View Full Version : 2011 BCS Discussion Thread



Pages : [1] 2 3

venture
10-15-2011, 11:42 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/i/ncf/bowls12/logos/trans/bcs_80.gif http://assets.espn.go.com/i/ncaa/logos/RoseBowlGame_80x80.png http://a.espncdn.com/i/ncf/bowls10/logos/trans/fiesta_80.gif http://assets.espn.go.com/i/ncaa/logos/SugarBowlGame_80x80.png http://a.espncdn.com/i/ncf/bowls11/logos/trans/orange_80.gif

First official rankings of the year come out on Sunday. Here are some free sites to get details and such for the BCS:

http://www.bcsfootball.org/

http://www.bcsguru.com/bcs_standings.htm

http://www.bcsknowhow.com/category/rankings/bcs-rankings

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football

How the BCS works: http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819597

venture
10-15-2011, 11:50 PM
Top 25 run down for results from Saturday 10/15/11. Shouldn't see much movement in the polls at all in the top 10. Highlights in red indicate a Top 25 team that lost to a lower ranked/unranked team.

#1 LSU - 38 vs. Tennessee - 7
#2 Alabama - 52 vs. Mississippi - 7
#3 Oklahoma - 47 vs. Kansas - 17
#4 Wisconsin - 59 vs. Indiana - 7
#5 Boise State - 63 vs. Colorado State - 13
#6 Oklahoma State - 38 vs. #22 Texas - 26
#7 Stanford - 44 vs. Washington State - 14
#8 Clemson 56 vs. Maryland - 45
#9 Oregon - 41 vs. #18 Arizona State - 27
#11 Michigan - 14 vs. #23 Michigan State - 28
#12 Georgia Tech - 21 vs. Virginia - 24
#15 South Carolina - 14 vs. Mississippi State - 12
#16 Illinois - 7 vs. Ohio State - 17
#17 Kansas State - 41 vs. Texas Tech - 34
#19 Virginia Tech - 38 vs. Wake Forest - 17
#20 Baylor - 28 vs. #21 Texas A&M - 55
#24 Auburn - 17 vs. Florida - 6

Thunder
10-15-2011, 11:57 PM
I was surprised when I learned about the BCS ranking starting today while watching the game last night. I thought we were dealing with BCS already. Lets hope OU goes straight to the top when its out tonight.

ljbab728
10-16-2011, 12:07 AM
I was surprised when I learned about the BCS ranking starting today while watching the game last night. I thought we were dealing with BCS already. Lets hope OU goes straight to the top when its out tonight.

Thunder, that's not going to happen and isn't important at this point. All OU has to do is keep winning and they'll be there.

Thunder
10-16-2011, 12:14 AM
Thunder, that's not going to happen and isn't important at this point. All OU has to do is keep winning and they'll be there.

mmmm, I like it like that. ;-)

venture
10-16-2011, 12:16 AM
I was surprised when I learned about the BCS ranking starting today while watching the game last night. I thought we were dealing with BCS already. Lets hope OU goes straight to the top when its out tonight.

5 or 6 of the computer rankings go all season long, but they aren't broadcast in the mainstream media. The Harris poll just started last weekend. Today (Sunday) will be the first time the Peter Wolfe computer poll will run and is the last "missing" component to the BCS. The BCS polls I've been posting for the last couple of weeks include only the data that is available.


Thunder, that's not going to happen and isn't important at this point. All OU has to do is keep winning and they'll be there.

Well I could see some issues coming up if Wisconsin, Stanford, and Clemson all win out. Boise State too I guess. I doubt we'll end up with 6 unbeatens this year.

ljbab728
10-16-2011, 12:21 AM
Well I could see some issues coming up if Wisconsin, Stanford, and Clemson all win out. Boise State too I guess. I doubt we'll end up with 6 unbeatens this year.

You're the only one I've heard of that thinks that. If OU wins out with the schedule they have left (which is much more difficult than any of those schools) they have nothing to worry about.

venture
10-16-2011, 12:29 AM
Yeah, and it all just depends on who tanks like Florida State or who maintains. I think many just assume OU will get there if they win out because that is how it has worked in the past. However, the Big Ten have a conference championship now so that could boost Wisconsin even more. Although they are pretty far back in the BCS composite score (0.7532 vs OU's 0.9498).

ljbab728
10-16-2011, 12:45 AM
Yeah, and it all just depends on who tanks like Florida State or who maintains. I think many just assume OU will get there if they win out because that is how it has worked in the past. However, the Big Ten have a conference championship now so that could boost Wisconsin even more. Although they are pretty far back in the BCS composite score (0.7532 vs OU's 0.9498).

Yes, but look at the dogs they might play in a Big Ten championship. OU has nothing to worry about as long as they win.

Easy180
10-16-2011, 06:59 AM
OU vs SEC champ if they win out...Now if OSU wins out then it might be more interesting

Roadhawg
10-16-2011, 09:40 AM
Still a lot of football left to play yet... but with the SEC, Big 10 having conference championships I wonder if that will help or hurt the Big 12.

venture
10-16-2011, 10:37 AM
Projected BCS for today...last computer poll won't be out until this evening. Here is a look at the raw data, sorry for the formatting but the forum doesn't allow tables to be displayed any better.

Interesting that OU has actually jumped LSU thanks to computer love.

Rank Pvs Team Rk Coach % Rk Harris % AH CM JS KM RB Cp Avg BCS Conf
1 1 Alabama 3 1399 0.9485 2 2728 0.9489 24 25 25 25 24 0.980 0.9591 SEC
2 3 Oklahoma 1 1434 0.9722 3 2714 0.9440 25 24 23 23 23 0.930 0.9487 B12
3 2 LSU 2 1409 0.9553 1 2813 0.9784 23 22 24 21 25 0.900 0.9446 SEC
4 5 Oklahoma State 7 1168 0.7919 6 2300 0.8000 22 23 21 24 21 0.870 0.8206 B12
5 4 Boise State 6 1170 0.7932 5 2353 0.8184 21 19 19 20 22 0.790 0.8006 MWC
6 8 Wisconsin 4 1244 0.8434 4 2432 0.8459 11 12 20 12 19 0.540 0.7431 B10
7 6 Clemson 8 1046 0.7092 8 2090 0.7270 19 18 22 22 20 0.790 0.7420 ACC
8 7 Stanford 5 1232 0.8353 7 2297 0.7990 14 14 11 3 17 0.420 0.6847 P12
9 10 Michigan 10 891 0.6041 10 1723 0.5993 20 21 13 14 9 0.560 0.5878 B10
10 13 Arkansas 11 871 0.5905 11 1691 0.5882 10 5 17 16 16 0.470 0.5496 SEC
11 12 Georgia Tech 12 805 0.5458 12 1621 0.5638 16 16 16 17 3 0.510 0.5399 ACC
12 14 Illinois 15 634 0.4298 14 1255 0.4365 18 17 18 15 13 0.630 0.4988 B10
13 11 Oregon 9 995 0.6746 9 1898 0.6602 0 0 10 0 18 0.100 0.4783 P12
14 18 Kansas State 18 462 0.3132 17 1018 0.3541 17 20 15 18 14 0.640 0.4358 B12
15 16 South Carolina 13 678 0.4597 15 1195 0.4157 13 11 0 13 6 0.300 0.3918 SEC
16 15 Nebraska 14 671 0.4549 13 1292 0.4494 5 4 9 2 15 0.200 0.3681 B10
17 19 Virginia Tech 17 523 0.3546 18 945 0.3287 6 3 5 8 8 0.220 0.3011 ACC
18 9 Texas 21 243 0.1647 20 562 0.1955 15 15 12 19 0 0.420 0.2601 B12
19 20 West Virginia 16 528 0.3580 16 1121 0.3899 4 0 3 0 0 0.030 0.2593 East
20 24 Arizona State 20 343 0.2325 19 731 0.2543 7 7 8 7 11 0.290 0.2589 P12
21 28 Baylor 24 185 0.1254 21 560 0.1948 9 9 0 11 2 0.200 0.1734 B12
22 23 Michigan State 19 431 0.2922 22 495 0.1722 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.1548 B10
23 27 Houston 22 200 0.1356 24 274 0.0953 12 13 1 4 0 0.170 0.1336 CUSA
24 26 Texas A&M 23 198 0.1342 23 346 0.1203 0 0 2 6 5 0.070 0.1082 B12
25 17 Auburn 29 33 0.0224 26 192 0.0668 1 0 14 5 10 0.160 0.0831 SEC
26 31 Penn State 25 77 0.0522 28 88 0.0306 3 6 7 9 0 0.160 0.0809 B10
27 29 North Carolina 28 43 0.0292 32 33 0.0115 8 8 4 10 0 0.200 0.0802 ACC
28 21 Florida 26 72 0.0488 25 206 0.0717 0 0 6 0 4 0.040 0.0535 SEC
29 33 Notre Dame 30 31 0.0210 29 87 0.0303 0 1 0 0 7 0.010 0.0204 Ind
30 30 Washington 27 52 0.0353 30 67 0.0233 0 0 0 0 12 0.000 0.0195 P12
31 32 South Florida 31 30 0.0203 27 89 0.0310 0 10 0 0 0 0.000 0.0171 East
32 45 Rutgers 36 8 0.0054 37 10 0.0035 2 2 0 1 0 0.030 0.0130 East
33 NR Wake Forest 32 22 0.0149 31 40 0.0139 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0096 ACC
34 36 Georgia 33 15 0.0102 33 32 0.0111 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0071 SEC
35 34 SMU 34 11 0.0075 34 30 0.0104 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0060 CUSA
36 22 Texas Tech 35 9 0.0061 35 19 0.0066 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0042 B12
37 NR TCU 38 4 0.0027 36 15 0.0052 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0026 MWC
38 39 Southern Miss 37 7 0.0047 39 2 0.0007 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0018 CUSA
39 41 Cincinnati 0 0.0000 38 8 0.0028 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0009 East
40 46 UL-Lafayette 0 0.0000 39 2 0.0007 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0002 Sun
41 NR Hawaii 39 1 0.0007 0 0.0000 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0002 WAC
42 25 Florida State 0 0.0000 41 1 0.0003 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.0001 ACC

Native Okie
10-16-2011, 10:54 AM
Playing Tulsa does not help us, with strength of schedule. You could add ball State to that as well.

kevinpate
10-16-2011, 11:28 AM
Playing Tulsa does not help us, with strength of schedule. You could add ball State to that as well.

Perhaps not, but for that matter, playing the annual cottonbowl gig this year likely dinna garner many tough opponent points either.

Thunder
10-16-2011, 12:18 PM
This is going to be extremely close with OU vs OSU.

What if LSU and Alabama fail? OU and OSU wins all game but OSU lose to against OSU. Where will that leave OSU? What if all other teams have at least two losses, but OSU have only one loss? Both OU and OSU are very high ranking so when OSU lose, they shouldn't drop much or stay in 2nd. I think later on. Ou will go to 1 and OSU go to 2. Wonder how much OSU will drop if only losing one game while others have at least two losses. I wish...just a wish...OU and OSU meet again in SEC country. LOL

Native Okie
10-16-2011, 01:47 PM
Sadly, OU and OSwho are at risk, On the horizon are the Boise States and Stanford. Both of whom should win out without too much trouble. Neither plays the difficulty of SEC or Big Ten or even Big 12 opponents week end week out. How many years will we have this discussion?

dankrutka
10-16-2011, 05:08 PM
Sadly, OU and OSwho are at risk, On the horizon are the Boise States and Stanford. Both of whom should win out without too much trouble. Neither plays the difficulty of SEC or Big Ten or even Big 12 opponents week end week out. How many years will we have this discussion?

No they are not. If they win out either OU or OSU will stay above those teams.

jn1780
10-16-2011, 05:53 PM
This is going to be extremely close with OU vs OSU.

What if LSU and Alabama fail? OU and OSU wins all game but OSU lose to against OSU. Where will that leave OSU? What if all other teams have at least two losses, but OSU have only one loss? Both OU and OSU are very high ranking so when OSU lose, they shouldn't drop much or stay in 2nd. I think later on. Ou will go to 1 and OSU go to 2. Wonder how much OSU will drop if only losing one game while others have at least two losses. I wish...just a wish...OU and OSU meet again in SEC country. LOL

All top five teams with two losses? Extremely unlikely. Someone in the top five most likely will end the season undefeated and there's a decent chance it will be two undefeated teams playing in the championship game with a third undefeated team complaining about how they should be playing in that game.

It will either be LSU or Alabama in the number 1 spot with everyone else fighting for number two.

Dustin
10-16-2011, 06:33 PM
OKLAHOMA : #3

Perfect.

betts
10-16-2011, 06:47 PM
If either Oklahoma or Oklahoma State run the table, they'll be playing for the NC, likely against Alabama or LSU. There is no chance Boise or Stanford beats them out for that position, as long as they win. If they lose, all bets are off. My son was at the 'Bama-OleMiss game this weekend, and he says 'Bama is loaded at every position but quarterback. Either team might be sorry they're playing them, in the long run.

venture
10-16-2011, 07:09 PM
So the last computer did not like OU at all, putting them 5th which is why they fell to 3rd in the final composite compared to what I put earlier. Oklahoma State is overall #1 in the computers.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

BCS Harris Poll USA Today Computer Rankings
RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 LSU .9522 NR 1 2819 .9891 2 1410 .9559 3 3 1 4 5 2 3 .920
2 Alabama .9519 NR 2 2744 .9628 3 1403 .9512 2 2 3 3 2 1 2 .950
3 Oklahoma .9301 NR 3 2684 .9418 1 1426 .9668 4 4 2 2 4 5 5 .890
4 Oklahoma State .8568 NR 6 2315 .8123 6 1173 .7953 1 1 4 1 1 4 1 .970
5 Boise State .8027 NR 5 2339 .8207 7 1172 .7946 6 6 5 5 7 8 6 .800
6 Wisconsin .7708 NR 4 2463 .8642 4 1262 .8556 11 10 8 14 17 6 12 .600
7 Clemson .7582 NR 8 2063 .7239 8 1028 .6969 5 5 6 6 3 3 4 .860
8 Stanford .7484 NR 7 2291 .8039 5 1222 .8285 8 8 9 8 20 15 10 .620
9 Arkansas .6263 NR 10 1805 .6333 10 931 .6312 8 15 11 17 8 7 8 .620
10 Oregon .6190 NR 9 1955 .6860 8 1028 .6969 12 16 7 16 13 11 18 .480
11 Kansas State .5688 NR 12 1457 .5112 16 678 .4597 7 7 10 7 6 9 7 .740
12 Virginia Tech .5048 NR 16 1259 .4418 14 688 .4664 10 12 13 9 9 14 9 .610
13 Nebraska .4972 NR 11 1484 .5207 11 775 .5254 15 17 12 15 16 12 16 .450
14 South Carolina .4914 NR 13 1396 .4898 12 765 .5186 13 9 15 13 12 20 17 .470
15 West Virginia .3730 NR 14 1359 .4768 14 688 .4664 21 23 25 20 18 19 24 .180
16 Michigan State .3288 NR 15 1290 .4526 13 690 .4678 24 25 19 23 0 0 23 .070
17 Texas A&M .3074 NR 19 779 .2733 18 415 .2814 18 18 18 22 10 16 15 .370
18 Michigan .2995 NR 17 914 .3207 17 458 .3105 20 14 20 10 23 0 20 .270
19 Houston .2863 NR 22 562 .1972 20 359 .2434 16 11 0 12 19 18 13 .420
20 Auburn .2645 NR 21 565 .1982 23 202 .1369 14 19 14 25 14 10 11 .460
21 Penn State .2311 NR 24 293 .1028 22 253 .1715 16 20 0 11 15 13 14 .420
22 Georgia Tech .1968 NR 18 839 .2944 19 396 .2685 27 24 0 24 25 0 0 .030
23 Illinois .1516 NR 20 571 .2004 21 260 .1763 22 22 22 18 0 0 0 .080
24 Texas .1348 NR NR 77 .0270 NR 26 .0176 19 13 0 19 11 17 19 .360
25 Washington .0871 NR 25 240 .0842 24 174 .1180 25 0 16 0 0 21 25 .060

dankrutka
10-16-2011, 07:54 PM
One computer would not affect OU's ranking, right? Aren't the highest and lowest computer rankings dropped?

jn1780
10-16-2011, 08:07 PM
So the last computer did not like OU at all, putting them 5th which is why they fell to 3rd in the final composite compared to what I put earlier. Oklahoma State is overall #1 in the computers.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs

BCS Harris Poll USA Today Computer Rankings
RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 LSU .9522 NR 1 2819 .9891 2 1410 .9559 3 3 1 4 5 2 3 .920
2 Alabama .9519 NR 2 2744 .9628 3 1403 .9512 2 2 3 3 2 1 2 .950
3 Oklahoma .9301 NR 3 2684 .9418 1 1426 .9668 4 4 2 2 4 5 5 .890
4 Oklahoma State .8568 NR 6 2315 .8123 6 1173 .7953 1 1 4 1 1 4 1 .970
5 Boise State .8027 NR 5 2339 .8207 7 1172 .7946 6 6 5 5 7 8 6 .800
6 Wisconsin .7708 NR 4 2463 .8642 4 1262 .8556 11 10 8 14 17 6 12 .600
7 Clemson .7582 NR 8 2063 .7239 8 1028 .6969 5 5 6 6 3 3 4 .860
8 Stanford .7484 NR 7 2291 .8039 5 1222 .8285 8 8 9 8 20 15 10 .620
9 Arkansas .6263 NR 10 1805 .6333 10 931 .6312 8 15 11 17 8 7 8 .620
10 Oregon .6190 NR 9 1955 .6860 8 1028 .6969 12 16 7 16 13 11 18 .480
11 Kansas State .5688 NR 12 1457 .5112 16 678 .4597 7 7 10 7 6 9 7 .740
12 Virginia Tech .5048 NR 16 1259 .4418 14 688 .4664 10 12 13 9 9 14 9 .610
13 Nebraska .4972 NR 11 1484 .5207 11 775 .5254 15 17 12 15 16 12 16 .450
14 South Carolina .4914 NR 13 1396 .4898 12 765 .5186 13 9 15 13 12 20 17 .470
15 West Virginia .3730 NR 14 1359 .4768 14 688 .4664 21 23 25 20 18 19 24 .180
16 Michigan State .3288 NR 15 1290 .4526 13 690 .4678 24 25 19 23 0 0 23 .070
17 Texas A&M .3074 NR 19 779 .2733 18 415 .2814 18 18 18 22 10 16 15 .370
18 Michigan .2995 NR 17 914 .3207 17 458 .3105 20 14 20 10 23 0 20 .270
19 Houston .2863 NR 22 562 .1972 20 359 .2434 16 11 0 12 19 18 13 .420
20 Auburn .2645 NR 21 565 .1982 23 202 .1369 14 19 14 25 14 10 11 .460
21 Penn State .2311 NR 24 293 .1028 22 253 .1715 16 20 0 11 15 13 14 .420
22 Georgia Tech .1968 NR 18 839 .2944 19 396 .2685 27 24 0 24 25 0 0 .030
23 Illinois .1516 NR 20 571 .2004 21 260 .1763 22 22 22 18 0 0 0 .080
24 Texas .1348 NR NR 77 .0270 NR 26 .0176 19 13 0 19 11 17 19 .360
25 Washington .0871 NR 25 240 .0842 24 174 .1180 25 0 16 0 0 21 25 .060

If I didn't read your posts carefully I would think you were talking about weather models. Can these BCS models be used to predict if we will see a lot of snow this winter? LOL

venture
10-16-2011, 08:16 PM
One computer would not affect OU's ranking, right? Aren't the highest and lowest computer rankings dropped?

Looking at OU specifically...

3 Oklahoma .9301 NR 3 2684 .9418 1 1426 .9668 4 4 2 2 4 5 5 .890

So we have two ranking OU 2nd, three ranking OU 4th, and two ranking OU 5th. So the earlier list had a 2nd place one removed and - at that time - the only 5th place computer removed. However, once the second 5th place computer came in, that drove the average lower since another low rank came in. So yes, highest and lowest were dropped...but a second lowest one of equal value was added into the mix.


If I didn't read your posts carefully I would think you were talking about weather models. Can these BCS models be used to predict if we will see a lot of snow this winter? LOL

LOL No doubt. I'm not sure if I would want to entrust the weather forecast to the BCS though. :-)

dmoor82
10-22-2011, 08:56 PM
OU is getting BLASTED 21-7 so far in the 1st half!OU's D looks like SHIOT!

jn1780
10-22-2011, 10:01 PM
OU is getting BLASTED 21-7 so far in the 1st half!OU's D looks like SHIOT!

Yeah, a lot of the past discussion about who will be number 1 or 2 is about to become irrelevant. Defense didn't show up tonight. Scared of thunderstorms apparently.

Thunder
10-22-2011, 10:50 PM
Where the hell is Ryan? Kenny not playing much? Whaley a crybaby not playing with upset tummy? My frickin gawd!

MDot
10-22-2011, 11:37 PM
Where the hell is Ryan? Kenny not playing much? Whaley a crybaby not playing with upset tummy? My frickin gawd!

Thunder, we're friends and all but you have absolutely no clue what it feels like to play in a football game and Whaley was really sick obviously, that's why he didn't play. I was injured one time and the largest venue I've ever played in is a High School stadium and I still had the weight on me of getting out there and playing but I couldn't play and I was out for 1 game and I was dying to get back in before kickoff of the game I had to sit out. Team doctors and coaches take precautionary measures for the safety of the player and ultimately is the main reason he didn't play cause trust me, he wanted to. OU just sucked as a whole tonight, you can't blame Broyles, Stills, or a sick player, a loss is put on the entire team not an individual.

dmoor82
10-22-2011, 11:41 PM
^^Agreed,Special teams,defense and the offense sucked!I predict a loss next week too,I hope they win but maybe this year can be salvaged by a BCS bowl?

MDot
10-22-2011, 11:45 PM
^^Agreed,Special teams,defense and the offense sucked!I predict a loss next week too,I hope they win but maybe this year can be salvaged by a BCS bowl?

Maybe if KS gets a good ranking tonight and we go into Manhattan and beat a possibly Top 10 team then we may have a chance of gaining some of the ground back that we lost.

MDot
10-22-2011, 11:53 PM
Oh, and BTW Thunder, Kenny Stills had 2 touchdown grabs, one was a 58-yarder and had 8 catches for 135 yards, so to possibly even try to consider blaming Stills of all people is even more "silly" of you. :LolLolLol

Just the facts
10-22-2011, 11:55 PM
Mods - please close this thread. It is irrelevant now. :whiteflag

MDot
10-23-2011, 12:00 AM
Mods - please close this thread. It is irrelevant now. :whiteflag

Oklahoma State's still going strong. Untill they play Texas Tech atleast. Lol

MikeOKC
10-23-2011, 12:02 AM
Mods - please close this thread. It is irrelevant now. :whiteflag

Irrelevant for OU. Very relevant for Oklahoma State, Alabama, LSU, Boise State, Stanford and Kansas State. Did I just type Kansas State?

MDot
10-23-2011, 12:07 AM
Irrelevant for OU. Very relevant for Oklahoma State, Alabama, LSU, Boise State, Stanford and Kansas State. Did I just type Kansas State?

Wait... You typed Kansas State? It's a sad time in America when Kansas State becomes relevant. What's next, Ole' Miss will win 70 in a row surpassing OU's 47 game winning streak?

Thunder
10-23-2011, 12:11 AM
Mods - please close this thread. It is irrelevant now. :whiteflag

What the hell? This thread has nothing to do with OU directly.

venture
10-23-2011, 12:27 AM
Whaley a crybaby not playing with upset tummy? My frickin gawd!

Actually he was out with sickness from a possible concussion. So I guess you would rather he risk his life or long term brain damage?


Mods - please close this thread. It is irrelevant now. :whiteflag

Go thing this isn't an OU specific thread. :-P

jn1780
10-23-2011, 12:45 AM
What the hell? This thread has nothing to do with OU directly.

He's joking. Its no secret that this thread has been OU centric. Looking back at the posts I don't think I see one post other than Venture's weekly BCS postings that isn't debating about whether or not OU will be in BCS game or not.

Now it will become OSU centric until they lose or the season ends. Lol

MDot
10-23-2011, 11:40 AM
He's joking. Its no secret that this thread has been OU centric. Looking back at the posts I don't think I see one post other than Venture's weekly BCS postings that isn't debating about whether or not OU will be in BCS game or not.

Now it will become OSU centric until they lose or the season ends. Lol

Who would've ever imagined that OSU was the better team in Oklahoma record wise and had a better chance of getting into the NC game than OU.

venture
10-23-2011, 12:08 PM
Coaches poll details below. Also project BCS is going to look something like this:

BCS Standings
1 LSU (8-0)
2 Alabama (8-0)
3 Oklahoma State (7-0)
4 Boise State (7-0)
5 Clemson (8-0)
6 Stanford (7-0)
7 Oregon
8 Arkansas
9 Oklahoma
10 Kansas State (7-0)
11 Michigan State
12 Virginia Tech
13 South Carolina
14 Nebraska
15 Wisconsin
16 Texas A&M
17 Houston (7-0)
18 Michigan
19 Penn State
20 Arizona State
21 Texas Tech
22 Georgia
23 Texas
24 West Virginia
25 Auburn

Coaches Poll
No. School Record Points Prev
1 LSU (41) 8-0 1457 2
2 Alabama (18) 8-0 1434 3
3 Stanford 7-0 1327 5
4 Oklahoma State 7-0 1301 6
5 Boise State 7-0 1213 7
6 Clemson 8-0 1174 8
7 Oregon 6-1 1121 8
8 Arkansas 6-1 974 10
9 Oklahoma 6-1 964 1
10 Michigan State 6-1 932 13
11 Wisconsin 6-1 867 4
12 Kansas State 7-0 827 16
13 Nebraska 6-1 798 11
14 South Carolina 6-1 730 12
15 Virginia Tech 7-1 729 14
16 Texas A&M 5-2 520 18
17 Michigan 6-1 519 17
18 Houston 7-0 507 20
19 Penn State 7-1 448 22
20 Arizona State 5-2 253 25
21 Georgia 5-2 208 26
22 Texas Tech 5-2 180 0
23 Cincinnati 6-1 159 31
24 West Virginia 5-2 155 14
25 Southern Mississippi 6-1 128 31
Others Receiving Votes: Texas(4-2) 49; Georgia Tech(6-2) 39; TCU(5-2) 33; Baylor(4-2) 29; Illinois(6-2) 22; Washington(5-2) 20; Iowa(5-2) 14; Syracuse(5-2) 10; Brigham Young(

MDot
10-23-2011, 01:05 PM
I figured OU would drop lower than #9 but I'll take it if they do in fact only fall that far.

Thunder
10-23-2011, 02:12 PM
What kind of bad behavior did Bobby do to drop him down in the Coaches poll?

MDot
10-23-2011, 02:32 PM
What kind of bad behavior did Bobby do to drop him down in the Coaches poll?

Lost to Texas Tech at home. Lol

venture
10-23-2011, 04:33 PM
What kind of bad behavior did Bobby do to drop him down in the Coaches poll?

Umm...the Coaches Poll isn't ranking the coach specifically. LOL

MDot
10-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Umm...the Coaches Poll isn't ranking the coach specifically. LOL

I'll explain.

Thunder, the Coaches Poll is a poll that the coaches cast. As in, the Coaches rank the teams and the higher amount of votes a team has the higher they'll be ranked in the Coaches Poll.

venture
10-23-2011, 07:02 PM
Here is the matrix of everything...(pretty version go here: http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs)

BCS Harris Poll USA Today Computer Rankings
RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 LSU .9702 1 1 2854 .9927 1 1457 .9878 3 3 1 3 2 3 3 .930
2 Alabama .9627 2 2 2777 .9659 2 1434 .9722 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 .950
3 Oklahoma State .9240 4 3 2559 .8901 4 1301 .8820 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1.000
4 Boise State .8302 5 5 2410 .8383 5 1213 .8224 5 5 4 4 6 8 6 .830
5 Clemson .8240 7 6 2346 .8160 6 1174 .7959 4 6 5 5 4 4 4 .860
6 Stanford .8124 8 4 2523 .8776 3 1327 .8997 9 7 6 8 14 21 9 .660
7 Oregon .6877 10 7 2136 .7430 7 1121 .7600 12 14 7 12 12 12 12 .560
8 Kansas State .6681 11 10 1764 .6136 12 827 .5607 5 4 9 6 5 5 5 .830
9 Oklahoma .6642 3 8 1866 .6490 9 964 .6536 7 8 8 7 8 11 14 .690
10 Arkansas .6581 9 9 1851 .6438 8 974 .6603 8 12 11 15 7 6 7 .670
11 Michigan State .5380 16 11 1760 .6122 10 932 .6319 15 18 10 16 17 17 17 .370
12 Virginia Tech .5338 12 15 1343 .4671 15 729 .4942 10 11 16 10 9 10 8 .640
13 South Carolina .5014 14 14 1378 .4793 14 730 .4949 13 10 17 11 11 14 15 .530
14 Nebraska .4385 13 13 1508 .5245 13 798 .5410 21 20 13 18 22 23 19 .250
15 Wisconsin .4333 6 12 1731 .6021 11 867 .5878 24 24 12 23 0 25 21 .110
16 Texas A&M .4281 17 17 1040 .3617 16 520 .3525 11 13 14 17 10 7 10 .570
17 Houston .3676 19 18 975 .3391 18 507 .3437 14 9 0 9 16 0 11 .420
18 Michigan .3416 18 16 1072 .3729 17 519 .3519 19 15 20 13 21 24 18 .300
19 Penn State .3071 21 19 769 .2675 19 448 .3037 17 16 23 14 18 19 16 .350
20 Texas Tech .2012 NR 21 407 .1416 22 180 .1220 18 22 15 25 13 13 20 .340
21 Arizona State .1633 NR 20 542 .1885 20 253 .1715 23 25 21 22 24 20 24 .130
22 Georgia .1594 NR 22 337 .1172 21 208 .1410 22 19 0 20 20 18 23 .220
23 Auburn .1310 20 NR 60 .0209 NR 3 .0020 15 21 18 0 15 9 13 .370
24 Texas .1187 24 25 152 .0529 NR 49 .0332 20 17 0 19 19 15 22 .270
25 West Virginia .0733 15 23 330 .1148 24 155 .1051 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

venture
10-23-2011, 07:35 PM
So OU didn't do to bad, they dropped 6 spots officially. Wisconsin was dropped 9 spots. So it could have been worse for us. As far as one loss teams...OU has only Oregon ahead of it now. However, how likely is it that OU can make it to New Orleans still...for the last bowl there (the NCG)? Well let's break down each school. As far as rankings, I am using this week's since that is what matters.

Top 25 Teams Only

LSU - Victories against Oregon (#7), West Virginia (#25), and Auburn (#23). They still play #2 Alabama and #10 Arkansas. If they beat Alabama, they'll play at the SEC CG against a team that will be ranked #7 to #15 if SC or UGA keep winning.

Alabama - Win against Arkansas (#10). Upcoming ranked games #1 LSU and #23 Auburn. Overall a much easier schedule compared to LSU. If they lose against LSU, they are probably out of it unless others lose a 2nd time.

Oklahoma State - Wins against TAMU (#16) and Texas (#24). They still have to play #8 KSU, #20 TTU, and #9 OU. They win out and they are going to New Orleans. They are also overall #1 in the computers with only 1 computer ranking them 2nd.

Boise State - Win against #22 Georgia. Upcoming Top 25...none. TCU might be ranked in the Top 25 by the time they play, but if they win TCU drops back out. Same like Stanford...1 lost and they are done. They play very winnable games for the rest of the year, except TCU, so they should be okay. However, we have seen how things go.

Clemson - Wins against #12 Virginia Tech and #23 Auburn. Upcoming Top 25 features...#13 South Carolina. Not a great schedule at all. Again, don't schedule Troy and Wofford. One lost and they are out and I really expect them to lose probably 2 games - and one is next week.

Stanford - Wins against umm errr...well zero Top 25 teams (as of this week). Upcoming top 25 matches is #7 Oregon and...and yeah. They have to win out and hope they face Arizona State in the PAC 12 CG otherwise they are going to get jumped. They lose 1 and they are completely done. Sorry - schedule people other than SDSU and Duke.

Oregon - First 1-loss team in this list and that came against #1 LSU. They do have 1 top 25 win over Arizona State which is now #21. That blow out win at Missouri State isn't going to do much for them though. LOL The upcoming game at Stanford - #6 - will determine who goes to the PAC 12 CG and face Arizona State (again)...perhaps. If ASU loses then the chances of a PAC 12 team going to the title game is pretty slim.

Kansas State - For a team that barely beat Eastern Kentucky, they are getting better every week. They have one Top 25 win over Texas Tech (20), but have a nasty stretch of 4 games coming up. This reminds me a lot of the OU schedule in 2000. This week they have #9 OU, then #3 OSU, then #16 TAMU, and then #24 Texas before finishing up against ISU. If they win out, hello BCS...WTF?! If they lose against OU, but win the final 4 they could still be in the running if other teams lose ahead of them. I know...duh.

Oklahoma - Win over #24 Texas, but loss to #20 Texas Tech. Games ahead #8 KSU, #16 TAMU, and #3 OSU. The Baylor game would mean more if they get back into the Top 25. Still some high quality games there that can get OU back in the thick of it. If they beat KSU and A&M, they very well could be back to #3 or 4 by the time they face OSU (who should be 2nd at the time). So it very well could still be Bedlam = Semifinal for BCS CG.

The other possible contenders...Arkansas still has SC and LSU to come. Michigan State is out of ranked teams to help. The Big Ten CG could help...but it is Big Ten. Be happy with the Rose Bowl you Legendary Leaders. Virginia Tech is done. South Carolina has Arkansas, Clemson, and maybe a SEC CG. Wisconsin has umm...no one left. Nebraska has #11 Michigan State, #18 Michigan, and #19 Penn State.

All in all...for those with interest in the state's schools, we aren't in a bad shape. Win out and you still get to go - more than likely. If OU loses one more they are completely out. OSU...it is better to lose early instead of late, but it might be getting too late at this point.

MDot
10-23-2011, 11:26 PM
That would be so awesome to see OSU in New Orleans even though they'd get stomped. Lol if any year within the past 3-4 years was their year, it'd be this year.

onthestrip
10-24-2011, 08:20 AM
Oklahoma State's still going strong. Untill they play Texas Tech atleast. Lol

Tech wins at OU and theyre automatically one of the best teams in the land? It will be a tough game, as they all are in the big 12, but weve already won on the road against a&m, mizzou and texas. I like our chances.

Roadhawg
10-24-2011, 09:45 AM
I'll be heading up to Lincoln next weekend to watch the Husker/Mich, State game, hope the Huskers play better than they did against Wisc.

MDot
10-24-2011, 12:18 PM
Tech wins at OU and theyre automatically one of the best teams in the land? It will be a tough game, as they all are in the big 12, but weve already won on the road against a&m, mizzou and texas. I like our chances.

Lol where did I or anyone else say Tech was one of the best teams in the land? Lol congratulations, you're officially the first person to put words in my mouth since I started posting on OKCTalk. You, however, are not the first to take a sarcastic statement I made and make something out of nothing. That's all it was, sarcastic, so don't take it up the butt to hard homie.

If you want to know how I truly feel about this game then I'll tell you. OSU 56-35. It'll be close untill about midway through the 3rd quarter, then OSU does what OSU always does. No loss to Tech bro. Tech may be good enough to keep up with OU on an off night but they're not good enough to get in a shootout with the Pokes.

MDot
10-24-2011, 12:29 PM
Tech wins at OU and theyre automatically one of the best teams in the land? It will be a tough game, as they all are in the big 12, but weve already won on the road against a&m, mizzou and texas. I like our chances.

And I think I made that comment sometime in the 3rd quarter, more towards the start of it. Lol Tech hadn't technically won yet. Lol

MDot
10-24-2011, 12:35 PM
I'll be heading up to Lincoln next weekend to watch the Husker/Mich, State game, hope the Huskers play better than they did against Wisc.

That should be a good game IMO. I wouldn't be shocked if Michigan State wins, I wouldn't be shocked if Nebraska wins. Hope it turns into a high scoring shootout. ;-)

Roadhawg
10-24-2011, 02:30 PM
That should be a good game IMO. I wouldn't be shocked if Michigan State wins, I wouldn't be shocked if Nebraska wins. Hope it turns into a high scoring shootout. ;-)

Hopefully Martinez won't have to pass too much *lol*

Thunder
10-24-2011, 04:48 PM
Lol where did I or anyone else say Tech was one of the best teams in the land? Lol congratulations, you're officially the first person to put words in my mouth since I started posting on OKCTalk. You, however, are not the first to take a sarcastic statement I made and make something out of nothing. That's all it was, sarcastic, so don't take it up the butt to hard homie.

If you want to know how I truly feel about this game then I'll tell you. OSU 56-35. It'll be close untill about midway through the 3rd quarter, then OSU does what OSU always does. No loss to Tech bro. Tech may be good enough to keep up with OU on an off night but they're not good enough to get in a shootout with the Pokes.

I don't think the person was talkin to/about you... The person was talking about how TT magically jumped from the lowest rank to 20th.

MDot
10-24-2011, 04:59 PM
I don't think the person was talkin to/about you... The person was talking about how TT magically jumped from the lowest rank to 20th.

Thunder, Tech was 4-2, their only losses were to Texas A&M and Kansas State, both are in the Top 25. Tech wasn't bad to begin with, and they definately weren't the lowest ranked team in the country. He responded to my post so he was talking to me, if he wasn't he shouldn't have picked my post as a quote. I basically said that OSU will lose to Tech sarcasticly and he took it and turned it into Tech was the best team in the country which I never said. Thanks anyways though Thunder.

MDot
10-24-2011, 05:04 PM
And also Thunder, Tech beat and pretty much manhandled the #3 team in the country at home and they hadn't lost at home in 39 straight games dating back to '05 so Texas Tech didn't just magically jump to #20, they earned #20. IMO they have had a pretty good year so far with a VERY impressive win.

MDot
10-24-2011, 05:11 PM
I still love you though Thunder. :-) you're my buddy. ;-)

venture
10-24-2011, 06:18 PM
In the BCS, TTU was #40 last week.

Good place to look: http://www.bcsguru.com/bcs_standings.htm

They will show current week and previous week rankings. Their rankings include any schools that get any votes in the Harris or Coaches poll. The actual BCS though will completely calculate all FBS and FCS schools out and rank them together.

MDot
10-24-2011, 09:02 PM
Hopefully Martinez won't have to pass too much *lol*

:LolLolLol I'm sure all Cornhusker fans feel the same way.