View Full Version : Will the SUN Super-Nova Within the Next 30 Days?



jmarkross
06-09-2011, 06:14 PM
Just a thought...someone whose opinion I respect who is well-acquainted with the Solar System....says he sees a problem with the Sun...

PennyQuilts
06-09-2011, 06:55 PM
Crap, as if I don't already have enough things to worry about.

Midtowner
06-09-2011, 07:12 PM
Where is Thunder? I want his opinion.

dmoor82
06-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Where is Thunder? I want his opinion.

ha,I need a laugh errrr... I mean an opinion as well!

dmoor82
06-09-2011, 07:15 PM
I mean it could happen but nobody knows for sure.Scientist think that the Sun and our Solar system are around 4-4.5 Billion years of age and they seem to believe that the Sun has burned off half of it's energy but really nobody knows!

lake hefner breeze
06-10-2011, 11:40 AM
Seems like a pretty kick-ass way of going out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU

Jesseda
06-10-2011, 12:44 PM
im stupid, so what exactly is a super nova.. it sounds like a energy frink

venture
06-10-2011, 12:56 PM
im stupid, so what exactly is a super nova.. it sounds like a energy frink

Simple version, it is when a star explodes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

OKCisOK4me
06-10-2011, 02:19 PM
Before a star supernovas, do you know how long it takes it to red giant? For those of you that's like a 100,000 times bigger than the sun is now. It would take a lot longer than 30 days. It's not just gonna blow up in its current state, lol.

Thunder
06-10-2011, 02:50 PM
jmarkross, there is nothing to be worried about anytime soon. Especially in our lifetime. You are aware of a recent explosion on the sun a few days ago and because of that, your paranoia kicked in. Relax, this is only an active period for the sun and the Geomagnetic Storm will not have much impact other than possible slight disturbance to our radio, radar, compass, etc...which had already gone passed a few days ago. This is not the end of the world. Here is a video, purely for education and self entertainment...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyi4hjG6kDM

USG'60
06-10-2011, 03:06 PM
Mark is not REALLY concerned. He's funning us, probably more specifically YOU, ya silly goose.

windowphobe
06-10-2011, 04:24 PM
And if the sun does go KABOOM (which it shouldn't, since there is no air in space to carry the sound of an earth-shattering KABOOM), it'll be about eight minutes before we're actually quick-fried to a crackly crunch.

jmarkross
06-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Before a star supernovas, do you know how long it takes it to red giant? For those of you that's like a 100,000 times bigger than the sun is now. It would take a lot longer than 30 days. It's not just gonna blow up in its current state, lol.

So--who REALLY knows how long it takes? All is conjecture based on *zippo*. All the same...I am working furiously on concentrating some lotion into SPF800,000,000,000,000 sunblock--just in case. What I heard was more about the internal integrity of the mass itself--coming apart somehow, perhaps...

MadMonk
06-10-2011, 06:20 PM
Someone needs to place an infant child into a capsule and launch it into space toward a blue sun so that he or she has amazing powers when as he grows up. I base my theory of what color sun to choose based on the ROYGBIV color spectrum. Superman went from red to yellow, so it follows that someone from a yellow-sun system needs to go two notches further down the spectrum to a blue sun, or to be safe, maybe an Indigo sun. Anyone know of one?

kevinpate
06-10-2011, 06:25 PM
Someone needs to place an infant child into a capsule and launch it into space toward a blue sun so that he or she has amazing powers when as he grows up. I base my theory of what color sun to choose based on the ROYGBIV color spectrum. Superman went from red to yellow, so it follows that someone from a yellow-sun system needs to go two notches further down the spectrum to a blue sun, or to be safe, maybe an Indigo sun. Anyone know of one?

Sorry, closest I can get is an indigo son with a burning heart for the lovely smurfette.

jmarkross
06-10-2011, 11:18 PM
Someone needs to place an infant child into a capsule and launch it into space toward a blue sun so that he or she has amazing powers when as he grows up. I base my theory of what color sun to choose based on the ROYGBIV color spectrum. Superman went from red to yellow, so it follows that someone from a yellow-sun system needs to go two notches further down the spectrum to a blue sun, or to be safe, maybe an Indigo sun. Anyone know of one?

By God--he's on to something!

jmarkross
06-10-2011, 11:20 PM
By God--he's on to something! And--does not Nan Pelosi resemble the Woman Ursa? Think about it...

MikeOKC
06-10-2011, 11:52 PM
JMark,

Outside of the recent increase in solar eruptions, the only thing I found was this...could this have been what he was talking about?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/nasa-voyager-bubbles-solar-system-heliosphere_n_874733.html

jmarkross
06-10-2011, 11:59 PM
JMark,

Outside of the recent increase in solar eruptions, the only thing I found was this...could this have been what he was talking about?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/nasa-voyager-bubbles-solar-system-heliosphere_n_874733.html

Interesting article.

What I had heard was from a man who worked at Cal-Tech and JPL for many years...who spent an inordinate amount of time on the heavens. He usually seems to have well-founded thoughts.

rag451
06-11-2011, 06:30 AM
I say let's strap Al Gore to a rocket and send him to investigate this new phenomenon of Galactic Warming...

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 11:53 AM
No.

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 11:56 AM
I say let's strap Al Gore to a rocket and send him to investigate this new phenomenon of Galactic Warming...

He doesn't do much investigating. He just reports the findings of actual scientists and gets ridiculed for it.

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 11:57 AM
Where is Thunder? I want his opinion.

I was shocked to find he was not the author.

PennyQuilts
06-11-2011, 11:59 AM
He doesn't do much investigating. He just reports the findings of actual scientists and gets ridiculed for it.

As much as anything else, he is ridiculed for his shockingly greenless lifestyle and the nice chunk of change he gets from being the climate change guru.

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 12:05 PM
His life is pretty close to carbon-neutral and he already lives under the costs he thinks will be needed to make the changes necessary. The pieces you read about his "non-green" lifestyle are ridiculous slander built to prey on the ignorance of the reader and make them associate this supposed hypocrisy with the scientific reality that we are destroying our livable climate. Then people can choose to believe what they want without ever investigating the situation.

Apparently it is working:


I think the only questions have been whether man is what is causing this (one) and whether there is anything we can do about it (two).

rag451
06-11-2011, 12:07 PM
His life is pretty close to carbon-neutral and he already lives under the costs he thinks will be needed to make the changes necessary. The pieces you read about his "non-green" lifestyle are ridiculous slander built to prey on the ignorance of the reader and make them associate this supposed hypocrisy with the scientific reality that we are destroying our livable climate. Then people can choose to believe what they want without ever investigating the situation.

You are talking about George W. Bush, right? ;)

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 12:11 PM
No, I am not. Although Bush in 2k did promise to do something about greenhouse emissions(just like his pappy)and then decide it wasn't an issue after he "beat" Gore.

jmarkross
06-11-2011, 12:16 PM
He doesn't do much investigating. He just reports the findings of actual scientists and gets ridiculed for it.

Gore is a licentious, money-grubbing FRAUD of epic scale who got pissed when he lost the 2000 election and has NEVER--I repeat--NEVER worked a day in his life. He was a little rich kid--spoiled at birth--and as dumb as a brick. Maybe more massages--late at night from whores--will make him brighter...

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 12:22 PM
If that were all true my statement would still be true. And thats why you're the best. Do you read Memebase, Jmark?

Because every time I read your posts, I see this kind of style. http://memebase.com/category/joseph-ducreux/

rag451
06-11-2011, 12:39 PM
No, I am not. Although Bush in 2k did promise to do something about greenhouse emissions(just like his pappy)and then decide it wasn't an issue after he "beat" Gore.

I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home (http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp).

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

jmarkross
06-11-2011, 12:47 PM
I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home (http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp).

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

Regarding Kyoto...how did it fare when the US Senate voted on it? Did the Republican-Democrat debate cause an uproar--did the democrats stand resolutely for it's passage? What was the final left-right count there?

HewenttoJared
06-11-2011, 01:57 PM
I think President Bush had larger problems than cow-towing to political pressure to sign the Kyoto Protocol. I am amused, however, that between Bush and Gore, President Bush had the more eco-friendly home (http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp).

All politicians, regardless of their party, make 'promises' they can in no way keep because of the circumstances they face after taking the oath of office. The mark of a good public servant, however, is in part defined by the way in which they live their life. Hands down, Mr. Bush is a better steward of the earth, family man, and public servant than Mr. Gore, regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Presidential Election.

No, he really isn't. Neither are his policies.

bandnerd
06-12-2011, 09:38 AM
Gore is a licentious, money-grubbing FRAUD of epic scale who got pissed when he lost the 2000 election and has NEVER--I repeat--NEVER worked a day in his life. He was a little rich kid--spoiled at birth--and as dumb as a brick. Maybe more massages--late at night from whores--will make him brighter...

Manbearpig.

jn1780
06-12-2011, 12:30 PM
The sun isn't big enough to go super-nova. Right now the sun is going through its 11 year cycle which peaks out around May 2013. There are some scientist who think we could see above average solar storms during this period. A really bad solar storm can screw up our power grid and electronics.

There was a really big solar storm in 1859 that caused telegraph lines to spark. Imagine if that storm hit in the modern era. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

Midtowner
06-12-2011, 06:49 PM
This is a 2-page thread.

That's how I know the world is coming to an end.

CuatrodeMayo
06-12-2011, 08:02 PM
No joke. And not surprisingly it has already been sucked into the black hole of political debate like many unfortunate threads on this site...

jn1780
06-12-2011, 08:48 PM
No joke. And not surprisingly it has already been sucked into the black hole of political debate like many unfortunate threads on this site...

Makes sense. Super Novas collapse into black holes. LOL

ljbab728
06-12-2011, 09:40 PM
It's global warming. Now we're affecting the sun.

OKCisOK4me
06-14-2011, 08:55 PM
http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/us/100061/coke.bp%3B_ylt=A0WTc41rHfhN4UAAcg4p89w4%3B_ylu=X3o DMTFyaWs1YmFhBGNwb3MDMQRjc2VjA21vYmlsZS10ZARpbnRsA 3VzBHBrZwNpZC0xMDAwNjEEcG9zAzEEc2xrA2ltYWdl?ref_w= frontdoors&view=today&.tsrc=yahoo&.intl=US&.lang=en

Everything will be just fine...

MikeOKC
06-14-2011, 10:02 PM
http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/us/100061/coke.bp%3B_ylt=A0WTc41rHfhN4UAAcg4p89w4%3B_ylu=X3o DMTFyaWs1YmFhBGNwb3MDMQRjc2VjA21vYmlsZS10ZARpbnRsA 3VzBHBrZwNpZC0xMDAwNjEEcG9zAzEEc2xrA2ltYWdl?ref_w= frontdoors&view=today&.tsrc=yahoo&.intl=US&.lang=en

Everything will be just fine...

Let's hope this is what's happening. I've debated posting my thoughts about this for obvious reasons once you read my post.

When I know we're in the midst of severe solar flare-ups (as we are now), under the solar equivalent of a Severe thunderstorm Warning, I get a little nervous. A "Tornado warning" could be right behind it. I'll be honest, not too many things can get me to thinking "doomsday-like" things more than the Sun. It's not a Supernova I'm concerned about, it's the solar storms. Just sticking with the science - no "pseudoscience" here - the thought of another 1859 solar eruption is never far from my mind. It's something that the world has failed to prepare for as we have moved into this brave new world of technology-driven lives. The simple fact is that if we had a Carrington event (1859 solar storm) today (and you only get about a 24-hour notice) -- it would destroy the world as we know it for many, many years to come. Failure to prepare for an event like this is a failure of not those who use and appreciate technology, it's a failure of those who have made key decisions in several of the world's developed nations to forge ahead with a technology-driven planet - without preparing for a solar doomsday. It's called gambling.


If you're up to reading the truth about how big of a gamble it really is - here you go:
What If the Biggest Solar Storm on Record Happened Today? (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110302-solar-flares-sun-storms-earth-danger-carrington-event-science/) (National Geographic)

Ignoring it and simply hoping that another Carrington is hundreds of years away is folly.

Sleep well. This isn't science fiction.

Snowman
06-15-2011, 05:53 PM
Just a thought...someone whose opinion I respect who is well-acquainted with the Solar System....says he sees a problem with the Sun...

Tell them to stop looking at the sun, the damage to their eyes is almost certainly more dangerous than whatever they perceive they are seeing.

jmarkross
06-15-2011, 06:03 PM
Tell them to stop looking at the sun, the damage to their eyes is almost certainly more dangerous than whatever they perceive they are seeing.

So true--just look what happened in "The Day of the Triffids"...

jmarkross
06-15-2011, 06:51 PM
News on the sun...interesting...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/ice_age/

jn1780
06-15-2011, 09:02 PM
Well, obviously the sun going supernova or massive solar storms conflict with the ice age theory. They can't all happen.

Thunder
06-15-2011, 09:05 PM
We will go into another Ice Age possibility within our lifetime, but we won't know how much of it will be.

Phoenix59
06-15-2011, 09:17 PM
The sun will never go supernova, according to current understanding of how stars work. It doesn't have enough mass. At minimum a star needs to exceed what is known as Chandrasekhar's Limit (1.38 solar masses) in order to become a supernova. More information here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova).

ljbab728
06-15-2011, 10:31 PM
The sun will never go supernova, according to current understanding of how stars work. It doesn't have enough mass. At minimum a star needs to exceed what is known as Chandrasekhar's Limit (1.38 solar masses) in order to become a supernova. More information here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova).

And there you go ruining a perfectly good thread with facts. LOL

MikeOKC
06-15-2011, 10:49 PM
And there you go ruining a perfectly good thread with facts. LOL

Actually, the last few posts have been about the concern that is absolutely real - not supernova of the Sun, but solar storms like 1859. See my post above. (http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=26049&p=438747#post438747) It's real science.

Jesseda
06-16-2011, 08:47 AM
We are living in a cosmic supernova world, that is so "Stellar" ..

UnFrSaKn
06-16-2011, 05:52 PM
Read the title of this thread and expected Thunder to be the author.

Maybe this will happen instead. (http://bit.ly/b1ZplO)