how's that ol' song go ...

you don't cut on superman's cape
you don't spit into the wind
you don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and
you don't mess around with MEG

Holstein 41
Salyer 600
Van Manen 70

4 of 25 percincts reporting

(hope that's not a typo of some kind)

Meg is killing Van organ man...Very nice

I know this is a stupid question but don't you have to live in the ward in which you run for office?

If so, where does Cliff Hearron live? I couldn't find anything in Ward 8 under his name. Perhaps he rents?

I know this is a stupid question but don't you have to live in the ward in which you run for office?

If so, where does Cliff Hearron live? I couldn't find anything in Ward 8 under his name. Perhaps he rents?

No clue where he lives, but there are a few other ways to stay off the radar other than renting.

Just a word of caution about Meg's vote ... we don't know which precincts are reporting. She'll do very well north of the river (perhaps excepting Gatewood where VanManen lives) but south of the river, in Capitol Hill, may be a different story ... glad she got the endorsements of the Latino newspapers, though ... still waiting for more returns ...

Report at 8:02 pm

Ward 2: 28 of 39 precincts
John Milner 96 2.55%
Janis Powers 602 16.01%
Ed Shadid 1,300 34.57%
Jeffrey Stark 105 2.79%
Charles Swinton 1,618 43.02%
Sam Tichenor 40 1.06%

Ward 5: 4 of 29 precincts
David Greenwell 213 55.18%
Brian Walters 173 44.82%

Ward 6: 16 of 25 precincts
Jessica Holstein 115 6.84%
Meg Salyer (i) 1,177 69.98%
Adrian Van Manen 390 23.19%

Ward 8: 23 of 41 precincts
Cliff Hearron 853 25.94%
Patrick Ryan (i) 2,435 74.06%

I dunno Doug. maybe I'll end up eating Crow, but if I were callin' races tonight, I'd go ahead and call it for Done! for Salyer and Ryan, and a run-off for Shadid and Swinton.
Not enough precincts in for me to wanna try and call it Done for either Greenwall or Walters.

Salyer and Ryan have won easily.

Based on outstanding precincts, Swinton should win relatively handily. (EDIT: Should clarify, he will handily come in first...may not avoid runoff)

Walters will be neck and neck, but if Greenwell pulls away soon by 20 points in the next five reporting, he will have it.

It warms my heart to see the Windsor Hills boys going down in flames. If Greenwell can take out Walters, I'll consider it a great night.

I dunno Doug. maybe I'll end up eating Crow, but if I were callin' races tonight, I'd go ahead and call it for Done! for Salyer and Ryan, and a run-off for Shadid and Swinton.
Not enough precincts in for me to wanna try and call it Done for either Greenwall or Walters.
Well, I'm with you in spirit. But I never ever win bets ... just being cautious, here.

I'm confuzzled why the Ward 5 results at newsok are not updating. Surely they've cleared more than 4 of the precincts by now

You'd think. Just checked again at 8:22 and no status change for any of the races. What a paltry number of voters went to the polls.

I canvassed for Salyer this weekend, and she is far and away the best candidate in her ward. She is such a genuine and brilliant person; I hope the results hold.

I didn't get the calculator out, but I think as the results stand now, you'd have to have higher than average turnout in the remaining precincts, and all of it go to VanManen for him to win.

Ward 5 just updated. Still neck and neck, even closer actually

774 to 756 greenwall over walters; 14 precincts of 29 reporting


added at 8:30ish going out on a limb, calling it Walters by a nose and heading off to find some dinner since the other races seem locked fairly tight
(won't cry if I'm wrong, but in neck to neck, it's hard not to go with the incumbent )

VanManen would have done just about as well with some racy MySpace party pix and a Lost Ogle endorsement.

Ward 5 just updated. Still neck and neck, even closer actually

774 to 756 greenwall over walters; 14 precincts of 29 reporting

18 votes. That is pretty darn close.

Report at 8:32 pm

Ward 2: 39 of 39 precincts
John Milner 104 2.47%
Janis Powers 681 16.16%
Ed Shadid 1,461 34.66% Runoff
Jeffrey Stark 118 2.8%
Charles Swinton 1,803 42.78% Runoff
Sam Tichenor 48 1.14%

Ward 5: 14 of 29 precincts
David Greenwell 774 50.59%
Brian Walters 756 49.41%

Ward 6: 25 of 25 precincts
Jessica Holstein 208 9.21%
Meg Salyer (i) 1,440 63.75% WINNER!
Adrian Van Manen 611 27.05%

Ward 8: 37 of 41 precincts
Cliff Hearron 1,559 25.54%
Patrick Ryan (i) 4,545 74.46% HAS TO BE THE WINNER!

There was some teabagger money well spent.

So it's a Shadid/Swinton runoff in Ward 2, then. Things should get interesting very quickly.

And great squandering of any remaining political capital by the police & fire unions.

Where the heck do they go now?

VanManen would have done just about as well with some racy MySpace party pix and a Lost Ogle endorsement.

I spit my drink out on that one. Thanks for the laugh.

I'm stating to feel warm all over ... waiting for the Ward 5 cream, though ...

I think people like MAPS and rationality.

I think people like MAPS and rationality.Well said.

Update at 8:47 pm

Ward 8, 41 of 41 precincts:
Cliff Hearron 1,794 27.35%
Patrick Ryan (i) 4,766 72.65% WINNER!

No other changes. Ward 5 is really slow.

Pete, we keep doing what were doing!

It's funny when all this started... Most people had to be thinking, "As much as we like to think we've progressed in this town, we're still vulnerable to the small-minded dragging us down".

Then tonight you realize the city as a whole HAS really progressed in lots of different ways. Especially in the leadership -- both political and otherwise -- but it also goes to show how much the attitude of the general citizenry has changed, too.

I've felt that change and switch in attitudes every time I've come to visit and I'm glad to see it underscored in tonight's elections.

I'm stating to feel warm all over ... waiting for the Ward 5 cream, though ...

Me, too. I wonder if Marshall, Wambo and Barnold will be making concession speeches for Van Halen and Herring.

Pete, we keep doing what were doing and the pompous A**** like your self will have to get over yourselves!

Nice Mike!

You guys are doing a great job of getting people on your side.

And great squandering of any remaining political capital by the police & fire unions.

Where the heck do they go now?

I'd like to see Marshall's payraise go to the vote of the people.

Pete, we keep doing what were doing and the pompous A**** like your self will have to get over yourselves!

Nice Mike!
You guys are doing a great job of getting people on your side.
Glad you replied, Pete, before Mike edited his post. Tells a lot more that way. No change shown in Ward 5 as of 9:04 pm.

...and unions wonder why the public at large is getting sick of them.

Nice oversimplification, but that's pretty much what you do.

BTW, I really didn't mean any disrespect to police & fire and I apologize if I came across that way.

It just seems the leadership in those unions are not doing the rank and file any favors.

Wow, now shows all precincts reporting and Greenwell beating Walters by a clear margin.

Walters goes down!

Great results! The tea partiers got destroyed and Brian Walters is gone. Happy day!

Ward 5 Final Update: 29 of 29 precincts:

David Greenwell 2,872 54.22% ... WINNER!
Brian Walters 2,425 45.78%

Hoo-ah! It's been a mighty fine day in River City. Christmas came early this year.

Here's the final tally, all in one place:

FINAL TALLY

Ward 2: 39 of 39 precincts
John Milner 104 2.47%
Janis Powers 681 16.16%
Ed Shadid 1,461 34.66% ... RUNOFF
Jeffrey Stark 118 2.8%
Charles Swinton 1,803 42.78% ... RUNOFF
Sam Tichenor 48 1.14%

Ward 5: 29 of 29 precincts
David Greenwell 2,872 54.22% ... WINNER!
Brian Walters 2,425 45.78%

Ward 6: 25 of 25 precincts
Jessica Holstein 208 9.21%
Meg Salyer (i) 1,440 63.75% ... WINNER!
Adrian Van Manen 611 27.05%

Ward 8: 41 of 41 precincts
Cliff Hearron 1,794 27.35%
Patrick Ryan (i) 4,766 72.65% ... WINNER!

We're almost 15 minutes into the Fox 25 9:00 newscast. No mention of the elections as of yet.

It just seems the leadership in those unions are not doing the rank and file any favors.

That's my take. Some poor (and expensive) decisions have been made in the past two elections by leadership. I would be questioning the wisdom of the leaders.

Greenwell won! Brian Walters is going back to civilian life!!!!!

David Greenwell 2,872 54.22%
Brian Walters 2,425 45.78%

All precincts reporting

Credit the voters at the grass roots level to be able to see through the rhetoric. Now, if the city were to force the fire union's wage argument and take it to the people for a resounding defeat, well, that would be icing on the cake.

Great night all the way around!!!

In the Shadid-Swinton runoff to come, what's the big difference? I know I've been getting a huge number of direct mail pieces from Swinton. Everything I've read seems good. Is there something about Swinton I should know? Anything special about Shadid?

I agree with a lot of what the FOP and IAFF are saying.

I also have had enough face-to-face time with Chamber people to know many of them profoundly believe the city exists to serve the Chamber, and not vice versa. I was opposed to the Ford Center expansion, as you all know. I supported MAPS 3, but I remain suspicious of the way it was structured.

But the choice I was given in this election was between a kind of safe, bland establishment incumbent and a religious tea party fruitbat who ran on a platform of – well, what, exactly? 'Don't tread on me?' That the Tower of Babel was the first MAPS project? That the incumbent doesn't state a church affiliation in her campaign literature?

What a &#$@%*$ pathetic choice!

As a reform-minded citizen, I feel that I really had no choice at all in this election.

I saw Shadid speak when Ralph Nader was in town. I was very impressed. He is intelligent and his heart is definitely in the right place. I definitely would like to know more about what he plans to do at the municipal level as compared to Swinton, but Shadid seems to be a solid character.

Great night all the way around!!!

In the Shadid-Swinton runoff to come, what's the big difference? I know I've been getting a huge number of direct mail pieces from Swinton. Everything I've read seems good. Is there something about Swinton I should know? Anything special about Shadid?
Aside from what little I read in the Gazette & Oklahoman, I've not paid serious attention to Ward 2. I would not be surprised if there aren't some interviews by Gwin Faulconer-Lipprert Show at KTOK, though.

Great night all the way around!!!

In the Shadid-Swinton runoff to come, what's the big difference? I know I've been getting a huge number of direct mail pieces from Swinton. Everything I've read seems good. Is there something about Swinton I should know? Anything special about Shadid?

Charlie Swinton is a man of character, who as a banker, has seen this city go through the ups and downs of the boom and bust of the past few decades. He stuck around OKC because he believes in progress and sound fiscal government. He wants to see MAPS 3 to completion and is a ardent supporter of public safety. He served the 911 election in December 2005 as treasurer, and that campaign generated an overwhelming (near) 80 percent approval rate in the MSA.

I have one good, knowledgeable Ward 2 friend who supports Swinton, and a whole bunch of good, knowledgeable Ward 2 friends who support Shadid. If I lived in Ward 2, Shadid would probably have my vote.

As I said, I have little knowledge about either Ward 2 runoff person ... but ... I've read some good things about both of them. Doubtless, we'll be hearing more in the near future.

When will the runn-off be?

Greenwell seems like really good and unexpected news for Ward 5.

I just couldn't be happier to have David Greenwell representing South OKC. I've had the pleasure of speaking to him at length about the future of our ward and our city and have no doubt he's the right man for the job.

The Brian Walters mistake has been corrected and our ward is finally going to be well represented again.

I just couldn't be happier to have David Greenwell representing South OKC. I've had the pleasure of speaking to him at length about the future of our ward and our city and have no doubt he's the right man for the job.

The Brian Walters mistake has been corrected and our ward is finally going to be well represented again.

That's what I heard from everyone I know who lives in his ward. It sounds like he's a good, solid person....no fireworks, but reliable and consistent.

I got a Janis Powers brochure in the mail that seemed to indicate she was endorsed by Sam Bowman. If that's true, it didn't help her a bit. I no longer have it or I would double check. My wife and I both thought, from that piece, that Bowman had endorsed her.

I got a Janis Powers brochure in the mail that seemed to indicate she was endorsed by Sam Bowman. If that's true, it didn't help her a bit. I no longer have it or I would double check. My wife and I both thought, from that piece, that Bowman had endorsed her.

From everything I read about her, I thought she was a reasonable choice. But, she didn't seem to go out of her way to get her views out there. Maybe there were financial reasons, as it appears she didn't generate much in the way of contributions. She's not in my ward, but I would have liked to know more about her.

When will the runn-off be?
April 5.

Maybe the Union folks should reconsider their leadership now? I mean...gosh... your leaders have burned bridge after bridge, and you're losing ground with the voters, not winning. And look at the weirdos they have you endorsing.

I just couldn't be happier to have David Greenwell representing South OKC. I've had the pleasure of speaking to him at length about the future of our ward and our city and have no doubt he's the right man for the job.

The Brian Walters mistake has been corrected and our ward is finally going to be well represented again.

May I add a hearty second to your assessment! We know David Greenwell; he will be an excellent representative of Ward 5----FINALLY!!! :kicking:

Greenwell is a good second choice to Walters, but if Shadid doesn't get elected........congratulations, the Mayor and CM will have a rubber stamp to do whatever he wants. Our bridges were burnt when Schwartz left and we've been treading water ever since with a single vote on the shoe to be a watchdog for PS. But we plan on staying around for a long time, whether you like us not. And ever so vocal as well, to say "we told you so, Again". As I said earlier; we won before the first ballot was ever cast.

Congratulations to the winners.

I am so happy that we continue to avoid drama like this (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20110301_11_0_Counci93935).