Quick Question: If Walmart builds just outside of a town, in order to avoid paying money to the municipality, why doesn't the town just annex the area? Choctaw was mentioned: Are there any new developments in that scam involving Walmart (et.al.)?

You are missing the point. Walmart hires people at 40 hours per week, then they start cutting their hours. To make up for the lost income they help sign their employees up for government programs. They keep doing this until they quit or are working 29 hours. If they quit, they get the next person and repeat the process. If you are happy with Walmart using taxpayer dollars to supplement their compensation program then by all means keep shopping at Walmart.

But it isn't just the hours worked that makes Walmart a bad company. They extort tax dollars from many of the communities they are in. Just look at Choctaw. If the towns don't pay up for whatever reason Walmart locates just outside the city limits. As some towns have learned, just when the tax rebates are about to expire and the local towns start to reap the benefit of selling their soul, Walmart moves out of town anyhow - sometimes just right across the street outside the city limits - leaving behind blight in the form of a 100,000 sq foot abandoned building and 10 acres of parking.

I'm not advocating Walmart be made illegal - I am advocating that people stand up for their towns and communities and stop shopping there because it is the right thing to do.

Sounds like they are being good stewards to those they are beholden to - their share holders. Shares I proudly own. To me, you either support capitalism or you don't. It isn't always pretty, but it is our country's foundation.

Looks like the fingers should be wagged at the municipalities that are making bad business relationships - not at Walmart. They operate legally and quite successfully. I have no problem with them. And while a few throw stones whenever and wherever possible, the obvious majority appreciate them and patronize them - as do I.

But I also have no problem with people who choose to boycott them (that's one less person in line in front of me).

Brian - that makes you part of the problem. I have defended capitalism against the OKCTalk left for 10 years because the left defines capitalism as government funding corporate America at the expense of American taxpayer and the American employee. It seems you now have the same definition of capitalism that most left-wingers have. I guess at some point the definition of capitalism changed and no one told me but if your definition is now accurate I can go on record as no longer supporting capitalism because what you described I used to know as 'greed'.

Brian - that makes you part of the problem. I have defended capitalism against the OKCTalk left for 10 years because the left defines capitalism as government funding corporate America at the expense of American taxpayer and the American employee. It seems you now have the same definition of capitalism that most left-wingers have. I guess at some point the definition of capitalism changed and no one told me but if your definition is now accurate I can go on record as no longer supporting capitalism because what you described I used to know as 'greed'.

Works for me.

"Greed" - yet another term that is so ambiguous as to simply be for shock value.

One can argue that if you take on more than you need or require then you're greedy. Which to me is extremely dangerous..... "Your house is too big - GREEDY!" "You pay yourself too much - GREEDY!" "You buy food you'll never be able to eat - GREEDY!" "You have more money than you can spend - GREEDY!"

Others will argue that 'greed' only works into the equation when it becomes illegal - and the rest will fall somewhere in between.

I love my $.54/pound bananas and I buy them knowing full and well that many a drop of blood has and continues to spill to fill my 'greed' for them. Its simply a fact. A fact others choose to be in denial of so that they can feel better about buying their cheap bananas, cheap clothes, brooms and many high end electronics.

Walmart is no more guilty of anything than its millions-upon-millions of customers are guilty of and if they want to continue to patronize them (as I do) and work for them (as they do freely) then so be it.

City govt's have to decide what is best for their community. And needless subsidies are nothing new. Look at the billions we give to oil and gas doing lateral drilling. Drilling they would do even if the incentives were much less - those GREEDY bastards!

Capitalism, as with most economic and political systems, is reliant upon those participating in those systems to maintain some sort of moral compass. If corporate America still had something that resembled a conscience, I don't think you would see today's predatory capitalism being so prevalent.

When profits at all cost became the sole motivating factor behind business and investment, responsible capitalism was discarded and people bought into it because it was "free market competition". That never goes wrong. Or does it? Sounds a bit like "trickle down" to me.

What happened to benevolence in business? We are fortunate to have a few good corporate citizens in OKC that actually do support the city with civic investments - at least until the predators on Wall Street start asking why investors' money is being "wasted".

If WalMart was still being run by Sam Walton or people with the same moral compass, I don't think we would be having this discussion. But the reality is WalMart in its present form is often a destructive force in America for the reasons cited here and other places. They ceased being good neighbors and good corporate citizens a long time ago. It doesn't have to be this way, but they are now driven by only one motivation - increasing share value for investors. Sam Walton's idea of lowering the cost of living for people has been perverted into lowering the standard of living for many while adding a few bucks to a few portfolios.

And many could define Sam Walton as 'greedy' - he was not shy about boasting claims of growing his presence in America by leaps and bounds and becoming a billion dollar company - something he did ahead of his projected plan.

I love how nostalgia always seems to rewrite history. Sam Walton seems to have been a very good man, but I don't see where he was not realistic in what it would take to make his company extremely profitable. Would he do things differently? Most likely. Would they still be done in a way that others would throw stones regardless - most assuredly.

FYI - I just finished my list and I'm headed to the evil empire in about 30 minutes.

Sounds like they are being good stewards to those they are beholden to - their share holders. Shares I proudly own. To me, you either support capitalism or you don't. It isn't always pretty, but it is our country's foundation.

Looks like the fingers should be wagged at the municipalities that are making bad business relationships - not at Walmart. They operate legally and quite successfully. I have no problem with them. And while a few throw stones whenever and wherever possible, the obvious majority appreciate them and patronize them - as do I.

But I also have no problem with people who choose to boycott them (that's one less person in line in front of me).

Capitalism does not have to be a cold shoulder to your employees and poverty wages.

My job is in danger of being outsourced due to "capitalism". My company is profitable, and certain synergies are being realized that will make it even more profitable and competitive in the coming years. Unfortunately, they see my job classification as a potential area to reduce overall company costs by $10 million per quarter to outsourcing. Our company made $500 million the previous quarter in profit via >$10 billion in revenue. profit margins were up and premium revenue was up. But, they are salivating at the mouth to outsource most of my department for an extra $10 million in profit (which is a drop in the bucket to $10 billion in revenue).

So is capitalism forcing your workforce to work for less to increase profits for the very few at the top despite being profitable? Is that what capitalism is?

If so, I have no desire to be any part of that. And I have no respect for those that push for such a cold-hearted society that thinks nothing of it's workforce or their families. We as a society are supposed to help each other out. Profitable businesses should take pride in helping their workforce be a part of their family and pay them well when they can afford to.

Republicans talk so much about letting the private sector take care of wellfare by allowing companies to expand and be profitable, when lately it seems highly profitable companies have no intention of helping their workforce make it in society.

And many could define Sam Walton as 'greedy' - he was not shy about boasting claims of growing his presence in America by leaps and bounds and becoming a billion dollar company - something he did ahead of his projected plan.

I love how nostalgia always seems to rewrite history. Sam Walton seems to have been a very good man, but I don't see where he was not realistic in what it would take to make his company extremely profitable. Would he do things differently? Most likely. Would they still be done in a way that others would throw stones regardless - most assuredly.

FYI - I just finished my list and I'm headed to the evil empire in about 30 minutes.

Sam Walton would be ashamed with how his company is run nowadays.

He paid his employees well. Cashiers at Wal-Mart when Sam was alive were paid $13-15 an hour. That was in the 80's. They get paid $10 or less now. They were partners (hence, the "partners" name tags) with true ownership stakes, and felt like part of the business. No longer. Annually, wal-mart gave great employee discounts, and had a special Christmas shopping night where employees got 75% off so they could buy for their family. No more. All the great Sam programs are gone now.

Sam Walton would be ashamed with how his company is run nowadays.

He paid his employees well. Cashiers at Wal-Mart when Sam was alive were paid $13-15 an hour. That was in the 80's. They get paid $10 or less now. They were partners (hence, the "partners" name tags) with true ownership stakes, and felt like part of the business. No longer. Annually, wal-mart gave great employee discounts, and had a special Christmas shopping night where employees got 75% off so they could buy for their family. No more. All the great Sam programs are gone now.

Like I said, nostalgia has a way of distorting facts.

I have Sam's biography and I recall he knew the value of cutting overhead and he saw payroll as one of his largest overhead expenses. He also only placed a woman (Hillary Clinton) on his historically all male board when he felt he had to. Your saint to working man also fiercely fought off unionization because he knew how much organized unions could cost him.

I'm not saying he didn't pay cashiers $13-$15/hr. - but I've never heard that and would love to see a link to some proof beyond blind admiration.

Like I said, nostalgia has a way of distorting facts.

I have Sam's biography and I recall he knew the value of cutting overhead and he saw payroll as one of his largest overhead expenses. He also only placed a woman (Hillary Clinton) on his historically all male board when he felt he had to. Your saint to working man also fiercely fought off unionization because he knew how much organized unions could cost him.

I'm not saying he didn't pay cashiers $13-$15/hr. - but I've never heard that and would love to see a link to some proof beyond blind admiration.

Well, my mother worked there for many years and raised us on it, and also we relied on the discounts for the Christmas shopping. But take that however you want. All I can provide for proof is personal knowledge and experience. Sam was a great employer. His heirs, not so much.

I'm not sure if its this way in all markets, but in OKC, Wal-Mart locations are always understaffed and poorly stocked. I don't see their days as numbered yet though. There are too many markets where Wal-Mart has little or no real competition. Most people I know shop there because its convenient and its cheaper plus in OKC they have taken over the way they have many smaller markets. Most people who don't shop at Wal-Mart do so on principle, especially in OKC where its difficult to avoid.

Dollar General is growing like crazy in Oklahoma, especially once you get to the outskirts of the metro. They are popping up all over the place in rural areas, getting traffic of the people not wanting to drive to town to fight Walmart traffic. Prices are competitive with Walmart.

For people who have time to wait there is always the internet, prices are even cheaper than Walmart.

Is it true that Dollar General has been Banned in Seattle due to their use of the word "outskirts" in their permit application?

Dollar General is growing like crazy in Oklahoma, especially once you get to the outskirts of the metro. They are popping up all over the place in rural areas, getting traffic of the people not wanting to drive to town to fight Walmart traffic. Prices are competitive with Walmart.

For people who have time to wait there is always the internet, prices are even cheaper than Walmart.

I certainly patronize Dollar General and their competition when I need some of the basics. My only issue is it tends to take forever to check out and some of their 'low prices' are deceptive. The product is often not identical to what the big box stores are selling. A gallon of "X" at Walmart may be $.75 more expensive, based on size - but its a concentrated version. Where the dollar store version is not concentrated and therefore actually more expensive. That said, lately I've found some items I typically buy at Sam's are actually often cheaper at Walmart. I reserve the dollar type store for the times when the wife yells, "would you mind running to the store and picking up x, y, z." (paper towels, napkins, soda pop, cleaning product or canned good).

I shop Target too. I find it odd Target usually avoids the hatred spewed at Walmart when they are certainly not so different - other than the packaging of the shopping experience. I just find Target to have the exact same basics at often higher to much higher prices. Foolish to pay more for the exact same thing.


Well, my mother worked there for many years and raised us on it, and also we relied on the discounts for the Christmas shopping. But take that however you want. All I can provide for proof is personal knowledge and experience. Sam was a great employer. His heirs, not so much.

Again, I really have my doubts that in the 80's cashiers were making $13-$15/hr on their paychecks - but I have no proof. I've done some hunting online and all I can find backs up what I said earlier - Sam did not like paying his employees more than he had to.

Is it true that Dollar General has been Banned in Seattle due to their use of the word "outskirts" in their permit application?

Close, but it was because of the word 'General' in the name. It was deemed too militant and would potentially strike fear into 'residents' near their stores. My understanding is they will change the name to 'Dollar Things of Various Uses'.

Close, but it was because of the word 'General' in the name. It was deemed too militant and would potentially strike fear into 'residents' near their stores. My understanding is they will change the name to 'Dollar Things of Various Uses'.

DUDE . . . I think they are handing out Political Re-Education passes at Walmart today . . .
Sounds like you are in need of a tune-up . . . =)

(you get a "free fone" in the bargain along with a little, ingestable, pill containing some Nanotech stuff)

Close, but it was because of the word 'General' in the name. It was deemed too militant and would potentially strike fear into 'residents' near their stores. My understanding is they will change the name to 'Dollar Things of Various Uses'.

DUDE . . . I think they are handing out Political Re-Education passes at Walmart today . . .
Sounds like you are in need of a tune-up . . . =)

(you get a "free fone" in the bargain along with a little, ingestable, pill containing some Nanotech stuff)

Close, but it was because of the word 'General' in the name. It was deemed too militant and would potentially strike fear into 'residents' near their stores. My understanding is they will change the name to 'Dollar Things of Various Uses'.

I think it is because they were worried about their female patrons: Army general to face court-martial on sexual misconduct charges - Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/21/nation/la-na-nn-fort-bragg-sexual-assault-court-martial130121)

Warnings of slower sales drive US stocks lower | News OK (http://newsok.com/warnings-of-slower-sales-drive-us-stocks-lower/article/feed/578718)


NEW YORK (AP) — Warnings of weaker sales from two major companies and concern that the Federal Reserve could ease off its support for the economy sent the stock market spiraling lower Thursday.

Before the start of trading, Wal-Mart cut its estimates for annual revenue and profit, warning that cautious shoppers are spending less.

Wall Street seems to believe that declining Walmart sales equals bad economy ahead, but since Walmart is a discounter couldn't declining Walmart sales also indicate an improving economy?

Or do we have a larger problem called Quantitative Easing?


Frederick said many investors are speculating that the improving economy means the Fed will start pumping less money into the financial system in the coming months

Or both at the same time. The economy can't improve because if it does Walmart and the rest of Wall Street will collapse.

But if The Fed pumps in less money doesn't that imply that The Debt/Deficit will decrease?
"It's too big to fail." (inventor of The Hindenburg)

Warnings of slower sales drive US stocks lower | News OK (http://newsok.com/warnings-of-slower-sales-drive-us-stocks-lower/article/feed/578718)



Wall Street seems to believe that declining Walmart sales equals bad economy ahead, but since Walmart is a discounter couldn't declining Walmart sales also indicate an improving economy?

Or do we have a larger problem called Quantitative Easing?



Or both at the same time. The economy can't improve because if it does Walmart and the rest of Wall Street will collapse.

I agree. Wal-Mart sales skyrocketed in 2008 as people turned to them who previously went elsewhere. I would imagine anybody who turned to Wal-Mart to save money during the recession or out of necessity would jump ship once they could afford to. Dillard's, a chain many thought wouldn't make it to the end of 2009, has recovered very nicely.

I am starting to worry that Wall Street is too heavily invested in failure. Declining sales at Walmart should be a sign of economic recovery but Wall Street is so invested in them and hold them up as an economic indicator that we might finally have become a discount nation.

U.S. stocks slammed; Dow drops over 200 points - Market Snapshot - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-stocks-drop-sharply-as-yields-climb-2013-08-15)


NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. stocks on Thursday thudded lower for a second day, with the Dow industrials posting their first back-to-back triple-digit drop since June, as Treasury yields spiked to 2011 highs and Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Cisco Systems Inc. cut their forecasts.

Several upbeat economic reports spurred thinking that the Federal Reserve will begin to scale back its monthly bond buys in September.

Everybody complains about the low wages Walmart supposedly pays yet, people forget a typical Walmart store consist of mostly low skill jobs that just about anybody can do. The cash register tells the clerk how much change to give (Some even tell them what bill and coin denominations to remove from the drawer.

The cashier of today is nothing like the cashier of years ago where they had to have good math skills and good hand eye coordination otherwise the transactions would be all out of whack. Not to mention. the customers in line would back up through the aisles. Not processing customers in a timely manner would get the average cashier fired years ago. Today computers do all the work so even a beginner cashier can move a line at a reasonable pace.

The stockers have it easier now too. They don't have to price the merchandise and move like a machine to get the aisles stocked. The pallets arrived presorted to the aisle and area of the store so all they have to do is spend a few seconds placing it. I remember going to Griders on May with my grandparents years ago. The guys look like robots. They would grab a box, rip the top off with a box knife. Stamp the boxes, cut the sides of the box, run down the aisle, slam on the shelf, then run for the next box of products.

In time I predict Walmart will be the one of the first stores to automate their pay and stocking system. When they do, you can expect a large number of people to be on the unemployment line.

At the end of the day people have to realize that low skill jobs are the answer for long term employment. Sure, they are great for students and supplemental income but, that's about it. If you want to make money you have a skill that few people have or you have to trade school or college.

It surprises me that schools are driving kids away from looking into blue collar jobs. (Mechanics, paint and body, construction, electrician, plumber, welders and truck drivers) Granted they are not going to pay a ton of money in the beginning however, if you get good at one of those trades you can start your own business and earn a comfortable income. ($50-$75K a year and that is not bad at all for Oklahoma)

Everybody complains about the low wages Walmart supposedly pays yet, people forget a typical Walmart store consist of mostly low skill jobs that just about anybody can do. The cash register tells the clerk how much change to give (Some even tell them what bill and coin denominations to remove from the drawer.

In time I predict Walmart will be the one of the first stores to automate their pay and stocking system. When they do, you can expect a large number of people to be on the unemployment line.

We won't have to worry about cashiers complaining about low pay soon....... because there won't be any cashiers! THIS...... Scan and Go - Walmart.com (http://wm5.walmart.com/scanandgo/) Had no idea they were already doing this in Edmond. I will give it a try this morning.

I think its been covered -

But for a long time I was a walmart fan, I shop early in the morning on the weekends so i never have to deal with any crowds and the stores were stocked. But over the last two years it has gotten worse and worse in finding everyday grocery and non grocery items in stock (2% milk for example), even at 6:00 am (they stop stocking at 7). It gotten bad enough that I started going to Crest and not only has my food bill dropped but im able to find exactly what im looking for each time.

They just cut back on their staff way too much and their stores really did completely turn into war zones at all hours of the day.

With their non grocery items its even worse, I could name countless items that i've tried to find in multiple different stores to just end up buying it on amazon (lamps, tower fans, electronic accessories, steam mops, etc,etc). You just cant find what you are looking for and the stuff you do find is higher priced than online and lower quality. They are becoming the next bestbuy of household items.

I think its been covered -

But for a long time I was a walmart fan, I shop early in the morning on the weekends so i never have to deal with any crowds and the stores were stocked. But over the last two years it has gotten worse and worse in finding everyday grocery and non grocery items in stock (2% milk for example), even at 6:00 am (they stop stocking at 7). It gotten bad enough that I started going to Crest and not only has my food bill dropped but im able to find exactly what im looking for each time.

They just cut back on their staff way too much and their stores really did completely turn into war zones at all hours of the day.

With their non grocery items its even worse, I could name countless items that i've tried to find in multiple different stores to just end up buying it on amazon (lamps, tower fans, electronic accessories, steam mops, etc,etc). You just cant find what you are looking for and the stuff you do find is higher priced than online and lower quality. They are becoming the next bestbuy of household items.

Crest is awesome, especially thier customer service. Prices are comparable to Walmart, but Crest doesn't offer as many generic branded items. In Walmart there is a "great value" version of just about everything they sell.

I think its been covered -

But for a long time I was a walmart fan, I shop early in the morning on the weekends so i never have to deal with any crowds and the stores were stocked. But over the last two years it has gotten worse and worse in finding everyday grocery and non grocery items in stock (2% milk for example), even at 6:00 am (they stop stocking at 7). It gotten bad enough that I started going to Crest and not only has my food bill dropped but im able to find exactly what im looking for each time.

They just cut back on their staff way too much and their stores really did completely turn into war zones at all hours of the day.

With their non grocery items its even worse, I could name countless items that i've tried to find in multiple different stores to just end up buying it on amazon (lamps, tower fans, electronic accessories, steam mops, etc,etc). You just cant find what you are looking for and the stuff you do find is higher priced than online and lower quality. They are becoming the next bestbuy of household items.

I will give in on the point that they do have fewer employees than years past and the stores I frequent (Edmond I-35 frontage and the Tinker Diagonal) seem to have less on hand. That said, I can't recall not being able to get what I want on a visit. My visits however are pretty much reduced to grocery items (we don't buy hardly any 'junk food' or much processed) - mostly just fruit, veggies, eggs, some deli meats. Non-grocery is limited to toiletries, small kitchen utensils, grilling items and gardening misc. Anything like decor (lamps, rugs, dishes,etc.) is reserved for Target (at the minimum) or a more specialty store or online. We are pretty frugal and always price compare to places like Amazon and rarely are the prices much different for the things we buy. I do though try to buy more of my food items at the Edmond Sprouts. The convenience factor or location, variety and low prices is what keeps me a Walmart shopper though. However, when the Sam's next door opens I will frequent far more and Walmart far less.

Brian - A lot of retailers have introduced "Scan and Go" technology, from Home Depot to Carl's Jr. It works better in some situations than others, but universally it is intended to lower organizational costs while giving customers an option for checking out faster. It's really not much different than the credit card readers on gasoline pumps which were introduced years ago. As a customer I like having the option.

Who is against it? Unions, the under-educated, under-qualified and under-performing workers. The lesson for them - and others not yet in the work force - is to keep learning and growing so you rise above these technologies that threaten to replace you. Because they will.

Brian - A lot of retailers have introduced "Scan and Go" technology, from Home Depot to Carl's Jr. It works better in some situations than others, but universally it is intended to lower organizational costs while giving customers an option for checking out faster. It's really not much different than the credit card readers on gasoline pumps which were introduced years ago. As a customer I like having the option.

Who is against it? Unions, the under-educated, under-qualified and under-performing workers. The lesson for them - and others not yet in the work force - is to keep learning and growing so you rise above these technologies that threaten to replace you. Because they will.

Has Home Depot expanded to Scan & Go already? The last time I used their app it was simply a click & pull type arrangement (like Sam's) and really only useful for shopping from home.

I'll love it when smart carts are implemented and it knows whats in your cart and you simply swipe your card and go (or its debited wirelessly via PayPal, etc.).

BBatesokc,
I live a little over two miles from there and am really looking forward to it. I'm one of those people that likes to have ten boxes of kleenex/tissue in my cabinet just in case, so I don't mind buying their large quantity items. Kind of dumb though, I live alone! Oh well, old habits...
C. T.

However, when the Sam's next door opens I will frequent far more and Walmart far less.

I shop Target too. I find it odd Target usually avoids the hatred spewed at Walmart when they are certainly not so different - other than the packaging of the shopping experience.
Target avoids the hate, because unlike Wal-Mart it chose to stay out of small towns for the most part. And from there, Wal-Mart wasn't just driving out small mom and pop stores, it was also running off entire regional retail chains trying to make it, such as Gibson's.

Target avoids the hate, because unlike Wal-Mart it chose to stay out of small towns for the most part. And from there, Wal-Mart wasn't just driving out small mom and pop stores, it was also running off entire regional retail chains trying to make it, such as Gibson's.

That and their shopping experience, taken in its entirety, doesn't suck beyond belief like that at Wallyworld.

Target avoids the hate, because unlike Wal-Mart it chose to stay out of small towns for the most part. And from there, Wal-Mart wasn't just driving out small mom and pop stores, it was also running off entire regional retail chains trying to make it, such as Gibson's.

You can say they have done the same thing in OKC with the grocery stores (Albertson's for instance). Target's business practice is entirely different from Wal-Mart. When Target comes into town, its intention isn't running everything else out of business and becoming the only place to shop.


That and their shopping experience, taken in its entirety, doesn't suck beyond belief like that at Wallyworld.

True. The entire Wal-Mart experience is just terrible. I actually wouldn't mind shopping at Wal-Mart neighborhood markets if they would just stock them well and had more than a couple of people working the cash registers during busy times.

That and their shopping experience, taken in its entirety, doesn't suck beyond belief like that at Wallyworld.

Target is not immune to a suckitude entiritus. I NEVER find what I want in a Target.

I have to admit I went to Wally World this Sunday and it never ceases to amaze me the people you see in Walmart. Half the fun is seeing how some of them are dressed. I don't think I've ever seen anybody in Target that comes close.

Incredibly TRUE! Sometimes, I'm getting ready to leave the house, and my wife brings me back to reality, "Only to Walmart and back! No stops anywhere inbetween!" How did Walmart get to be this alternate reality where totally slovenly is OK?

I have to admit I went to Wally World this Sunday and it never ceases to amaze me the people you see in Walmart. Half the fun is seeing how some of them are dressed. I don't think I've ever seen anybody in Target that comes close.

Probably why there is no PeepsofTarget website (at least I do not think there is)

I have to admit I went to Wally World this Sunday and it never ceases to amaze me the people you see in Walmart. Half the fun is seeing how some of them are dressed. I don't think I've ever seen anybody in Target that comes close.

You mean fat women without much on?

Giant men on scooters, leaking calves wrapped in gauze, clutching 10 pound jars of multicolored cheez doodles. People who lean over the cart and steer with massive abdomens, "food" in one hand, phone in the other. Fat 4-year-old girls dressed up like tarts, eating corn dogs out of the box. Folk who appear to have cleared the intersection, but 3 feet of butt is still there. You can't turn down the aisle just because the cart is 4 feet past the intersection. Young women built like linebackers from the mid-back up. It's the "food."

A couple people mentioned Wal-Marts here poorly stocked, you want to know why? The stores here at least, have this system called MyGuide, which lists your stocking chore for the day/night and you are given an amount of time to do it mostly an hour and a half. I usually took longer, but that was because I put an emphasis on making sure the items were placed correctly in the right spot, it's easy to get it done in your set time if you just throw your freight on the shelves and not worry if it's correct or not (and many employees do it that way). I was fired because I wasn't getting it done on time, despite putting the items in the right place, even if that took a little extra time. The employees who just threw the items on the shelves, not worrying about it being the right spot, were kept. What a joke.

You should have just worked off-the-clock an extra hour every night. I am sure that would have smoothed things over.

Funny Pictures at WalMart (http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/)

At a Wal-Mart in Tennessee.

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This is in Virginia

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You should have just worked off-the-clock an extra hour every night. I am sure that would have smoothed things over.

Working off the clock is not allowed.

Working off the clock is not allowed.

I guess all those 'back wages' lawsuits finally worked.

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I guess the guy in the top two pictures is too sexy for his shirt . . . and his pants.
I have no guesses at all about the guy in the bottom picture.

mmm, those are fairly tame for people of walmart images.

[QUOTE=RadicalModerate;679431... I have no guesses at all about the guy in the bottom picture.[/QUOTE]

Ah, that's too easy. he's just head over heels to be living in a Walmart world.

mmm, those are fairly tame for people of walmart images.

nope. not gonna look. -M

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Might be for the best. ya never know when you'll stumble across someone you know.

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mmm, those are fairly tame for people of walmart images.

I didn't want to post anything that might get me banned. Clearly some people have mental issues (like I suspect the guy in the pink above has), but some of the others don't have any excuse - and probably even think they look good.

I have no guesses at all about the guy in the bottom picture.

At least he has his shirt on. But if I had a thing for wearing high heels, I don't think I would feel quite right wearing them dressed like that.

The chap who preferred sensible height heels to sandals had a modicum of fashion sense, at least at the color level. The chap in the white speedo, well, to borrow a style from Maher - NEW RULE - If you're a member of the chunky monkey club and you're wearing less fabric than your lady friend ... don't. Please, just don't.

A couple people mentioned Wal-Marts here poorly stocked, you want to know why? The stores here at least, have this system called MyGuide, which lists your stocking chore for the day/night and you are given an amount of time to do it mostly an hour and a half. I usually took longer, but that was because I put an emphasis on making sure the items were placed correctly in the right spot, it's easy to get it done in your set time if you just throw your freight on the shelves and not worry if it's correct or not (and many employees do it that way). I was fired because I wasn't getting it done on time, despite putting the items in the right place, even if that took a little extra time. The employees who just threw the items on the shelves, not worrying about it being the right spot, were kept. What a joke.

Glad it wasn't like that when I worked there. I worked at the now closed Warr Acres location. Had me in 'chemicals' - which was basically toilet paper, paper towels and cleaning products. Pretty much left me alone as long as my section always looked tidy and well stocked. When I was done they asked that we'd see if any other sections needed any help. There was always opportunities to get in overtime by signing up to stock overnight. I did that when I needed extra cash. All-in-all I enjoyed working there an there was plenty of opportunity to move up if someone wanted to. Sounds like its changed since I was there in the late early 90's.

In the early 90s, Sam was still around and emphasizing good morale and service. The MBAs hadn't yet come into the picture and changed the goal to short-term profits...

In the early 90s, Sam was still around and emphasizing good morale and service. The MBAs hadn't yet come into the picture and changed the goal to short-term profits...

Have you read his bio? Sam was all about profit.

Ah, that's too easy. he's just head over heels to be living in a Walmart world.

{Thought bubble over the conservative cross-dresser's head}:
{Let's see . . . Next stop Dr. Scholl's . . . It's probably close to The Fabled Acre o' Tampons . . .
This getting in touch with your feminine side is more complicated than one might imagine!
Gee . . . I wonder if I am Pretty in Pink . . .}

The guy is obviously on a work release program mandated by his court appointed shrink to make up for the fact that previously he would have been shopping The Wife-Beater Tee Department.

Have you read his bio? Sam was all about profit.

Yes He Was . . . so's he could share his gift with his faithful employees and thereby empower them to spread the wealth.
(as i said earlier: They--the slug brigade interlopers, armed with MBAs and no real world experience--recently opened his grave to drive a stake through his heart to make sure he wouldn't return. They were all mumbling to each other in a mysterious language that sounded vaguely Chinese.)

Have you read his bio? Sam was all about profit.Of course he was -- but he was also a quite savvy entrepreneur, and was well aware that moderate profit over the long term was much better than high profit over a very short term, followed by quickly declining profits as people found other places to trade. That's why he put so much emphasis on group morale and good service -- and also on keeping his image on the "poor boy" side by such acts as driving a battered old pickup rather than riding in a limo (which he could easily have afforded).

The major difference between his methods, and those currently being used, revolved around just that difference in outlook. When you were there, as you said, you had the freedom (and I suspect were encouraged to use it) to keep your area cleaned up, well stocked, and easy for the customers to buy from. The current by-the-book methods, using a book that's not related to reality, actually reduce the attractiveness of the merchandise, and I'd bet that the total profit margin is less today than it was in the early 90s!

Of course he was -- but he was also a quite savvy entrepreneur, and was well aware that moderate profit over the long term was much better than high profit over a very short term, followed by quickly declining profits as people found other places to trade. That's why he put so much emphasis on group morale and good service -- and also on keeping his image on the "poor boy" side by such acts as driving a battered old pickup rather than riding in a limo (which he could easily have afforded).

The major difference between his methods, and those currently being used, revolved around just that difference in outlook. When you were there, as you said, you had the freedom (and I suspect were encouraged to use it) to keep your area cleaned up, well stocked, and easy for the customers to buy from. The current by-the-book methods, using a book that's not related to reality, actually reduce the attractiveness of the merchandise, and I'd bet that the total profit margin is less today than it was in the early 90s!

I'm not so convinced things would be that much different had Sam lived to today. He knew the value of a dollar and he had very aggressive plans to have his company make its first billion and he didn't do it thinking he'd have to be cuddly and nice.

As I've said, he didn't like to pay above average salaries and he didn't much care for women in leadership roles. He also kept his profits close and within the family on purpose. He really, really liked money. But more than money he liked to win at all costs in virtually everything that he did.

People admire Sam because he was frugal and not showy. I don't think he was so much humble as he knew every dime he could save/cut was a dime of profit (which is spelled out in his book). I have no reason to believe he would not have applied that same school of thought to many of the policies so many people today frown upon.

Have you read his bio? Sam was all about profit.

It's been awhile since I read it but if memory serves he said at first he saw payroll as just more overhead that needed to be cut to the bone but then later came to realize that much like the paradox that the lower you cut prices the more profit you'll make the same holds true that the more profits you share with the work force the more profits your company will make. Whether he practiced and/or believed it I don't know but that's pretty much what he stated in his autobiography 'Made In America'.