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Teo9969
05-24-2014, 04:33 PM
IMHO financing is the worst delay to have. That goes to illustrate that this project was NOT as solid as reported. Sounds like it is now.


That was my exact thought…but that still imparts some amount of worry for the end result…

soonerguru
05-24-2014, 05:47 PM
This is going to be fine.

Spartan
05-24-2014, 07:00 PM
That was my exact thought…but that still imparts some amount of worry for the end result…

Just to be clear I didn't mean to impugn what could be the finished product.

No design review changes yet..

Teo9969
05-24-2014, 08:48 PM
Just to be clear I didn't mean to impugn what could be the finished product.

No design review changes yet..

Right…I'm not saying that the thing is going to flop…but should something go over budget, go wrong during construction, that could cause some setbacks, scale-backs, etc. I think it should be fine…but as we've seen with both aLoft and Maywood I, noticeable changes late in the process hurt the overall quality of the project, even if only in superficial ways.

I don't imagine anything will happen to the structure, but I'll feel better when the thing is framed out.

Spartan
05-24-2014, 10:04 PM
If they have financed the proposed $45 million they should be alright.

soonerguru
05-25-2014, 12:26 AM
Apparently they are starting dirt work in a couple of weeks, per Steve. What is this hand-wringing about? The show's about ready to start. They have their financing. They're going to start construction imminently.

ljbab728
05-25-2014, 12:29 AM
The folks at OKCTALK enjoy hand-wringing. :)

bradh
05-25-2014, 12:24 PM
We've got a customer that might be doing the site utilities for this, and they've told us another hang up is the city I believe is wanting them to relocate a waterline into the street, and that's going to add some costs, so there has been some discussion about that.

bradh
05-30-2014, 01:10 PM
clearing of trees being done on this site today as I drove back from S&B's over lunch

Just the facts
05-30-2014, 01:20 PM
We've got a customer that might be doing the site utilities for this, and they've told us another hang up is the city I believe is wanting them to relocate a waterline into the street, and that's going to add some costs, so there has been some discussion about that.

The waterline (along with all other utilites) should have been located in the street from day 1 anyhow. Putting all that stuff on the sides of the road is why we have large setbacks everywhere.

http://media.metro.net/photologue/photos/12-0663_ntc_I405_Handout_8.5x11_final_1.jpg

Plutonic Panda
05-30-2014, 01:53 PM
clearing of trees being done on this site today as I drove back from S&B's over lunchAwesome!

bradh
05-30-2014, 02:54 PM
Kerry I don't know what your point is, I was just sharing some info that I was told.

Chadanth
05-30-2014, 02:59 PM
Kerry I don't know what your point is, I was just sharing some info that I was told.

I think his point is that if water lines were ran where they should be, they wouldn't have to move them.

bradh
05-30-2014, 03:06 PM
I think his point is that if water lines were ran where they should be, they wouldn't have to move them.

No kidding, I don't think anyone was arguing that here.

Similar utility relocations are going to be done for The Steel Yard as well, to a much grander scale.

Just the facts
06-02-2014, 07:54 AM
I think his point is that if water lines were ran where they should be, they wouldn't have to move them.No kidding, I don't think anyone was arguing that here.

Similar utility relocations are going to be done for The Steel Yard as well, to a much grander scale.

No one here was arguing it - but Public Works doesn't like them in the street - which is why they aren't in the street now. Look at any new construction in metro OKC and you will see the City putting utilities along the sides of the road.

Chadanth
06-02-2014, 07:56 AM
Saw some signs of life on the property over the weekend. Looks like they're clearing.

AP
06-02-2014, 09:22 AM
Saw some signs of life on the property over the weekend. Looks like they're clearing.

Yeah, looked like trees and the remnants of the foundation of the previous building there.

Pete
06-02-2014, 10:01 AM
I spoke to the architects on this project today and they told me that the delays were due to some minor revisions (see below) that had to be first worked through, then resubmitted to the Downtown Design Review Committee. The changes were just approved a couple of weeks ago.

I was told they now have their final building permits and are ready to go, which is why you now see clearing at the site.

Below is a detail on the west elevation, the one that will front Oklahoma:



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/metropolitantext.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8009d1401724607-metropolitan-metropolitannew.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8010d1401724607-metropolitan-metropolitannew1.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8011d1401724608-metropolitan-metropolitannew2.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/attachments/development-buildings/8012d1401724609-metropolitan-metropolitannew3.jpg

HangryHippo
06-02-2014, 01:34 PM
With the trees gone, this site is much larger than I previously thought.

On a related note, I hope this spurs some development on the NW corner of 6th and Oklahoma.

Pete
06-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Remember, this will be the largest housing development in the core. It's a big project.


Also, I really like how they have varied the materials and design elements to make what could be a long, dull expanse into something interesting to look at.

Teo9969
06-02-2014, 01:43 PM
I love how this project and Steelyard (though less so after some of the changes they underwent) look like trains :)

okclee
06-02-2014, 02:28 PM
I am still surprised there is no retail on the ground level of this project. The traffic count along here seems to be very high.

Pete
06-04-2014, 06:39 PM
Plutonic Panda getting it done for the OKCTalk Street Team:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/metropolitan060414a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/metropolitan060414b.jpg

Spartan
06-04-2014, 06:44 PM
Thanks PluPlan for the pics! Be careful traipsing through these construction sites.

Plutonic Panda
06-04-2014, 06:47 PM
Np man... I'm walking around downtown now getting some more so if there's anything else you want to see let me know.

I love downtown so much... Very exciting what's going on!!!

Chadanth
06-04-2014, 07:01 PM
I am still surprised there is no retail on the ground level of this project. The traffic count along here seems to be very high.

I think that section of Oklahoma is more commuter-ish, if that makes sense. Retail would have been tough, but I think there's a lot of potential on the west side of Oklahoma for retail/restaurant development.

David
06-04-2014, 09:08 PM
That's a big change compared to when I swung by on Sunday. I snapped a few, but once I got home and looked they just weren't very good pictures.

shawnw
06-05-2014, 07:56 AM
I think that section of Oklahoma is more commuter-ish, if that makes sense. Retail would have been tough, but I think there's a lot of potential on the west side of Oklahoma for retail/restaurant development.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of retail was coordinated as to not interfere with what's going on in AA and 9th street, which is close enough to service these folks...

AP
06-05-2014, 07:58 AM
I think that section of Oklahoma is more commuter-ish, if that makes sense. Retail would have been tough, but I think there's a lot of potential on the west side of Oklahoma for retail/restaurant development.

I agree. There are quite a few empty lots on the west side.

okclee
06-05-2014, 08:33 AM
I think that section of Oklahoma is more commuter-ish, if that makes sense. Retail would have been tough, but I think there's a lot of potential on the west side of Oklahoma for retail/restaurant development.
It is definitely commuter traffic that I am referring to.
Yes the west side of Okla ave is mostly vacant lots or metal storage buildings, more likely that is where the retail could be added. I'm thinking retailers love to have that highway access and all the number of cars that pass by. But as shawnw has said it is probably wise for now to keep growing the retail along AA before adding another area to the mix.

By the way, dozens of workers on this site today and lots of heavy equipment from one end to the other end. It may have taken this a while to get started but they look to be in high gear now.

Urbanized
06-05-2014, 08:42 AM
I may have mentioned this already, but as a former director (and board member prior to that) of the Automobile Alley Main Street Program this project gives me about as much satisfaction as anything happening downtown right now.

During my service there I always felt that site would be amazing for some dense residential, but the time for that development seemed so far down the road. Well, now we know that it was about fifteen years down the road LOL, but I'm glad to see that my gut was right. It's really going to be a game changer for the area.

I also agree about the retail/development potential for the west side of Oklahoma opposite of this construction. The traffic count on Oklahoma Ave alone makes it incredibly enticing, but the proximity to 10th, 6th, 235 and this housing should make that a slam dunk.

Pete
06-05-2014, 08:42 AM
Yes the west side of Okla ave is mostly vacant lots or metal storage buildings, more likely that is where the retail could be added. I'm thinking retailers love to have that highway access and all the number of cars that pass by.

Several lots on the west side of Oklahoma are owned by the developers that sold the land to Metropolitan.

At one point there was to be a new Starbucks and I'm not sure if that deal is dead or just on hold until they can get this project open.

UnFrSaKn
06-05-2014, 11:04 AM
Construction Update: The Metropolitan Apartments | News OK (http://newsok.com/construction-update-the-metropolitan-apartments/article/4886466)

traxx
06-05-2014, 01:25 PM
Plutonic Panda getting it done for the OKCTalk Street Team:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/metropolitan060414b.jpg

Awesome!

Vince Gill is coming to the Riverwind.

Lazio85
06-10-2014, 11:47 AM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/14412307823_c21eacd258_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXyQZV)
The Metropolitan (https://flic.kr/p/nXyQZV) by lazio85 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Pete
06-10-2014, 12:14 PM
^

Awesome! Thanks as always, Lazio.

5alive
06-10-2014, 12:24 PM
Confirmed. Even close-up those microwave towers are ugly.

Bellaboo
06-10-2014, 01:15 PM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/14412307823_c21eacd258_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/nXyQZV)
The Metropolitan (https://flic.kr/p/nXyQZV) by lazio85 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

This is a 'two for one' - The Metropolitan and the GE Global Research Center.

Great picture.

Pete
06-10-2014, 01:20 PM
In Caddyshack, Rodney Dangerfield stated that the two greatest wastes of real estate are cemeteries and golf courses.

Looking at that photo, I submit a third: Interstate exchanges / cloverleafs.

bchris02
06-10-2014, 01:26 PM
In Caddyshack, Rodney Dangerfield stated that the two greatest wastes of real estate are cemeteries and golf courses.

Looking at that photo, I submit a third: Interstate exchanges / cloverleafs.

I wish ODOT would start replacing cloverleafs with stack interchanges like other states such as Texas and Tennessee.

Plutonic Panda
06-10-2014, 01:47 PM
I wish ODOT would start replacing cloverleafs with stack interchanges like other states such as Texas and Tennessee.+1

Plutonic Panda
06-10-2014, 01:48 PM
This project is really going to have a big impact.

soonerguru
06-10-2014, 06:07 PM
My goodness that AT&T building is ugly.

Urbanized
06-10-2014, 07:48 PM
The building is actually beautiful. It's the crap bolted onto the top...

soonerguru
06-10-2014, 08:18 PM
The building is actually beautiful. It's the crap bolted onto the top...

Well, yeah. Duh.

OKCisOK4me
06-11-2014, 08:57 AM
This is a 'two for one' - The Metropolitan and the GE Global Research Center.

Great picture.
I was thinking that the GE Research Center view may be disrupted as height is achieved on the Metropolitan. At least it will cover up the highway ditch.

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OKCisOK4me
06-11-2014, 08:59 AM
I wish ODOT would start replacing cloverleafs with stack interchanges like other states such as Texas and Tennessee.
Isn't that the cloverleaf that will fall by the wayside once construction starts on the 10th Street exit?

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HangryHippo
06-11-2014, 09:07 AM
Isn't that the cloverleaf that will fall by the wayside once construction starts on the 10th Street exit?

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I thought they were leaving that cloverleaf and just extending a ramp straight north off that same exit ramp so you'll have the option to go either way.

adaniel
06-11-2014, 09:10 AM
Isn't that the cloverleaf that will fall by the wayside once construction starts on the 10th Street exit?

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Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.

CuatrodeMayo
06-11-2014, 09:23 AM
My goodness that AT&T building is ugly.
The rooftop appendage is so ugly, I almost like it. In a weird, kitchy way.

...maybe I should finish this coffee...

Urbanized
06-11-2014, 09:55 AM
I hate to say it, but I was thinking the same thing. The problem is that it only works close up, and it totally clashes with the (REAL) beautiful structure below. But I do know what you mean.

OKCisOK4me
06-11-2014, 11:06 AM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.
Agreed

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shawnw
06-11-2014, 11:14 AM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Crud, that's how I get home. Shouldn't be a big deal to tweak the route, but the first few times I see myself forgetting.

HangryHippo
06-11-2014, 01:55 PM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.

I don't think they're doing away with the cloverleaf that takes you back around to Harrison are they? It's still in this photo:

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Spartan
06-11-2014, 04:37 PM
I think we should take the switching equipment and other obsolescent crap bolted on top of the AT&T bldg and put it in the new Central Park which will desperately need attractions and focal points.

Plutonic Panda
06-11-2014, 04:53 PM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.I have no seen any city build a stack or fly-over for a street exit.

soonerguru
06-12-2014, 12:38 AM
I think we should take the switching equipment and other obsolescent crap bolted on top of the AT&T bldg and put it in the new Central Park which will desperately need attractions and focal points.

Lol

shawnw
06-12-2014, 11:15 AM
I'm surprised the city can't find someone who will go up and get that AT&T equipment if they get the salvage/scrap rights to it. I mean, there's gotta be some copper in there, right?

BDP
06-12-2014, 04:17 PM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.

Wait. So, 6th / walnut exit is going away?

Just the facts
06-12-2014, 05:09 PM
Yes. ODOT will eliminate the 6th Street off ramps and make 10th Street a normal diamond interchange.

Really no reason to make this a stack/flyover.


Can't they at least do a single point urban intersection.