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Plutonic Panda
08-24-2012, 12:14 AM
Here is a link from The Oklahoman: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-drivers-license-will-get-makeover/article/3703634

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A sample of the redesigned Oklahoma driver’s license to be rolled out statewide over the next three to four months is shown. Photo provided by Oklahoma Department of Public Safety

Bill Robertson
08-24-2012, 07:34 AM
Let's see. They rearranged the location of the pictures and info. Also changed the state seal to an American flag. Whoopee!

OKCisOK4me
08-24-2012, 08:38 AM
Ghetto

Roadhawg
08-24-2012, 09:15 AM
Emily looks pretty good for being in her 60's

kevinpate
08-24-2012, 09:25 AM
Maybe there is an anti-aging photo-shop chip behind the picture.

BoulderSooner
08-24-2012, 10:49 AM
Is it really going to have "Veteran"? I hope that I can opt out of that. I don't care if anyone seeing my ID knows if I am a veteran or not. Seems like a blatant attempt to try to bribe officers to give veterans who break that law a little more 'flexibility'.

The last thing anyone in the military wants is for special treatment and not be held accountable for their actions.

the veteran flag will be optional .....

can't speak for all vets .. but i would be more than happy to not get speeding ticket if the officer didn't want to give me one because i am a veteran and i would guess that most feel the same way

Matt
08-24-2012, 11:08 AM
Nevermind the aesthetics of the new license--this is what I'm excited about:


“They totally redesigned the system to where it's going to be faster for the operator, which will speed up the line of people waiting at the tag agencies and exam offices.”

Good thing my license expired like a year ago--now I won't have to wait as long at the DMV whenever I eventually get around to renewing it.

Larry OKC
08-24-2012, 12:59 PM
Is it really going to have "Veteran"? I hope that I can opt out of that. I don't care if anyone seeing my ID knows if I am a veteran or not. Seems like a blatant attempt to try to bribe officers to give veterans who break that law a little more 'flexibility'.

The last thing anyone in the military wants is for special treatment and not be held accountable for their actions.
As BoulderSooner pointed out it will be optional, from the article

The new card also will allow Oklahoma veterans to identify themselves as such with a special insignia. That option will be available beginning Nov. 1.

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-drivers-license-will-get-makeover/article/3703634#ixzz24UXM3ac1

Just the facts
08-24-2012, 02:04 PM
Thanks! I saw that later.

I still dislike it. :)

It smells of preferential treatment.

This ^. I didn't serve 6 years so I could get out of speeding tickets. I sure as hell don't want other bad drivers getting out of their tickets. Just wait until some DUI clown with a Veteran sticker kills someone and then we find out they were pulled over a couple of times and not ticketed. I served 6 years and got paid for it. The government doesn't owe me anything else.

Anyone know what Starship Troopers was really about?

Skyline
08-24-2012, 02:45 PM
The state should stop issuing the "drivers license" all together all it does is promote driving. Oklahoma needs more pedestrians, cyclists, and more people using mass transit..... This is my Just the Facts impersonation attempt. j/k

Mel
08-24-2012, 04:16 PM
They don't mention the gps tracking chips in the new liscense I see. Robert Heinlein was a socialist, and a bit of a perv in his latter adult scifi novels.

CaptDave
08-24-2012, 08:20 PM
This ^. I didn't serve 6 years so I could get out of speeding tickets. I sure as hell don't want other bad drivers getting out of their tickets. Just wait until some DUI clown with a Veteran sticker kills someone and then we find out they were pulled over a couple of times and not ticketed. I served 6 years and got paid for it. The government doesn't owe me anything else.

Anyone know what Starship Troopers was really about?

One of my favorite BOOKS. There are some days I wish we would adopt the basic premise....

CuatrodeMayo
08-24-2012, 08:32 PM
The new license reminds me somewhat of a MySpace page circa 2006...

Stryker2010
08-24-2012, 09:29 PM
Let's see. They rearranged the location of the pictures and info. Also changed the state seal to an American flag. Whoopee!

Shown is the Veteran logo. The Osage shield will be in it's place for the rest of us.

Stryker2010
08-24-2012, 09:31 PM
Is it really going to have "Veteran"? I hope that I can opt out of that. I don't care if anyone seeing my ID knows if I am a veteran or not. Seems like a blatant attempt to try to bribe officers to give veterans who break that law a little more 'flexibility'.

The last thing anyone in the military wants is for special treatment and not be held accountable for their actions.

It is optional. The only way a tag agent or DL Examiner will know that you are a Vet will be if you tell them.

venture
08-25-2012, 06:29 AM
Why can't they get rid of tha honky looking "Oklahoma" in script and replace it with how it is on our license plates.

WilliamTell
08-25-2012, 06:41 AM
This ^. I didn't serve 6 years so I could get out of speeding tickets. I sure as hell don't want other bad drivers getting out of their tickets. Just wait until some DUI clown with a Veteran sticker kills someone and then we find out they were pulled over a couple of times and not ticketed. I served 6 years and got paid for it. The government doesn't owe me anything else.



I agree. I also hate firefighter tags and police tags on licesnces plates. It really just shows how corrupt our country is becoming when those who we pay to enforce our laws are identifying themselves outside of their duty hours as being above it.

HewenttoJared
08-25-2012, 07:58 AM
Anyone know what Starship Troopers was really about?

haha I was about to say that

Bellaboo
08-25-2012, 08:36 AM
Emily looks pretty good for being in her 60's

She's a tall drink of water at 5' 10".......

OkieHornet
08-25-2012, 11:04 AM
Why can't they get rid of tha honky looking "Oklahoma" in script and replace it with how it is on our license plates.

Pfft. There you go being logical again. ;-)

kevinpate
08-25-2012, 04:57 PM
Ain't a thang wrong with a lady being a tall drink of watah.

- 30+ year spouse of a 5'9" drink of pure spring watah

Larry OKC
08-25-2012, 10:18 PM
They don't mention the gps tracking chips in the new liscense I see. Robert Heinlein was a socialist, and a bit of a perv in his latter adult scifi novels.
I recall a few years back the Legislature was requiring/talking about "digital fingerprint" technology being built into the drivers licenses...this was ahead of federal regulations after 9-11 etc. Don't know what happened, if it was ever implemented etc???

venture
08-26-2012, 11:51 AM
Pfft. There you go being logical again. ;-)

I know I know. I really need to stop doing that. LOL

bluedogok
08-26-2012, 12:04 PM
I recall a few years back the Legislature was requiring/talking about "digital fingerprint" technology being built into the drivers licenses...this was ahead of federal regulations after 9-11 etc. Don't know what happened, if it was ever implemented etc???
I think I had to have one for my Colorado license (this year), my previous Texas license did not have the requirement. I had the old, pre-magnetic strip Oklahoma license before moving to Texas in 2003.

Snowman
08-26-2012, 06:15 PM
Nevermind the aesthetics of the new license--this is what I'm excited about:



Good thing my license expired like a year ago--now I won't have to wait as long at the DMV whenever I eventually get around to renewing it.

When you do it it will take drastically less time if you go to a location that does not offer drivers tests, the one like two miles away from my house you literally have to be in line by the time it opens to get served by the time it closes. The location at MLK and 36th may be your best option.

kevinpate
08-27-2012, 12:03 AM
Elder son, a student in Mobile AL, forgot to renew his dl when he was home for a bit this summer. He now has a shiny new AL license. However, as he's also talking about staying put after graduation, that's probably for the best.

We're both good for a while still yet.

NoOkie
08-27-2012, 08:21 AM
I recall a few years back the Legislature was requiring/talking about "digital fingerprint" technology being built into the drivers licenses...this was ahead of federal regulations after 9-11 etc. Don't know what happened, if it was ever implemented etc???

My GA license from 12 years ago had a weird QR-code like section on the back that was a digitized record of my finger prints(all 10, if I recall correctly). I'm surprised you don't see that else where.

Plutonic Panda
09-16-2014, 03:41 PM
from News9


OK Driver's Licenses Not Secure; Will No Longer Be Accepted In Certain Areas

OKLAHOMA CITY - If you rely on your Oklahoma Driver's license to get into a secure area like a federal building or an airplane, things will be changing. Oklahoma is one of a handful of states that hasn't complied with a federal mandate to make our driver's licenses more secure.
Beginning in 2015, you won't be able to use your Oklahoma Driver's license as an ID to get through security at federal buildings. And in 2016 you won't be able to use it at the airport either.

“You would be required to have a driver's license or passport or some other federal ID to actually go through the TSA checkpoint or fly on a commercial aircraft,” explained Karen Carney, spokeswoman with the Will Rogers World Airport.

That's because back in 2005, Congress passed the REAL ID Act that would make it harder for terrorists to get fake ID's. But in 2007, Oklahoma passed a law forbidding compliance with the act.

On Tuesday the Department of Public Safety says because of that law it "is not taking steps to ensure compliance with the federal REAL ID Act, and has not implemented any policy or practice for the purpose of meeting any of the act's requirements."

- OK Driver's Licenses Not Secure; Will No Longer Be Accepted In C - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26549199/ok-drivers-licenses-not-secure-will-no-longer-be-accepted-in-certain-areas)

catch22
09-16-2014, 04:22 PM
God this state is so stupid. Why do we try to make things harder on ourselves? Will now need to carry a passport to fly anywhere.

We have to be one of the most stubborn and ass-backwards states in the Union.

Nick
09-16-2014, 04:50 PM
What a damn embarrassment.

BoulderSooner
09-16-2014, 05:04 PM
2016 is the earliest that it can be implemented for airports. Very doubtful that it will be

As always a very poorly sourced tv article

Plutonic Panda
09-16-2014, 05:40 PM
I honestly don't know much about this issue which is why I didn't say anything, but from what I read on the news article it doesn't good for the state and looks like this is yet another fail on their part.

venture
09-16-2014, 06:13 PM
2016 is the earliest that it can be implemented for airports. Very doubtful that it will be

As always a very poorly sourced tv article

Why wouldn't it be? Vast majority of everyone is already compliant, it is just a selective few that aren't.

REAL ID Enforcement in Brief | Homeland Security (http://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief)

In terms of not meeting the first benchmark for federal building access...

Alaska, American Samoa, Arizona, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Oklahoma, and Washington. Of those...MN, NY, and WA get a pass because they have the Enhanced Driver's Licenses already.

Stew
09-16-2014, 08:32 PM
So I'm going to need a passport to fly over Oklahoma's southern border? Holy smokes I guess it is true, Tejas is like whole other country. Mind BLOWN.

venture
09-16-2014, 11:23 PM
I like it. Super handy and a really smart idea. I wish every state offered it.

Yeah. After we move next year, we'll be going to a state that will have them and we will be getting them. It'll make it easy going over into Ontario on the weekends.

RadicalModerate
09-16-2014, 11:45 PM
Response to Post #1:


Here is a link from The Oklahoman: Oklahoma driver's license will get makeover | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-drivers-license-will-get-makeover/article/3703634)

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A sample of the redesigned Oklahoma driver’s license to be rolled out statewide over the next three to four months is shown. Photo provided by Oklahoma Department of Public Safety

Dang. Sumbitch. Nuff Sed. (I reckon) . . .
(go on about your business and slow down to the speed limit . . . 'kay?_)
(and the next time I catch you texting in the left turn lane it will be a ticket fer shure . . . =)

kevinpate
09-17-2014, 07:33 AM
At this point I am just happy I didn't have to jump through multiple hoops to renew mine when i was a couple weeks late. Hadn't looked at the DL for several several months, and had flat forgot it was this to renew this summer. Dropped the mini wallet a few weeks back and as I reloaded, I noticed the DL was expired.

Oh well, better to find out where I was standing than find out while looking out the window at an officer with a oh wow, guess I am that dumb look on my face.
Fortunately it was only a couple weeks out so go in, hand it over, a bit of minor ribbing at myself for being a dufus, and pay the normal fee.

Had I not lost my grip on the mini that day, I likely still would not know. I rarely write checks that are not mailed so no one ever asks for it anymore.

Bullet dodged. Had it been out a while longer, I think it would have been time to track down the extra hoops and hurdles outfit before getting a new one. (on edit - got curious and called. actually, up to one year, it can be renewed without a headache. better than I recalled.)

Zuplar
09-17-2014, 07:44 AM
So at that point would you have to have a passport or could you get by with a second ID? For example SDA license.

CuatrodeMayo
09-17-2014, 09:13 AM
God this state is so stupid. Why do we try to make things harder on ourselves? Will now need to carry a passport to fly anywhere.

We have to be one of the most stubborn and ass-backwards states in the Union.

The passage of the REAL ID Act had significant backlash (rightly or wrongly) after it became law. Oklahoma was only one of many states that passed legislation against the law. Also, keep in mind this act was signed into law by George W. Bush, not Obama.

REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act#State_adoption_and_non-compliance)

Jersey Boss
09-17-2014, 09:17 AM
The passage of the REAL ID Act had significant backlash (rightly or wrongly) after it became law. Oklahoma was only one of many states that passed legislation against the law. Also, keep in mind this act was signed into law by George W. Bush, not Obama.

REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act#State_adoption_and_non-compliance)

While many states may have passed feel good legislation against the law, only the citizens in 6 states are not in compliance with the law.

Jersey Boss
09-17-2014, 09:21 AM
Yeah. After we move next year, we'll be going to a state that will have them and we will be getting them. It'll make it easy going over into Ontario on the weekends.

You might want to double check on the ease of auto travel into Canada. Last I checked you need a passport regardless of real id status. You can however get a passport card for non air travel into Mexico or Canada. Passport cards are available for a reduced rate than what is charged for a passport. This past summer I was thinking of taking a train from NYC to MTL and I checked into what was needed.

UnclePete
09-17-2014, 11:23 AM
I don't plan on flying any where, but will there be a problem in going into Federal Buildings with only an Oklahoma DL?

Jersey Boss
09-17-2014, 12:53 PM
You can used your WA Enhanced DL to get into Canada. Not sure which state he's moving to but a WA EDL works at the border here.

Thanks for the information, Sid. Of course living in this state of rugged individualism I'll have to go the passport route.

Jersey Boss
09-17-2014, 01:05 PM
I don't plan on flying any where, but will there be a problem in going into Federal Buildings with only an Oklahoma DL?

From post # 31: "Beginning in 2015, you won't be able to use your Oklahoma Driver's license as an ID to get through security at federal buildings."

OklahomaNick
09-17-2014, 01:37 PM
I was told that the current Oklahoma drivers licenses were something like a 10 year contract with a certain company, and that the state would go with another company in the coming years, thus changing our licenses again.

Anyone with tag agency knowledge know anything about this?

Tigerguy
09-17-2014, 02:22 PM
Ah, I'm in luck. I'm only at the airport about once a month to fly somewhere. [/sarcasm]

ctchandler
09-17-2014, 03:44 PM
Venture,
But isn't a passport required to go into Canada (and Mexico) now? If so, the drivers license won't be asked for at TSA.
C. T.
Yeah. After we move next year, we'll be going to a state that will have them and we will be getting them. It'll make it easy going over into Ontario on the weekends.
I just noticed that somebody brought this up already. I should have read the rest of the comments before I opened my mouth.

bchris02
09-19-2014, 12:23 PM
http://www.news9.com/story/26549199/ok-drivers-licenses-not-secure-will-no-longer-be-accepted-in-certain-areas

This could be a big problem.

Jersey Boss
09-19-2014, 01:05 PM
OK Driver's Licenses Not Secure; Will No Longer Be Accepted In C - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/26549199/ok-drivers-licenses-not-secure-will-no-longer-be-accepted-in-certain-areas)

This could be a big problem.
Another example of the Oklahoma legislature tilting at wind mills. A solution would be a tax credit for everyone to get a passport. Seems like the legislature hands those credits out to all askers anyway.

Plutonic Panda
11-18-2015, 12:14 PM
Lawmakers Working To Make Oklahoma REAL ID Compliant - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/30549983/lawmakers-working-to-make-oklahoma-real-id-compliant)

jerrywall
11-18-2015, 01:00 PM
Considering the majority of states still don't support it, the timelines keep getting pushed further out, and the way it was pass and the opposition it has, I'm not sure I see REAL ID enforcement ever being put into place.

ljbab728
11-18-2015, 08:30 PM
Considering the majority of states still don't support it, the timelines keep getting pushed further out, and the way it was pass and the opposition it has, I'm not sure I see REAL ID enforcement ever being put into place.

From what I've seen, only 9 states are still non-compliant.

Bunty
11-18-2015, 08:33 PM
Since Republicans raised the price to get a drivers license or renew it, there should be money to update them.

jerrywall
11-19-2015, 01:29 AM
From what I've seen, only 9 states are still non-compliant.

30 states. Only 9 states don't have exemptetions or extensions.

ljbab728
11-19-2015, 08:57 PM
30 states. Only 9 states don't have exemptetions or extensions.

According to the Office of Homeland Security, 22 states are compliant without needing any exemptions or extensions.

REAL ID Enforcement in Brief | Homeland Security (http://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief)

jerrywall
11-19-2015, 09:17 PM
According to the Office of Homeland Security, 22 states are compliant without needing any exemptions or extensions.

REAL ID Enforcement in Brief | Homeland Security (http://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief)

Either way, without rechecking, the majoroty of states aren't in compliance. There's a reason they keep pushing the deadline back. Last I saw was 5 more rears for are travel. At the minimum.

bombermwc
06-07-2016, 07:00 AM
So here we are all these months later and we don't have a new plan in place. Good news, the feds extended the timeline a few more years to give us time to work it out.

So my question really is, why can't we get this done? Are there limitations with the ID printers that the state had everyone purchase (or does the state purchase them) at the tag agencies that they can't do certain things the Real ID needs them to do? For what i could tell in the regs, it didn't look like we had any major special features that were going to be required and that it was mostly layout changes but the state was fighting a pointless battle in trying to say the feds can't tell them what to do (im so shocked that we're wasting time on that....not). So what's the real meat of the problem as to why we can't get this done? If it's the latter, i get REAL tired of wasting time on things that have an outcome that wont change....like trying 19 times to overthrow the ACA. Or spending 3 years talking about Clinton's blowjobs instead of working on budgets/foreign policy/etc. I wonder what Afghanistan would have looked like if we had focussed on those issues instead of a BJ in the Oval Office?