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bombermwc
09-02-2011, 07:29 AM
^ well that would mean i would not shop there then. Raise your hands on the number of people with an AMX card? cricket cricket.

Okie Yorker
09-02-2011, 10:36 AM
I think Costco would be a great fit for OKC...Their fresh meat (steaks, burgers, etc.) is actually very good for a warehouse club. Many people speculate that OKC is being passed over for Trader Joes / Costco because of Liquor Laws.....I don't know if I buy into that argument as if you look at North Jersey, for example, liquor laws are even more stringent than OKC. Not only can a grocery store NOT sell wine/hard liquor, but they also are prohibited from selling BEER! There are numerous Costco's / Trader Joes in the NNJ suburbs of NYC in Passaic, Hudson, Bergen, Essex, Morris and other counties despite the restrictive liquor laws. They recently opened Costco up in Omaha, NE, which has a singificantly smaller population than metro OKC, so hopefully they will consider us soon.

bluedogok
09-02-2011, 09:35 PM
^ well that would mean i would not shop there then. Raise your hands on the number of people with an AMX card? cricket cricket.
I don't have an AMEX card (my wife has one for work), I have had one in the past, both a personal and business Amex. We just used cash or our credit union Visa/debit card at the Costco store. Their website does take Visa/Mastercard because I have bought some stuff off Costco.com with them.

windowphobe
09-03-2011, 10:24 PM
I do, in fact, carry American Express. There have been times when I carried only American Express.

bombermwc
09-08-2011, 06:31 AM
If it were the liquor law, then we wouldn't have Whole Foods in Oklahoma either. There are plenty easy ways to make it work, you just to design it into the building (ie a segregated area with a seperate entrance). It's not really that difficult to make it work, but it does require about 5 minutes of effort on the architect's part to put in a wall and a door. If someone says it's the liquor law, then they are just making an excuse because you can still sell it, you just have to figure out an "out-of-the-box" way to do it.....it doesn't HAVE to be in the same room as everything else you sell.

I'd like to see a World Market, but they sell wine as well. But even then, they could do the same thing.

bluedogok
09-08-2011, 09:11 PM
Oklahoma also requires separate ownership by a resident of 10 years. Even though I lived 37 years of my life in Oklahoma but I have lived the past 8 in Texas, I could not qualify for a liquor store license. You are also limited to one license per person, these regulations are strictly to reduce competition from not only companies outside of Oklahoma but by those inside Oklahoma who would have the financial ability to open up multiple stores. The Costco "liquor store" at the ones here in Austin are completely separate and leased to an independent operator, you don't need a Costco card in there. The difference is the beer/wine is sold in the Costco proper (or Sam's Club) and therefore it is their profit and not the person who leased space from them. A beer/wine license in Texas is much more open than a liquor license which has limit of 5 licenses per person, families can pool licenses under one store name but each store is under a different operating company, this is how the Spec's and Twin Liquors chains have been built down here. Also the no refrigeration on liquor store beer or wine is ridiculous and the "no accessories" is ridiculous as well. Half the time that I go into Spec's I don't even buy alcohol, I buy some of their foods, imported waters (for my wife) or their selection of sodas, that is not an option in an Oklahoma liquor store.

Some of the small operators like it just the way it is because they don't have to worry much about competition because stores have a hard time differentiating themselves from one another. There are those that try but there is only so much they can do.

MikeOKC
09-08-2011, 10:39 PM
I do, in fact, carry American Express. There have been times when I carried only American Express.

Same here. I've had my Amex card since 1982. I rarely use anything else.

BBatesokc
09-09-2011, 07:49 AM
^ well that would mean i would not shop there then. Raise your hands on the number of people with an AMX card? cricket cricket.

While I have VISA and MC, my AMEX is the only card I use unless I have no other option. I've found them to have great customer service and perks. The AMEX I have gives me a generous additional warranty and return policy on my electronic goodies, access to VIP areas at lots of airports, free companion airline seats when I buy one at full fare, etc.