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Roadhawg
01-02-2012, 02:22 PM
Was watching an old episode, they are all old, on Netflix and they had the old L&M cigarette commercial in it... was pretty funny to see the old cig commercials.

RadicalModerate
01-02-2012, 02:26 PM
Trivia Question: (no googlin' =)
What does L&M stand for (besides Law and (m)Order on Dragnet)?

And--for bonus points--what were the original and alternative meanings of LSMFT? =)

Roadhawg
01-02-2012, 02:38 PM
wasn't the MFT Mighty Fine Tasting? Can't remember the L&M but think it was the tobacco company

Jim Kyle
01-02-2012, 03:39 PM
Ligett and Myers, Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco

RadicalModerate
01-02-2012, 03:49 PM
We have a winner!!! =)

I love the way that Det. Cho--on The Mentalist--plays his part just like Jack Webb.

(Hilarity for an 8 year old, back around 1960: "lsmft": "loose strap means floppy tit" . . .)

Thunder
01-03-2012, 05:33 AM
the tobacco company

Correct!

I've used that brand a few times from Walmart. It was once competitive cheap rivaling Carnival, but Walmart quickly raised the prices. However, the competitive prices can be found inside the gas station at select Walmart stores.

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 07:06 AM
Trivia Question #2 (no Googling):
What was the number on the badge that filled the screen each week on Dragnet?

Trivia Question #3 (ditto):
At the end of the show, a couple of hands always appeared. One of them held a hammer and one of them held some sort of giant stamp. After a couple of blows with the hammer what impression did the stamp leave?

Roadhawg
01-03-2012, 07:52 AM
714

vii

I've watched a lot of Dragnet

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 08:01 AM
I guess so . . . =)

Think of all the subliminal advertising that 711 missed out on . . .

Trivia Question:
Aside from the fact that the program wasn't about fishing, what is "ironic" about the title "Dragnet"?

Roadhawg
01-03-2012, 08:19 AM
Joe Friday wore a dress?

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 08:29 AM
That beats my answer . . . (lol)

A "dragnet" is a large, coordinated, police effort designed to round up all of "the usual suspects" and bring them to justice--or at least in for questioning. On the show, I seem to recall that it was always just Sgt. Joe Friday (Jack Webb) and his sidekicks (Ben Alexander and, later, Harry Morgan) going around knocking on doors and asking confused old ladies in print dresses and various semi-baffled citizens about one relatively minor crime or another. Certainly not a "dragnet" . . . at least not "technically".

Perhaps a graph by HWTJ would clarify and prove this point. =)

Roadhawg
01-03-2012, 08:42 AM
I was watching the 1st season and I thought I heard Fridays partner call him lieutenant. I'll have to watch it again because I always thought he was a Sarge.

I was right

During the 1958–1959 season Friday was promoted to lieutenant. However, when the show returned in 1967 he was back to the sergeant rank without any on-screen explanation. (Webb later explained that in reality the lieutenant rank was more of a supervisory position and involved less investigatory time in the field, which would change the structure of the show.)

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 08:45 AM
He was a lieutenant, but got busted down to sergeant for showing up at roll call in that dress you mentioned.
They were a lot less tolerant of diversity back in those days.

Two of my favorite films are set around that era:
Mullholland Falls
L.A. Confidential

One of the films in my Top Ten--Chinatown--was set just a a few years before Dragnet.
I think Sgt. Friday was just a patrolman at the time.

Roadhawg
01-03-2012, 11:43 AM
I need to get off my Netflix habit... watched a Dragnet episode during lunch and it was one where kids go straight from pot to heroine... Joe Friday should have been in Reefer Madness *lol*

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 11:47 AM
I think it would have been really cool if Joe Friday could have made a cameo appearance in Season 1 of "The Wire" . . . "This is The City . . . Baltimore, Maryland . . . and I'm here to make sure that the line dividing black and white remains intact . . . The right and wrong line . . . not the other line . . ."

BB37
01-03-2012, 03:29 PM
Here's another Dragnet trivia question: The '67 series spawned two spinoff series.

Can anyone guess the titles?

RadicalModerate
01-03-2012, 03:37 PM
Was one of them Adam-12?

(i would really like to say that the other
was "Railroad Crossing Guards--Instead of Train Horns"
but i would probably be wrong about that too.)

Roadhawg
01-03-2012, 03:41 PM
Adam 12 is what I was going to say too. Adams Family? LOL

BB37
01-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Adam 12 is one. Any clues for the other?

MikeOKC
01-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Webb's two biggest hit shows after 'Dragnet' were 'Adam-12' and 'Emergency'. Though, my favorite was 'Hec Ramsey' (which I have all 11 episodes!).

BB37
01-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Webb's two biggest hit shows after 'Dragnet' were 'Adam-12' and 'Emergency'.

DING DING DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!! Emergency! was actually a spinoff of Adam-12, which was a spinoff of the 67-70 version of Dragnet.

There was also a Saturday morning animated version of Emergency!, called "Emergency + 4"

MikeOKC
01-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Jack Webb's greatest achivement, in my opinion, was the vastly underrated 'Pete Kelly's Blues' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048484/) movie from 1955. The signature Mark VII Limited hammer ending was used in that movie as well. There was a sort-lived TV series of PKB as well, but I've never seen an episode available to watch, though I'd love to see them.

Here's the original long-trailer for Pete Kelly's Blues...really a great movie...

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Roadhawg
01-04-2012, 07:59 AM
Jack Webb's greatest achivement, in my opinion, was the vastly underrated 'Pete Kelly's Blues' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048484/) movie from 1955. The signature Mark VII Limited hammer ending was used in that movie as well. There was a sort-lived TV series of PKB as well, but I've never seen an episode available to watch, though I'd love to see them.

Here's the original long-trailer for Pete Kelly's Blues...really a great movie...



I think Jack Webbs best movie was 'The DI'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riYfFQMPIP0

But I did add Pete Kelly's Blues to my Netflix.. looks good

kevinpate
01-04-2012, 09:26 PM
I think Jack Webbs best movie was 'The DI' ...

and it's Roadhawg for the win!

MikeOKC
01-04-2012, 10:15 PM
I think Jack Webbs best movie was 'The DI'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riYfFQMPIP0

But I did add Pete Kelly's Blues to my Netflix.. looks good

Glad you'll get to see it. Let me know what you think.

Yes! I like 'The D.I.' as well. In fact, after I saw your post, it made me think about it not being available on DVD. It had been a while since I checked and lo and behold, Warner Brothers has released it through their "Archive" program. (Manufacture DVD-R on Demand)...Amazon now carries many of the WB Archive MOD titles and I just ordered it. It's got lots of fans - 76 reviews and 4 1/2 stars at Amazon. I haven't seen it in years. That will be fun.

Good to find Jack Webb fans here. I have the entire run of Dragnet radio shows as mp3 files, a bunch of the 50's Dragnet TV show, and all the Dragnet 1967-1970 on DVD. It's amazing how well those old radio shows hold up. I listen to them quite a bit - over 300 episodes at 30 minutes each.

On edit: I had to go find this on YouTube and put it in the post. This is from a 1974 Jack Benny retirement special. It's the last time Webb and Harry Morgan played their roles as Friday and Gannon. It's truly funny!

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ljbab728
01-05-2012, 12:02 AM
LOL, that's a great video, Mike. No one has ever done a better slow take in comedy than Jack Benny.

Roadhawg
01-05-2012, 06:50 AM
Glad you'll get to see it. Let me know what you think.

Yes! I like 'The D.I.' as well. In fact, after I saw your post, it made me think about it not being available on DVD. It had been a while since I checked and lo and behold, Warner Brothers has released it through their "Archive" program. (Manufacture DVD-R on Demand)...Amazon now carries many of the WB Archive MOD titles and I just ordered it. It's got lots of fans - 76 reviews and 4 1/2 stars at Amazon. I haven't seen it in years. That will be fun.

Good to find Jack Webb fans here. I have the entire run of Dragnet radio shows as mp3 files, a bunch of the 50's Dragnet TV show, and all the Dragnet 1967-1970 on DVD. It's amazing how well those old radio shows hold up. I listen to them quite a bit - over 300 episodes at 30 minutes each.

On edit: I had to go find this on YouTube and put it in the post. This is from a 1974 Jack Benny retirement special. It's the last time Webb and Harry Morgan played their roles as Friday and Gannon. It's truly funny!

That was a good clip. I wish shows like that were still on. I just ordered the DI from Amazon, thanks for letting me know it was there. Netflix has all the old Dragnets and I watch them on the streaming part.

BB37
01-05-2012, 08:30 PM
LOL, that's a great video, Mike. No one has ever done a better slow take in comedy than Jack Benny.

But you'll never see Jack Webb better than this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTqHrS4E2M

MikeOKC
01-05-2012, 08:44 PM
But you'll never see Jack Webb better than this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpTqHrS4E2M


Classic.

Roadhawg
01-06-2012, 06:43 AM
That was great !!!!!!

Prunepicker
02-02-2012, 09:34 PM
Trivia Question #2 (no Googling):
What was the number on the badge that filled the screen each week
on Dragnet?
714.


Trivia Question #3 (ditto):
At the end of the show, a couple of hands always appeared. One of
them held a hammer and one of them held some sort of giant stamp.
After a couple of blows with the hammer what impression did the
stamp leave?
It was Jack Webb's hands and Mark IV.

MikeOKC
02-02-2012, 10:01 PM
714.

It was Jack Webb's hands and Mark IV.

Did anybody here see Jack Webb's 1959 movie called "-30-" the other night? TCM showed it along with The D.I....I had never seen -30- (a newspaper film -30- means "the end") and I was really glad to have had a chance to see it. It was presumed lost for quite some time, they then found a print with the quality considered only "fair" in the eighties, and now a print with a "pristine" grade has been found, remastered and is available from the Warner Archive (http://www.wbshop.com/Thirty-30/1000180170,default,pd.html?cgid=). Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/30-Remaster-Jack-Webb/dp/B0046JOV8S/) is also finally carrying Warner Archive DVD-R "Burn on Demand" titles. I've ordered mine.

http://valleyoftheashes.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/jack-webb-30.jpg

RadicalModerate
02-03-2012, 08:06 AM
Is that THE "David Nelson" (on the bongos)?
I'll bet he plays a hip, cub reporter whose beat is the smoky jazz and poetry clubs where you might find sultry dames (or chicks) like the one in the background.

Thanks for the tip on the movie.
If it's available on Netflix it will be added to the que . . .

ctchandler
02-03-2012, 09:42 AM
RadicalModerate,
That is David Nelson. I cheated and looked it up because I wasn't sure, even though I grew up with the Nelson's.
C. T.

RadicalModerate
02-03-2012, 09:56 AM
Sgt. Friday: So, Mr. Chandler, you say you grew up with the Nelsons.
CT: That's right.
Sgt. Friday: Then maybe you can tell me exactly what Ozzie did for a living.
CT: He was a bandleader.
Sgt. Friday: I think the keyword there is "was". Did you ever actually see him pick up a bandleader baton?
CT: No . . . I can't say that I did. But isn't it conductors who use batons and not necessarily bandleaders?
Sgt. Friday: Apparently you never tuned into Larry Welk's Show.
CT: I've seen it once or twice.
Sgt. Friday: What about Mitch Miller.
CT: Yes. I've seen it a couple of times.
Sgt. Friday: But what does that have to do with my original question?
CT: You mean about what Ozzie did for a living.
Sgt. Friday: That's right. He had no visible means of support. He just hung around the house. Donna Reed's husband came home from work. Ward Cleaver came home from work. "Kitten's" father came home from work. Ricky Ricardo came home from "The Clab". I'm wondering about Ozzie.
CT: Maybe he worked out of his home and cybercommuted.

Roadhawg
02-03-2012, 10:08 AM
I saw the DI was on but I was too late to record it :(

ctchandler
02-03-2012, 01:08 PM
RadicalModerate,
I love it. I wish I had your creative, or maybe perverse mind.
C. T.

Sgt. Friday: So, Mr. Chandler, you say you grew up with the Nelsons.
CT: That's right.

Prunepicker
02-03-2012, 05:04 PM
Did anybody here see Jack Webb's 1959 movie called "-30-" the other
night? TCM showed it along with The D.I.
Would have liked to have seen it. I don't own a TV.