. There are always people willing to do all kinds of things for money. Just sad that so many let their children view this behavior and see nothing wrong with it or with Miley being an idol to these kids.Maybe the kids should be encouraged to find a different role model. As stated here before, who has said Miley should be a role model for younger kids? Just because she was on a Disney show, she should have some moral obligation to be an appropriate role model for kids?

adaniel
08-27-2013, 08:51 AM
I saw it and yeah it was pretty bad. Not because she was scantily dressed though. If you want to wear practically nothing at least be artistic or sexy about it. You can't "twerk" with flabby butt cheeks squeezed in some awkward looking latex thing. I think I was more upset by the fact she had zero rhythm more than anything else. Heck Maddona and Lady Gaga have probably done way worse, but at least they come off somewhat artistic and look good doing it.

By the way, what's up with these "the youngs are messed up" threads lately? I should probably start a thread entitled "Bored Grandpas" to balance everything out :-).

Jersey Boss
08-27-2013, 09:04 AM
Maybe the kids should be encouraged to find a different role model. As stated here before, who has said Miley should be a role model for younger kids? Just because she was on a Disney show, she should have some moral obligation to be an appropriate role model for kids?

From my perspective the only folks who have any obligation to be role models are parents. Miley, Charles Barkley, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, etc. have no obligation, moral or otherwise to be a role mode for kids.

venture
08-27-2013, 09:04 AM
I saw it and yeah it was pretty bad. Not because she was scantily dressed though. If you want to wear practically nothing at least be artistic or sexy about it. You can't "twerk" with flabby butt cheeks squeezed in some awkward looking latex thing. I think I was more upset by the fact she had zero rhythm more than anything else. Heck Maddona and Lady Gaga have probably done way worse, but at least they come off somewhat artistic and look good doing it.

By the way, what's up with these "the youngs are messed up" threads lately? I should probably start a thread entitled "Bored Grandpas" to balance everything out :-).

"Oldtimers" is kicking in and they are forgetting about the "scandals" of their youth. :)

Just the facts
08-27-2013, 09:09 AM
Maybe the kids should be encouraged to find a different role model. As stated here before, who has said Miley should be a role model for younger kids? Just because she was on a Disney show, she should have some moral obligation to be an appropriate role model for kids?

You hit the nail on head - and guess what - kids do find new role models which why is Miley is turning to stunts like this to stay 'relevant'. The 'Disney' model is a hard path for the 'child star'. When Miley (or any number of other Disney stars) move beyond the age demographic Disney targets they discard them and get someone new. The former 'relevant' star now finds themselves with no audience as their former tinybooper fans grow up with out them. Since these stars were 'made' by the Disney machine, they are left totally abandoned once Disney turns their attention to a new child. Throw in some crappy parents and presto - Miley Circus.

The next girl to 'outrage' us is Bridgit Claire Mendler. Just give her about 3 more years.

rezman
08-27-2013, 09:19 AM
I never watch that junk, and who gives a crap about Miley Cyrus?.

I caught a quick glimpse of the story on News Channel 4's "The Rant" as we were heading out to the library with my daughter. ... Kevin Ogle was comparing Miley Cyrus to Elvis Presley... as if there could be any comparison.

Elvis Presley had more class at twenty years old than Miley Cyrus ever will.

Plus ... Elvis could actually sing.

Rover
08-27-2013, 09:41 AM
and to think some of our teens looked up to this guy as an idol and role model... disgusting

To compare the two is just blind ignorance. It is the continual degradation and the acceptance that is worrisome. If you can't tell the difference between the two and how far it has come, not to mention how far it will go, then you are part of the generation that sees nothing wrong with declining values. Elvis was crude for the time. Miley is crude for this time. I guess we will wait to see how low we go and what we consider crude and vulgur in 20 more years. Your point only emphasizes that as a society we are much more accepting of much more vulgar activity.

I know this is an old fashioned view, but I don't think morals and proper behavior ever go out of style. But there will always be parents who don't care enough or know enough to teach and reinforce good behavior for their children. It is just sad.

Rover
08-27-2013, 09:48 AM
"Oldtimers" is kicking in and they are forgetting about the "scandals" of their youth. :)

It is not that we are forgetting about the scandals of our youth. Many of us did stupid things. That doesn't make what is happening now smart or right.

Bunty
08-27-2013, 09:52 AM
Do people really think these things are spontaneous?

This show is a very extensive production. Hours and hours of rehearsal and writing is done for the performances and it is all part of the plan. It's weird to me how people are reacting to the performance, buying into exactly what the producers wanted. Talking about the VMAs, and getting people to search for it on the internet. The era of hashtag marketing is extremely easy when everyone and their grandma is talking about the same thing.

To the OP, do you know what the term literally means?

At least no producer thought it would look even cuter, if the guy she sang with was also very sparsely dressed in flesh color to match her.

Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 10:07 AM
Do people really think these things are spontaneous?

This show is a very extensive production. Hours and hours of rehearsal and writing is done for the performances and it is all part of the plan. It's weird to me how people are reacting to the performance, buying into exactly what the producers wanted. Talking about the VMAs, and getting people to search for it on the internet. The era of hashtag marketing is extremely easy when everyone and their grandma is talking about the same thing.

To the OP, do you know what the term literally means?

Yes....
And it could have just been the 14 slices of pizza IDK.

Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 10:10 AM
Prediction - Miley Cyrus will be dead within 5 years. She will sadly join a long list of rich and famous child stars who had no one to help guide them into responsible adulthood.

Within 5-6 yrs she will be dead, in porn or completely forgotten about.
And if she waits 7 more years she can be a full fledged member of the "27 club".

MadMonk
08-27-2013, 10:31 AM
Didn't watch it live, but saw her performance after all the buzz. The whole shock-value performance for attention bit is tired, but it got people talking about her like it was intended to do. No publicity is bad publicity, right? My overall take-away - she seems a little desperate for relevance.

Bellaboo
08-27-2013, 10:55 AM
She's just trying to get a little attention by being raunchy...... she's just an ugly little twit in retrospect, and her actions made her worse.

venture
08-27-2013, 11:11 AM
To compare the two is just blind ignorance. It is the continual degradation and the acceptance that is worrisome. If you can't tell the difference between the two and how far it has come, not to mention how far it will go, then you are part of the generation that sees nothing wrong with declining values. Elvis was crude for the time. Miley is crude for this time. I guess we will wait to see how low we go and what we consider crude and vulgur in 20 more years. Your point only emphasizes that as a society we are much more accepting of much more vulgar activity.

I know this is an old fashioned view, but I don't think morals and proper behavior ever go out of style. But there will always be parents who don't care enough or know enough to teach and reinforce good behavior for their children. It is just sad.

I'm not condoning what she did at all...and think it was pretty raunchy. However, that fact that it is getting so much negative attention shows that morals aren't really declining at an alarming rate. People still don't approve but it gets the attention and that's what they want. Not to pick on him, but look at Panda's response...he got turned on. He's an 18/19 year old that is pretty will in the age range of her target audience. She doesn't care what those of us over 30 are going to think. If her performance can make the teenage boys feels all tingly down there and continue to secure her female audience by being a "rebel woman" (or whatever you want to call it)...she'll keep doing it. It all comes down to sex appeal. At some point society will grow up and mature and move past the giggly phase. When we get to the point where society as a whole can reject performance like this, but also desexualize a woman's breasts and remove the taboo of basic human bodily functions...then we'll be a whole lot better. Then perhaps we'll see performances like this get shunned and artists move away from resorting to such tactics.

At the end of the day it is our fault because she is playing to what the audience wants.

Jake
08-27-2013, 11:44 AM
I wasn't shocked because it was provocative, I was shocked at how talentless Miley Cyrus is.

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 11:44 AM
Within 5-6 yrs she will be dead, in porn or completely forgotten about.
And if she waits 7 more years she can be a full fledged member of the "27 club".

Why because she's an enterainer and all entertainers die at 25 or become porn stars? I have a hunch you've never listened to MC or watch MTV so not sure why you're so worked up and confident of her demise in 5 years. Next thing you know is she'll be getting a tattoo *gasp*

Plutonic Panda
08-27-2013, 12:06 PM
I'm not condoning what she did at all...and think it was pretty raunchy. However, that fact that it is getting so much negative attention shows that morals aren't really declining at an alarming rate. People still don't approve but it gets the attention and that's what they want. Not to pick on him, but look at Panda's response...he got turned on. He's an 18/19 year old that is pretty will in the age range of her target audience. She doesn't care what those of us over 30 are going to think. If her performance can make the teenage boys feels all tingly down there and continue to secure her female audience by being a "rebel woman" (or whatever you want to call it)...she'll keep doing it. It all comes down to sex appeal. At some point society will grow up and mature and move past the giggly phase. When we get to the point where society as a whole can reject performance like this, but also desexualize a woman's breasts and remove the taboo of basic human bodily functions...then we'll be a whole lot better. Then perhaps we'll see performances like this get shunned and artists move away from resorting to such tactics.

At the end of the day it is our fault because she is playing to what the audience wants.Hey I was mentioned! lol ;)

Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 12:59 PM
Why because she's an enterainer and all entertainers die at 25 or become porn stars? I have a hunch you've never listened to MC or watch MTV so not sure why you're so worked up and confident of her demise in 5 years. Next thing you know is she'll be getting a tattoo *gasp*

You sound like a proud member of her fan club no?
It was talentless trash and void of any redeeming value for other then shock value. With any luck we can get her an early admittance to the 27 club so my eyes/ears wont be defiled like that again.
O and this is just for you.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

And as someone said long ago...."its only rock and roll"...or a pale pale imitation.

Rover
08-27-2013, 02:14 PM
At the end of the day it is our fault because she is playing to what the audience wants.

I guess the same could be said of drug dealers and pornographers.... it must be okay because some people like it. What a standard. There is no "wrong" as long as there is a crowd to see it.

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 02:16 PM
You sound like a proud member of her fan club no?
It was talentless trash and void of any redeeming value for other then shock value. With any luck we can get her an early admittance to the 27 club so my eyes/ears wont be defiled like that again.
And as someone said long ago...."its only rock and roll"...or a pale pale imitation.

Nope, I've never heard her sing before this performance but just because a person doesn't care for her music to say she'll be dead or a porn star in 5 years makes me literally go throw up in the bathroom.

kelroy55
08-27-2013, 02:17 PM
I guess the same could be said of drug dealers and pornographers.... it must be okay because some people like it. What a standard. There is no "wrong" as long as there is a crowd to see it.

and with all entertainment, if you don't like it don't watch/listen to it. There is a channel/station changer close by :)

td25er
08-27-2013, 02:46 PM
People who get worked up over something silly like the VMA's are the same people who expect teachers/coaches/nannies/etc to raise their kids for them. They want responsibility deflected onto somebody else. 90% of them are probably stuffing processed food down their child's throat every day too. Parents are the problem.

hoya
08-27-2013, 03:10 PM
I don't watch MTV, but people at work were talking about it. Someone showed me the video and I just thought it was kind of blah. Yeah it's sexual and all, but I'm actually old enough to buy real porn.

Just the facts
08-27-2013, 03:23 PM
People who get worked up over something silly like the VMA's are the same people who expect teachers/coaches/nannies/etc to raise their kids for them. They want responsibility deflected onto somebody else. 90% of them are probably stuffing processed food down their child's throat every day too. Parents are the problem.

If people weren't trying to raise their own kids why would they complain about this? I think you got it backwards. One the other hand, a good parent probably wouldn't let their kids watch MTV to begin with so maybe you do have a point. Then again - I don't know how you go from Hannah Montana to this without setting something on fire and sticking it in your mouth.

Bigrayok
08-27-2013, 03:28 PM
She got what she wanted out of it. She got a lot of publicity and has distanced herself from Hannah Montana. I am just as shocked that MTV, originally called Music Television, acutally showed something music related.

Bigray in Ok

bandnerd
08-27-2013, 04:47 PM
It was talentless trash and void of any redeeming value for other then shock value. With any luck we can get her an early admittance to the 27 club so my eyes/ears wont be defiled like that again.


Dude, no. It's never okay to wish that someone would die because you don't like their music or agree with their antics.

venture
08-27-2013, 05:07 PM
Dude, no. It's never okay to wish that someone would die because you don't like their music or agree with their antics.

Looks like we have trash of our own here with senseless comments like that. Dislike the music and person all you want. I don't care a bit about Miley. However to say it would be luck to have an individual die is just an exposure of poor character and horrible individual with no class.

venture
08-27-2013, 05:08 PM
I guess the same could be said of drug dealers and pornographers.... it must be okay because some people like it. What a standard. There is no "wrong" as long as there is a crowd to see it.

Never said it was okay or that I approved of it. So not exactly sure where your attitude to my post is coming from.

Since you brought up pornography...

Here is a Top 10 list I don't know if the State is happy to make. LOL

We are #8 in the average visit duration to adult entertainment websites...

http://gizmodo.com/heres-all-the-dirty-details-on-americas-thriving-porn-1208587525?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Mel
08-27-2013, 07:48 PM
Can't go late night tipsy walking through the internet without seeing something about this girl and her recent antics. Disney sure does seem to mess up the young people that worked for them sometimes. Lady GaGa's costume look like a unused tampon. Just not my form of entertainment.

Cocaine
08-27-2013, 09:03 PM
I just don't care about what Miley Cyrus does just ignore her and she'll go away. Like most people she looks a whole lot better with her clothes on and it wasn't that raunchy. Also it's MTV they've sucked for a long time this is the kind of trash that people should expect from MTV. It's like going to a bootie shakin contest and being surprised when you something nasty.

Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 09:29 PM
Looks like we have trash of our own here with senseless comments like that. Dislike the music and person all you want. I don't care a bit about Miley. However to say it would be luck to have an individual die is just an exposure of poor character and horrible individual with no class.

Trash you say?
Stick to your weather reports and your 64 ounce big gulps Mr holier-then-thou.

Achilleslastand
08-27-2013, 09:31 PM
Dude, no. It's never okay to wish that someone would die because you don't like their music or agree with their antics.

It was meant to be tounge in cheek and part humorous.
Lighten up.....

MWCGuy
08-27-2013, 10:23 PM
As a few others noted, it was a well rehearsed spectacle with the press hitting the airwaves as planned to make sure people are still aware that MTV is there and yes it's still producing crap like a backed up commode at a Taco Bell.

This should be nothing shocking to anyone. It won't be long and they will likely show a few live sex acts (jam packed with nudity and every bodily fluid red, brown, yellow, green and clear) on the VMA's.

Why do they do it? Because it gets people to talk about the VMA's. As they say "Your not talking good about us but, at least your talking about us. That's all that matters."

Without shock and awe, nobody would be talking about the VMA's. Just simply because they would fall in the pile with all the other awards shows that are showing almost weekly these days.

Come to think of it, there are too many awards shows these days. I am surprised there is not an Award Show Awards Show. Shouldn't the people that put award shows together be recognized for all the labor behind schmoozing and putting up with all the celebritrash.

kwhey
08-27-2013, 10:34 PM
My thoughts about Miley Cyrus...

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