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GoOKC1991
08-19-2013, 10:41 PM
http://deadspin.com/three-oklahoma-teens-allegedly-murder-baseball-player-o-1170062814


One of the worst things I have ever heard, wow

ljbab728
08-19-2013, 10:55 PM
I agree. It is extremely sad for everyone involved. I saw the interviews with the parents earlier on the news and that has to be excruciating for all of them.

catch22
08-19-2013, 11:26 PM
This is completely awful and heartbreaking.

Plutonic Panda
08-19-2013, 11:39 PM
That video doesn't look like actually ABC news footage and I'm surprised this hasn't been in News 9 or Newsok.com. Needless to say, I'm very skeptical of this story.

Wambo36
08-19-2013, 11:51 PM
It was on the 10 pm news, along with pictures of the 3 kids and a talk with one of their mothers. She said they're in a "pretend" gang, not a real one. Too bad that doesn't bring the victim back.

RIVERRAT99
08-19-2013, 11:54 PM
Do you not watch the news, it's been on local tv , the past 2 days......

Plutonic Panda
08-19-2013, 11:56 PM
It was on the 10 pm news, along with pictures of the 3 kids and a talk with one of their mothers. She said they're in a "pretend" gang, not a real one. Too bad that doesn't bring the victim back.What news channel?

Wambo36
08-20-2013, 12:14 AM
KWTV if I'm not mistaken. We were watching Under the Dome and the lead in's were right after the show.

andrew3077
08-20-2013, 12:15 AM
Australian News (http://www.news.com.au/national-news/melbourne-baseball-star-christopher-lane-dies-in-us-drive-by-shooting/story-fncynjr2-1226699511591)

Duncan News (http://duncanbanner.com/local/x865757598/Formal-charges-coming-in-shooting-death-of-Australian-man)

Achilleslastand
08-20-2013, 12:18 AM
It was on the 10 pm news, along with pictures of the 3 kids and a talk with one of their mothers. She said they're in a "pretend" gang, not a real one. Too bad that doesn't bring the victim back.

Whats a "pretend" gang?
The 3 ruffians should be drawn and quartered.

Fantastic
08-20-2013, 12:32 AM
That video doesn't look like actually ABC news footage and I'm surprised this hasn't been in News 9 or Newsok.com. Needless to say, I'm very skeptical of this story.


What news channel?

NewsOK (http://newsok.com/police-athlete-in-duncan-was-shot-killed-because-teens-were-bored/article/3873624)
KFOR (http://kfor.com/2013/08/19/international-student-gunned-down-in-duncan/)
KOCO (http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/around-oklahoma/families-of-victim-suspects-devastated-after-murder-of-exchange-student/-/12530084/21536750/-/whx7mf/-/index.html)
KWTV (http://www.news9.com/story/23177362/police-slain-ecu-baseball-player-australian-native-randomly-chosen-as-target)
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/oklahoma-police-say-australian-baseball-player-killed-on-street-because-teenagers-were-bored/2013/08/19/cc4f5dd4-092d-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html)
ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/australian-baseball-player-chris-lane-gunned-alleged-oklahoma/story?id=20000982)
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/19/police-say-teen-shot-australian-student-in-oklahoma-for-fun-it/?test=latestnews)
News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national-news/melbourne-baseball-star-christopher-lane-dies-in-us-drive-by-shooting/story-fncynjr2-1226699511591)
Duncan Banner (http://duncanbanner.com/breakingnews/x1253324019/Shooting-victim-was-Australian-national-Christopher-Lane-23)
KSWO (http://www.kswo.com/story/23177438/16-year-old-identified-as-triggerman-in-duncan-killing)
Daily Journal (http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/d9395f04ff97443faa2886d856abf710/OK--Duncan-Slaying/)
Cumberland Times-News (http://times-news.com/cnhinewsservice-all/x865757146/3-teens-charged-in-death-of-Okla-college-baseball-player)
KJRH (http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/state/australian-east-central-university-student-shot-to-death-in-duncan-three-juveniles-arrested)
Lawton Constitution (http://www.swoknews.com/news-top/area/item/9449-australian-national-killed-in-duncan)
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/chasing-his-dream-aussie-baseballer-gunned-down-in-us/story-e6frg6nf-1226700161728)

I could go on... still skeptical?

Snowman
08-20-2013, 12:43 AM
It was on the 10 pm news, along with pictures of the 3 kids and a talk with one of their mothers. She said they're in a "pretend" gang, not a real one. Too bad that doesn't bring the victim back.

It sounds like someone was pretending to them-self what the group was but it was not the teens

kwhey
08-20-2013, 04:19 AM
Strap them to a wall and let rottweilers go wild on the nuts until there is nothing left . In fact if you would do that for all major crimes, it would be a great deterrent.

kevinpate
08-20-2013, 04:32 AM
Strap them to a wall and let rottweilers go wild on the nuts until there is nothing left . In fact if you would do that for all major crimes, it would be a great deterrent.

And were the police flawless and prosecutors all above board, and all judges unbiased. all defense counsel competent, and eye witnesses beyond error and malice, you might be on to something.

However, we do not live in Imaginationland. Thus nad chomping dawgs, half starved feral cats, pits of angry snakes, stonings and videos of brutal beheadings will all be more appropriately remains means employed in less enlightened nations.


on edit: I'm addressing the "all major crimes' notion, not this or any other single incident.

Jesseda
08-20-2013, 05:10 AM
The kid said they killed two people, who was the second victim? I thought the baseball player was the only one? sorry if its a stupid question I haven't read every news article on it but what I did read it only named one victim

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 06:06 AM
NewsOK (http://newsok.com/police-athlete-in-duncan-was-shot-killed-because-teens-were-bored/article/3873624)
KFOR (http://kfor.com/2013/08/19/international-student-gunned-down-in-duncan/)
KOCO (http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/around-oklahoma/families-of-victim-suspects-devastated-after-murder-of-exchange-student/-/12530084/21536750/-/whx7mf/-/index.html)
KWTV (http://www.news9.com/story/23177362/police-slain-ecu-baseball-player-australian-native-randomly-chosen-as-target)
Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/oklahoma-police-say-australian-baseball-player-killed-on-street-because-teenagers-were-bored/2013/08/19/cc4f5dd4-092d-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html)
ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/australian-baseball-player-chris-lane-gunned-alleged-oklahoma/story?id=20000982)
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/19/police-say-teen-shot-australian-student-in-oklahoma-for-fun-it/?test=latestnews)
News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national-news/melbourne-baseball-star-christopher-lane-dies-in-us-drive-by-shooting/story-fncynjr2-1226699511591)
Duncan Banner (http://duncanbanner.com/breakingnews/x1253324019/Shooting-victim-was-Australian-national-Christopher-Lane-23)
KSWO (http://www.kswo.com/story/23177438/16-year-old-identified-as-triggerman-in-duncan-killing)
Daily Journal (http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/d9395f04ff97443faa2886d856abf710/OK--Duncan-Slaying/)
Cumberland Times-News (http://times-news.com/cnhinewsservice-all/x865757146/3-teens-charged-in-death-of-Okla-college-baseball-player)
KJRH (http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/state/australian-east-central-university-student-shot-to-death-in-duncan-three-juveniles-arrested)
Lawton Constitution (http://www.swoknews.com/news-top/area/item/9449-australian-national-killed-in-duncan)
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/chasing-his-dream-aussie-baseballer-gunned-down-in-us/story-e6frg6nf-1226700161728)

I could go on... still skeptical?Jeeze, ok. You got me. Didn't see it on News9 or Newsok last night, guess I didn't look hard enough.

kelroy55
08-20-2013, 06:29 AM
Very sad... My thoughts and prayers go out to the family's.

td25er
08-20-2013, 07:38 AM
This is disgusting. Somehow this won't be a "hate crime" because a white guy was the victim.

LocoAko
08-20-2013, 08:08 AM
Somehow this won't be a "hate crime" because a white guy was the victim.

For some reason I'm getting the impression you don't know what a hate crime is.

Terrible and sickening story.

kwhey
08-20-2013, 08:16 AM
And were the police flawless and prosecutors all above board, and all judges unbiased. all defense counsel competent, and eye witnesses beyond error and malice, you might be on to something.

However, we do not live in Imaginationland. Thus nad chomping dawgs, half starved feral cats, pits of angry snakes, stonings and videos of brutal beheadings will all be more appropriately remains means employed in less enlightened nations.


on edit: I'm addressing the "all major crimes' notion, not this or any other single incident.

Because throwing them in prison where they have TV, 3 meals a day and get to hang out in the yard is such a brutal punishment. If we would get serious with punishments here, maybe just maybe crime would downturn. Plus it is not like we are sentencing them to death. Just removing the chance for them to futher dilute the population pool.

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 08:34 AM
Because throwing them in prison where they have TV, 3 meals a day and get to hang out in the yard is such a brutal punishment. If we would get serious with punishments here, maybe just maybe crime would downturn. Plus it is not like we are sentencing them to death. Just removing the chance for them to futher dilute the population pool.

I was of the same mindset years ago - until I took some criminal justice classes, interviewed some individuals who had either spent considerable months in Oklahoma County Jail or in prison. I also correspond with a couple of people in prison now. Not to mention I've participated in countless interviews/depositions at several prisons/transfer centers/federal holding facilities/pre-release centers throughout the state.

The 'country club', lap of luxury hang out with your peeps and watch TV and lift weights prison lifestyle is 99.9% a fallacy. Do prisoners 'adapt'? Mostly. But confinement is not to be taken lightly.

If by 'serious with punishments' you mean torture or severe isolation/deprivation for those we know we will eventually return to society, then you are sadly fooling yourself.

Also, how many studies do we need to prove that harsh prison sentences and the death penalty are punishments only - not preventative.

I'm all for shorter sentences for most non-violent crimes if the sentence entails labor balanced with rehabilitation.

As for these 'pretend gang members' - If the charges prove true then very long prison sentences are in order or possibly even the death penalty. However, both possible punishments were in place long before these kids turned into killers and apparently that fact had zero impact on their decision making ability.

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Strap them to a wall and let rottweilers go wild on the nuts until there is nothing left . In fact if you would do that for all major crimes, it would be a great deterrent.I have an idea that I will withhold, but I do generally agree with you. This is an interesting case as they are minors and their brain isn't fully developed yet, assuming it ever will develop. In the end, people that commit these kinds of acts should be put down. I don't agree with physically torturing someone unless it is to get info that could save lives.

In all, I think our prison system is a joke and it needs to be focused more on rehabilitating people to get them back in society. No one, should spend life in prison. If they are a threat to society and burden to the state, they should be put down. A lot of things are illegal that shouldn't be and that is just my opinion, but would keep a lot of people from getting in trouble with that law.

Teo9969
08-20-2013, 08:39 AM
A sentence is not going to change whether or not you kill someone. Anytime you kill someone, you know that there is a good chance, if you are caught, your life is over...whether literally or figuratively.

People kill (in situations like these) because they're not stable and of sound mind. They were also not taught a good value system.

It's quite apparent that these kids value system went:

1. ....
2. Have fun
3. ...
4. Life
5. ...

They literally placed a higher value on fun than they did life. Not sure where they received/learned their prioritization of values, but it certainly is to be blamed.

kelroy55
08-20-2013, 08:39 AM
Because throwing them in prison where they have TV, 3 meals a day and get to hang out in the yard is such a brutal punishment. If we would get serious with punishments here, maybe just maybe crime would downturn. Plus it is not like we are sentencing them to death. Just removing the chance for them to futher dilute the population pool.

Yeah spending the next 60 years in an 8X10 cell being told when to eat, sleep and everything else is a piece of cake.

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 08:42 AM
Yeah spending the next 60 years in an 8X10 cell being told when to eat, sleep and everything else is a piece of cake.It comes at your expense to, don't forget that. You're paying to keep someone behind a wall for the rest of his life that won't ever be fit for society again.

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 08:54 AM
...No one, should spend life in prison. If they are a threat to society and burden to the state, they should be put down. ...

And in the numerous cases where people are exonerated years (even decades) after a conviction - what would you say to them (well, to their families, since they'll be dead under your reign)? "Oh well, we have a policy of 'putting down' those we convict of violent crimes that would otherwise result in a long prison stay."

Our justice system is an imperfect one. To take life lightly knowing the flaws within our system makes us no better than the criminals you'd seek to extinguish.

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 08:56 AM
And in the numerous cases where people are exonerated years (even decades) after a conviction - what would you say to them (well, to their families, since they'll be dead under your reign)? "Oh well, we have a policy of 'putting down' those we convict of violent crimes that would otherwise result in a long prison stay."

Our justice system is an imperfect one. To take life lightly knowing the flaws within our system makes us no better than the criminals you'd seek to extinguish.So you want to just lock people up for life knowing they will never be able to function in society again? Nothing will ever be perfect and mistakes will be made, thats life.

kevinpate
08-20-2013, 08:58 AM
...
As for these 'pretend gang members' - If the charges prove true then very long prison sentences are in order or possibly even the death penalty. ...

If the lads are under 18, then the DP is off the table. Life, either with or without possibility of parole would be the two available sentences on a murder I charge. If there are other charges laid, upon conviction those sentences could run consecutively to the murder sentence (somewhat pointless on a LWOP, but would make a difference if the MI was life, and another charge was 50 and still another 50, with the three sentences running wild as it were.

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 09:03 AM
If the lads are under 18, then the DP is off the table. Life, either with or without possibility of parole would be the two available sentences on a murder I charge. If there are other charges laid, upon conviction those sentences could run consecutively to the murder sentence (somewhat pointless on a LWOP, but would make a difference if the MI was life, and another charge was 50 and still another 50, with the three sentences running wild as it were.

Can they be certified as adults and face the DP?

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 09:09 AM
So you want to just lock people up for life knowing they will never be able to function in society again? Nothing will ever be perfect and mistakes will be made, thats life.

Uhhhhhh, yeah. Its called a civilized society. Only under very specific conditions would I support the death penalty (ex: Full confession backed up with evidence or in a case where the murderer was apprehend in the course of the murder or an individual's guilty is undeniable - which means more than a single thread of connection).

You'd seriously tell a family member whose spouse or sibling or parent was put to death because the real murderer lied and falsely testified against them that "Oh well, its an imperfect system."

People with that mindset scare the hell out of me.

I'd much rather see 100 guilty walk free than to see a single person falsely imprisoned let alone put to death.

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 09:15 AM
Uhhhhhh, yeah. Its called a civilized society. Only under very specific conditions would I support the death penalty (ex: Full confession backed up with evidence or in a case where the murderer was apprehend in the course of the murder or an individual's guilty is undeniable - which means more than a single thread of connection).

You'd seriously tell a family member whose spouse or sibling or parent was put to death because the real murderer lied and falsely testified against them that "Oh well, its an imperfect system."

People with that mindset scare the hell out of me.

I'd much rather see 100 guilty walk free than to see a single person falsely imprisoned let alone put to death.Buddy, we just disagree, it's that simple.

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 09:24 AM
Buddy, we just disagree, it's that simple.

Guess so....

One side says we should do everything within our power never to execute an innocent and the other side says "O'well its an imperfect system... but at least we got us some dead bad guys too! YeHawwwwwww!"

td25er
08-20-2013, 09:24 AM
For some reason I'm getting the impression you don't know what a hate crime is.

Terrible and sickening story.

Are you serious? If this happened to be 3 white teens who "randomly" killed a black man b/c they were bored, Jackson and Sharpton would sure as heck be calling it a hate crime or at least racially motivated.

BBatesokc
08-20-2013, 09:26 AM
Are you serious? If this happened to be 3 white teens who "randomly" killed a black man b/c they were bored, Jackson and Sharpton would sure as heck be calling it a hate crime or at least racially motivated.

I'd say those two definitely need to learn what a hate crime is. They are by no means the measure of the law.

WilliamTell
08-20-2013, 09:27 AM
I'm a jogger and this is a horrible story. Geesh.

I have a weak stomach for random crimes and Oklahoma has had a few of them over the past year.

WilliamTell
08-20-2013, 09:29 AM
Are you serious? If this happened to be 3 white teens who "randomly" killed a black man b/c they were bored, Jackson and Sharpton would sure as heck be calling it a hate crime or at least racially motivated.


Last year in Tulsa two white guys went into north Tulsa shooting and killing random people...

Where was your outrage and hysteria then?

How about law abiding people start standing up for law abiding people instead of nonsense like you posted. I could go obyi news 9 right now and post a story of a.white Guy killing 4 people(mother, sister, niece and a.baby) and there will be 10 comments, then you go onto one about a.black crime and its double the comments with references to.Obama and sharpton...move on. The hysteria is mind numbing.

Plutonic Panda
08-20-2013, 09:36 AM
Guess so....

One side says we should do everything within our power never to execute an innocent and the other side says "O'well its an imperfect system... but at least we got us some dead bad guys too! YeHawwwwwww!"We should.

crimsoncrazy
08-20-2013, 09:40 AM
What about the "Black Power" picture on one of the kid's facebook page?

RadicalModerate
08-20-2013, 10:29 AM
Because throwing them in prison where they have TV, 3 meals a day and get to hang out in the yard is such a brutal punishment.

This is the only "hanging out in the yard" that should be done in this case . . .
http://awesometalks.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/cu-young-boy-at-hanging-2-aid1648.jpg?w=470

td25er
08-20-2013, 10:30 AM
Last year in Tulsa two white guys went into north Tulsa shooting and killing random people...

Where was your outrage and hysteria then?

How about law abiding people start standing up for law abiding people instead of nonsense like you posted. I could go obyi news 9 right now and post a story of a.white Guy killing 4 people(mother, sister, niece and a.baby) and there will be 10 comments, then you go onto one about a.black crime and its double the comments with references to.Obama and sharpton...move on. The hysteria is mind numbing.

Okay, I take it back. I regret implying that Jackson, Sharpton and the media are self-serving idiots.

kevinpate
08-20-2013, 12:13 PM
Can they be certified as adults and face the DP?

Age 13 and up in OK are presumed adults on murder one, subject to reverse certification process if one seeks to boot them back to juvi status. DP however is now bright-lined at 18 years by S.CT a few years back using, IIRC. a case out of Kentucky.

on edit: was a MO case, not KY
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/U.S._Supreme_Court:_Death_penalty_for_juveniles_is _unconstitutional

kelroy55
08-20-2013, 12:15 PM
Okay, I take it back. I regret implying that Jackson, Sharpton and the media are self-serving idiots.

Too bad you don't regret trying to make it about race when the facts aren't out yet, other than they were bored.

Bellaboo
08-20-2013, 12:22 PM
What news channel?

I saw it on channel 9 and channel 4.

OKCTalker
08-20-2013, 12:30 PM
Great - the news is going around the world.
Slain Australian player mourned on 2 continents - seattlepi.com (http://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime/article/Slain-Australian-player-mourned-on-2-continents-4745191.php)
Three teens accused of murder of baseball player Chris Lane identified | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national-news/victoria/three-teens-accused-of-murder-of-baseball-player-chris-lane-identified/story-fnii5sms-1226700172461)
'We Were Bored ... So We Decided to Kill Somebody' - Steve Clemons - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/we-were-bored-so-we-decided-to-kill-somebody/278858/)
Australian baseball player fatally shot in Okla. Pictures - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10017922.html)
Police: 'Bored' Oklahoma teens randomly kill Australian student - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-oklahoma-australia-20130820,0,1628182.story)
3 teens say they were 'bored', so they shot & killed Australian baseball player while he was jogging: cops - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/teenagers-allegedly-murder-college-baseball-player-boredom-article-1.1431445)
Charges expected in killing of Australian by 'bored' U.S. teenagers | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/20/us-usa-crime-australia-idUSBRE97J0QK20130820)

GoOKC1991
08-20-2013, 01:58 PM
3 Suspects Charged In Murder Of Australian Man In Duncan - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/23198130/3-suspects-charged-in-murder-of-australian-man-in-duncan)

td25er
08-20-2013, 02:11 PM
Too bad you don't regret trying to make it about race when the facts aren't out yet, other than they were bored.

good god man, i'm not making it about race. reading comprehension, much? i'm ripping those 2 idiots and the media for making EVERYTHING ELSE (other than a white guy dying) about race

zookeeper
08-20-2013, 03:15 PM
~


Of course it was about race, at least about black gangs. Here are your killers. Maybe if Lane would have been carrying Skittles it would have cleared it all up. This is a tragedy.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1431919.1377024977!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-lane4-0820.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FRJ8GXJ.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/teenagers-allegedly-murder-college-baseball-player-boredom-article-1.1431445

ou48A
08-20-2013, 04:04 PM
The “gun culture” didn’t kill Chris Lane, but the rap and gang culture may have played a prominent role.
The PJ Tatler » Were Chris Lane?s Teenage Killers Really ?Bored?? (Warning: Strong Language) (http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/08/20/were-chris-lanes-teenage-killers-really-bored-warning-strong-language/)

GoOKC1991
08-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Jennifer Luna, whose son is suspected of firing the fatal shot, claimed her son was at home saying: “My son is not that way. My son is a good kid.”


SMH....

WilliamTell
08-20-2013, 04:31 PM
[QUOTE=zookeeper;679046]~


Of course it was about race, at least about black gangs. Here are your killers. Maybe if Lane would have been carrying Skittles it would have cleared it all up. This is a tragedy.

find real pictures of the people

WilliamTell
08-20-2013, 04:52 PM
So race baiters. One was black, one mixed, and one white.......and they all lived in a small country town.

3 Suspects Charged In Murder Of Australian Man In Duncan - News9.com (http://m.news9.com/Story.aspx?story=23198130&catId=112032)

Guess you got to find another story to spend all your energy being.pissed off.about. I suggest the white Guy who today was charged with shooting a woman in her face, her baby, her daughter, and then her mother..All in our great state... That news story broke about ZEROOO comments, I wonder what the difference was? You would think that my fellow Oklahomans would be concerned about a baby getting shot in the face and dying (let alone its entire family), but its just like something is missing.

http://www.news9.com/story/23177122/man-accused-in-okc-quadruple-murder-arraigned-on-monday


Guess i'll never know.

RadicalModerate
08-20-2013, 06:28 PM
Ever been through Duncan, OK?
It ain't Compton or Watts or anywhere else in Gansta'cRapland so I can see how it would easy to get bored.
Even if you are just imagining or pretending to be bored.

I guess that could be one theory of The Crime in order to spread the blame . . .

svdrAHn_LGo

D'ya 'spose it would prejudice the jury to have this playing in the background during the selection process?
ylY9wlnTdlw

Speaking of "Mixed Gangs"/Modern Odd Squads (One White, One Black, All "Blonde") I guess "everything old is new again" . . .
khYoU-X2I5U

SOONER8693
08-20-2013, 07:40 PM
Where is the outrage form J. Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP over this? Oh wait, the guy murdered was white and murdered by primarily black guys. Never mind.

RadicalModerate
08-20-2013, 08:05 PM
Where is the outrage form J. Jackson, Sharpton, and the NAACP over this? Oh wait, the guy murdered was white and murdered by primarily black guys. Never mind.

Surely you jest . . . in a rhetorical question kinda way.
The last time Jackson or Sharpton was genuinely "outraged" was the last time either one of them got stiffed on a speaker's fee connected with a rabble-rousing.

Both of those clowns have been "outta rage" for a long, long time.

Achilleslastand
08-20-2013, 10:02 PM
Surely you jest . . . in a rhetorical question kinda way.
The last time Jackson or Sharpton was genuinely "outraged" was the last time either one of them got stiffed on a speaker's fee connected with a rabble-rousing.

Both of those clowns have been "outta rage" for a long, long time.

The last time the good Rev AL was truly outraged was approx. 1988{Tawana Brawley}. And actually that is what put him on the map so to speak.

RadicalModerate
08-21-2013, 05:39 AM
Ah yes . . . The Great Tawana Brawley Hoax of '88.
Frankly, I think Al was faking it even back then. Much like Tawana.

BTW: You do realize that society and the parents are really at fault in this abominable murder, right?
Certainly not the media-addled (and bored) mad-dog killers themselves.

kevinpate
08-21-2013, 06:48 AM
Jennifer Luna, whose son is suspected of firing the fatal shot, claimed her son was at home saying: “My son is not that way. My son is a good kid.”


SMH....


No disrespect intended to Mother Luna. She is simply saying what near on every mama says. But if I had a dollar for every mama who ever uttered the functional equivalent to 'my baby ain't no killer', this note would be typed by a social media assistant while I was busy enjoying a beautiful ocean view off a nice beach somewhere in the tropics.

Jim Kyle
08-21-2013, 10:17 AM
If we had any doubts about the journalistic integrity of The Oklahoman, today's front page should have erased them. While the TV presentation of the three kids' mug shots clearly indicated a wide range of skin color and made it obvious that the group was quite integrated racially, the front page versions forced all three to the same shade -- matching the darkest of the three, of course. IMO it's an action worthy of Tulsa's late Mr. Brady, trying to play the race card when it obviously doesn't apply at all to this case.

Three generations of former editors must be rotating at 3600 RPM or more... The "Great Moral Daily" (as Roy Stewart used to call the morning edition) was never noted for freedom from bias, but today it reached a new low!

Anonymous.
08-21-2013, 10:43 AM
National media photo:
http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130820-suspects-oklahoma-545p.photoblog600.jpg


NewsOK photo:
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/606x404-747fd6841d1a6dc588337f43c9d7eac9.jpg

WilliamTell
08-21-2013, 11:18 AM
the front page versions forced all three to the same shade -- matching the darkest of the three, of course. IMO it's an action worthy of Tulsa's late Mr. Brady, trying to play the race card when it obviously doesn't apply at all to this case.
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That's been my thing all along. Between ourselves we'll sit around and say how racism is dead, black people just want to complain, sharpton, obama,etc,etc...

But then I watched news storys comments unfold yesterday and was literally ashamed of my fellow oklahomans, literally salivating at the chance to blame a entire ethnicity for a horrible crime. I had a friend of another color tell me something years ago that i'll never forget, ' when you do something, no one else gets blamed. when a minority (black, mexican, muslim) does something, they all get blamed.'....at the time i kinda dismissed it as b.s. between friends but he was dead on.

As I pointed out in this thread earlier, no one said a single word about the guy who shot a baby girl, her sister, her mother, and her grandma all in the face?

But im supposed to jump on the bandwagon about 'where is sharpton, if obama had a kid he would be one of these 3, etc,etc'