In just four short years OKC will be changed forever. List of projects completed:

Devon Tower/adjacent structures
Myriad Gardens makeover
Ford Center makeover
American Indian Museum
Oklahoma River structures/enhancements
The new I-40

What else?

I thought they were supposed to be workin on the Ford Center grand entrance right now!

The grand entrance won't be completed until spring of 2011. Work is planned to start in September.
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In just four short years OKC will be changed forever. List of projects completed:

Devon Tower/adjacent structures
Myriad Gardens makeover
Ford Center makeover
American Indian Museum
Oklahoma River structures/enhancements
The new I-40

What else?

Sandridge Plaza.

I was about to say...

Every single historic building will have been demolished or altered by then. We'll have twice as many corporate plazas and surface parking lots. We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. We'll have Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn to go with the Residence Inn and Bricktown will be renamed the Green Roof District, akin to the Blue Dome District in Tulsa, but not urban. OKC's planning establishment will no longer just be the laughing stock of downtown, but it will be a joke all across the country. Once SandRidge goes bankrupt the weeds in SandRidge Plaza will be so high that they are actually taller than the Pietro Belluschi tower itself..it will be SandRidge's only contribution to downtown density and the skyline, in the end. We will be breaking ground on a core to shore convention center adjacent to the park, much to the chagrin of developers who would have liked to put development on that land instead, and we will still have not broken ground on a downtown streetcar system because, as a city that is not serious about planning or transit, it has been moved to the very back of the list. We will be working on extending the outer loop all the way around the city and suburban home starts will outnumber downtown homes starts by a margin of 50 to 1. REALLY though, the only new development will be that of a $400 million county jail which will have just as many problems as the old, revealing the simple truth that the county govt (which needs to be eradicated) is the problem, not a facility. Will Rogers World Airport will be loosing several flights a year due to the lower demand for air travel and higher demand for rail travel..which will truly suck for OKC because a high speed rail corridor will never come to Oklahoma despite being recommended by the Feds and due to WRWA's non-hub status, it will hemorrhage flights because the argument that people need SOME way to get to OKC won't hold up in airline negotiations. With Interstate highway or Heartland Flyer by way of Dallas being one of the only ways to get to OKC, commerce will dry up and all of the progress economically made by the MAPS legacy will be reversed and OKC will truly become the next Detroit..or Dodge City is a closer analogy I think, because Detroit is a real city. And one last thing: We will continue electing the most backward and conservative politicians in the nation, so we will at least always be known for that and tornadoes. We will start by electing a whopper of an ignoramus in this year's Congressional race for District 5..

That's where I think OKC will be in 2014 if you ask me, today.

^^ wow!

buried under a mile of volcanic ash after the 2012 explosion of yellowstone

I was about to say...

Every single historic building will have been demolished or altered by then. We'll have twice as many corporate plazas and surface parking lots. We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. We'll have Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn to go with the Residence Inn and Bricktown will be renamed the Green Roof District, akin to the Blue Dome District in Tulsa, but not urban. OKC's planning establishment will no longer just be the laughing stock of downtown, but it will be a joke all across the country. Once SandRidge goes bankrupt the weeds in SandRidge Plaza will be so high that they are actually taller than the Pietro Belluschi tower itself..it will be SandRidge's only contribution to downtown density and the skyline, in the end. We will be breaking ground on a core to shore convention center adjacent to the park, much to the chagrin of developers who would have liked to put development on that land instead, and we will still have not broken ground on a downtown streetcar system because, as a city that is not serious about planning or transit, it has been moved to the very back of the list. We will be working on extending the outer loop all the way around the city and suburban home starts will outnumber downtown homes starts by a margin of 50 to 1. REALLY though, the only new development will be that of a $400 million county jail which will have just as many problems as the old, revealing the simple truth that the county govt (which needs to be eradicated) is the problem, not a facility. Will Rogers World Airport will be loosing several flights a year due to the lower demand for air travel and higher demand for rail travel..which will truly suck for OKC because a high speed rail corridor will never come to Oklahoma despite being recommended by the Feds and due to WRWA's non-hub status, it will hemorrhage flights because the argument that people need SOME way to get to OKC won't hold up in airline negotiations. With Interstate highway or Heartland Flyer by way of Dallas being one of the only ways to get to OKC, commerce will dry up and all of the progress economically made by the MAPS legacy will be reversed and OKC will truly become the next Detroit..or Dodge City is a closer analogy I think, because Detroit is a real city. And one last thing: We will continue electing the most backward and conservative politicians in the nation, so we will at least always be known for that and tornadoes. We will start by electing a whopper of an ignoramus in this year's Congressional race for District 5..

That's where I think OKC will be in 2014 if you ask me, today.


The workload been a little heavy for the past few weeks or the significant other having a bad day? :ohno:

Can't wait for the Bricktown Walmart to open up!

So using MAPS3 to treat an urban area like it might as well be a suburban area seems to be an issue cropping up strongly. In other words don't Edmond my Downtown.

So using MAPS3 to treat an urban area like it might as well be a suburban area seems to be an issue cropping up strongly.

^^ Agreed,if they treat Core2Shore/MAPS3 projects like they did Bricktown,then it will be SUBurban like,and also most of us agree that Sandridge demo"ing" historic buildings isnt at all what OKC needs!and OKC's overall transportation is Horrific(not highways)!OKC still has along way to go,but on The flip side OKC has made MAJOR strides(just in The past 15 years)!

Coming out of a double dip recession that will be evident by the end of this year.

It don't Matter because The End Is Near...:fighting4

The new I-40 is iffy though right?

Spartan. I don't know very much, but I am convinced that you will never be known as the new Nostradamus.

I was about to say...

We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. .

oh good grief! looks like no one will be paying for parking anymore in bricktown, and as a result, few will have the courage to shop at this walmart because of that.

I was about to say...

Every single historic building will have been demolished or altered by then. We'll have twice as many corporate plazas and surface parking lots. We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. We'll have Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn to go with the Residence Inn and Bricktown will be renamed the Green Roof District, akin to the Blue Dome District in Tulsa, but not urban. OKC's planning establishment will no longer just be the laughing stock of downtown, but it will be a joke all across the country. Once SandRidge goes bankrupt the weeds in SandRidge Plaza will be so high that they are actually taller than the Pietro Belluschi tower itself..it will be SandRidge's only contribution to downtown density and the skyline, in the end. We will be breaking ground on a core to shore convention center adjacent to the park, much to the chagrin of developers who would have liked to put development on that land instead, and we will still have not broken ground on a downtown streetcar system because, as a city that is not serious about planning or transit, it has been moved to the very back of the list. We will be working on extending the outer loop all the way around the city and suburban home starts will outnumber downtown homes starts by a margin of 50 to 1. REALLY though, the only new development will be that of a $400 million county jail which will have just as many problems as the old, revealing the simple truth that the county govt (which needs to be eradicated) is the problem, not a facility. Will Rogers World Airport will be loosing several flights a year due to the lower demand for air travel and higher demand for rail travel..which will truly suck for OKC because a high speed rail corridor will never come to Oklahoma despite being recommended by the Feds and due to WRWA's non-hub status, it will hemorrhage flights because the argument that people need SOME way to get to OKC won't hold up in airline negotiations. With Interstate highway or Heartland Flyer by way of Dallas being one of the only ways to get to OKC, commerce will dry up and all of the progress economically made by the MAPS legacy will be reversed and OKC will truly become the next Detroit..or Dodge City is a closer analogy I think, because Detroit is a real city. And one last thing: We will continue electing the most backward and conservative politicians in the nation, so we will at least always be known for that and tornadoes. We will start by electing a whopper of an ignoramus in this year's Congressional race for District 5..

That's where I think OKC will be in 2014 if you ask me, today.


You're feeling a bit dark today, aren't you?

oh good grief! looks like no one will be paying for parking anymore in bricktown, and as a result, few will have the courage to shop at this walmart because of that.

???

What idiots pay to park there anyway?

I understand that it will have a handfull of different features, but I dont think it is a dramatic as you make it out. 2020 might be a more 'changed' look but I uno

You left off Project 180.

Spartan just wrote a dystopian novel on the future of Oklahoma City.

You're feeling a bit dark today, aren't you?

Hah I guess I was in one of my more spartan moods..

I was about to say...

Every single historic building will have been demolished or altered by then. We'll have twice as many corporate plazas and surface parking lots. We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. We'll have Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn to go with the Residence Inn and Bricktown will be renamed the Green Roof District, akin to the Blue Dome District in Tulsa, but not urban. OKC's planning establishment will no longer just be the laughing stock of downtown, but it will be a joke all across the country. Once SandRidge goes bankrupt the weeds in SandRidge Plaza will be so high that they are actually taller than the Pietro Belluschi tower itself..it will be SandRidge's only contribution to downtown density and the skyline, in the end. We will be breaking ground on a core to shore convention center adjacent to the park, much to the chagrin of developers who would have liked to put development on that land instead, and we will still have not broken ground on a downtown streetcar system because, as a city that is not serious about planning or transit, it has been moved to the very back of the list. We will be working on extending the outer loop all the way around the city and suburban home starts will outnumber downtown homes starts by a margin of 50 to 1. REALLY though, the only new development will be that of a $400 million county jail which will have just as many problems as the old, revealing the simple truth that the county govt (which needs to be eradicated) is the problem, not a facility. Will Rogers World Airport will be loosing several flights a year due to the lower demand for air travel and higher demand for rail travel..which will truly suck for OKC because a high speed rail corridor will never come to Oklahoma despite being recommended by the Feds and due to WRWA's non-hub status, it will hemorrhage flights because the argument that people need SOME way to get to OKC won't hold up in airline negotiations. With Interstate highway or Heartland Flyer by way of Dallas being one of the only ways to get to OKC, commerce will dry up and all of the progress economically made by the MAPS legacy will be reversed and OKC will truly become the next Detroit..or Dodge City is a closer analogy I think, because Detroit is a real city. And one last thing: We will continue electing the most backward and conservative politicians in the nation, so we will at least always be known for that and tornadoes. We will start by electing a whopper of an ignoramus in this year's Congressional race for District 5..

That's where I think OKC will be in 2014 if you ask me, today.
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???

What idiots pay to park there anyway?

i think you missed my point. with a walmart in bricktown it will certainly encourage those visiting bricktown to utilize walmart's parking since its free, thus avoiding having to pay $5.00 or however much to pay in one of the many fee lots.

in turn, it will ward off honest customers who dont wish to visit bricktown, but just shop at walmart and go home. they will be immediately discouraged to shop there by the ever constant sight of a very crowded parking lot.

walmart will have to meticulously monitor parking lot vialotors via security staff and/or cameras.

I was about to say...

Every single historic building will have been demolished or altered by then. We'll have twice as many corporate plazas and surface parking lots. We'll have a Walmart to go with the Bass Pro. We'll have Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn to go with the Residence Inn and Bricktown will be renamed the Green Roof District, akin to the Blue Dome District in Tulsa, but not urban. OKC's planning establishment will no longer just be the laughing stock of downtown, but it will be a joke all across the country. Once SandRidge goes bankrupt the weeds in SandRidge Plaza will be so high that they are actually taller than the Pietro Belluschi tower itself..it will be SandRidge's only contribution to downtown density and the skyline, in the end. We will be breaking ground on a core to shore convention center adjacent to the park, much to the chagrin of developers who would have liked to put development on that land instead, and we will still have not broken ground on a downtown streetcar system because, as a city that is not serious about planning or transit, it has been moved to the very back of the list. We will be working on extending the outer loop all the way around the city and suburban home starts will outnumber downtown homes starts by a margin of 50 to 1. REALLY though, the only new development will be that of a $400 million county jail which will have just as many problems as the old, revealing the simple truth that the county govt (which needs to be eradicated) is the problem, not a facility. Will Rogers World Airport will be loosing several flights a year due to the lower demand for air travel and higher demand for rail travel..which will truly suck for OKC because a high speed rail corridor will never come to Oklahoma despite being recommended by the Feds and due to WRWA's non-hub status, it will hemorrhage flights because the argument that people need SOME way to get to OKC won't hold up in airline negotiations. With Interstate highway or Heartland Flyer by way of Dallas being one of the only ways to get to OKC, commerce will dry up and all of the progress economically made by the MAPS legacy will be reversed and OKC will truly become the next Detroit..or Dodge City is a closer analogy I think, because Detroit is a real city. And one last thing: We will continue electing the most backward and conservative politicians in the nation, so we will at least always be known for that and tornadoes. We will start by electing a whopper of an ignoramus in this year's Congressional race for District 5..

That's where I think OKC will be in 2014 if you ask me, today.

Ever consider a name change from Spartan to Mr. Negativity, or maybe Sir Doom & Gloom.

So using MAPS3 to treat an urban area like it might as well be a suburban area seems to be an issue cropping up strongly. In other words don't Edmond my Downtown.

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i think you missed my point. with a walmart in bricktown it will certainly encourage those visiting bricktown to utilize walmart's parking since its free, thus avoiding having to pay $5.00 or however much to pay in one of the many fee lots.
in turn, it will ward off honest customers who dont wish to visit bricktown, but just shop at walmart and go home. they will be immediately discouraged to shop there by the ever constant sight of a very crowded parking lot.

walmart will have to meticulously monitor parking lot vialotors via security staff and/or cameras.

I go to Bricktown at least twice a week to eat, movie, ball game, etc:, and I have never paid for parking, you may have to walk a little, but who can't use the exercise.

I go to Bricktown at least twice a week to eat, movie, ball game, etc:, and I have never paid for parking, you may have to walk a little, but who can't use the exercise.

Actually, there are quite a few. Did you ever notice the cute little handicap stickers on some cars?

i think you missed my point. with a walmart in bricktown it will certainly encourage those visiting bricktown to utilize walmart's parking since its free, thus avoiding having to pay $5.00 or however much to pay in one of the many fee lots.

you can do that now at Bass Pro, or Toby Keith's, or the Theater, or about 2 dozen other places..



in turn, it will ward off honest customers who dont wish to visit bricktown, but just shop at walmart and go home. they will be immediately discouraged to shop there by the ever constant sight of a very crowded parking lot.


When was the last time you were at WalMart between 7am-10pm and it *wasn't* a crowded parking lot?



walmart will have to meticulously monitor parking lot vialotors via security staff and/or cameras.

LMAO

Actually, there are quite a few. Did you ever notice the cute little handicap stickers on some cars?

Stickers-No, Placards-Yes, and your point is ?

Ever consider a name change from Spartan to Mr. Negativity, or maybe Sir Doom & Gloom.

I've always thought Spartan was very appropriate, actually.


Spar·tan (spärtn)
adj.
b. Simple, frugal, or austere: a Spartan diet; a spartan lifestyle.

Stickers-No, Placards-Yes, and your point is ?

Junkie, you're nitpicking about terms. His point was that people who need handicap parking, like me, don't need the extra exercise provided by walking from free parking lots further away.

Junkie, you're nitpicking about terms. His point was that people who need handicap parking, like me, don't need the extra exercise provided by walking from free parking lots further away.

That's why there are several handicap parking spots in and around Bricktown/Downtown, if none are open, you can park at any meter and not have to pay if you properly display your handicap placard.

ummm so there's going to be a walmart in bricktown... where at? That just sounds really really trashy for bricktown.. wow


EDIT: Dont talladega my bricktown

ummm so there's going to be a walmart in bricktown... where at? That just sounds really really trashy for bricktown.. wow


EDIT: Dont talladega my bricktown

I believe (hope) that was tongue in cheek. I don't even want a Walmart supermarket, but I see absolutely no way Walmart would build in Bricktown. There's not enough population downtown to support it, the people who live downtown aren't in their target (no pun intended) market and they would be required to conform somewhat to Bricktown standards. The cost of the land for the giant parking lot they would require would be prohibitive as well.

Yeah, I cant imagine one of our premier venues with a walmart... just asking for negative looks to our city

The Skydance Bridge, Project 180 and the boulevard (which Steve and I will share a drink on upon completion in 2012 for settling a bet, haha)

Casey, you are smoking serious crack if you think a boulevard will be open in place of the highway by 2012.
That means that within two years the new highway will be completed, the current highway will be torn down, the boulevard will get added onto ODOT's eight-year project list, the boulevard designs will be finalized, and the boulevard will be built and opened.

After YellowStone explodes in 2012, Thunder will seek to be Mayor of OKC and still be serving in 2014.

if he can get rid of all the outlet stores popping up at every corner in the nw side of town he has my vote

Casey, you are smoking serious crack if you think a boulevard will be open in place of the highway by 2012.
That means that within two years the new highway will be completed, the current highway will be torn down, the boulevard will get added onto ODOT's eight-year project list, the boulevard designs will be finalized, and the boulevard will be built and opened.

I have my doubts that the interstate will even be finished by 2012 with government finances the way they are.

ummm so there's going to be a walmart in bricktown... where at? That just sounds really really trashy for bricktown.. wow


EDIT: Dont talladega my bricktown

DON'T BRICKTOWN MAHH TALLADEGA!!! (referring to Lower Bricktown)

Sorry, I had to..

Casey, you are smoking serious crack if you think a boulevard will be open in place of the highway by 2012.
That means that within two years the new highway will be completed, the current highway will be torn down, the boulevard will get added onto ODOT's eight-year project list, the boulevard designs will be finalized, and the boulevard will be built and opened.

Don't forget the Boulevard getting funded...LOL

if he can get rid of all the outlet stores popping up at every corner in the nw side of town he has my vote

Outlet stores? Where?

Did anyone see the commentary piece in the Gazette by Scott Jones doing the same kind of future forecast? Geez, and you guys thought I wrote a dystopian novel..

Outlet stores? Where?


Really...

Yes, Really

you said: "get rid of all the outlet stores popping up at every corner in the nw side of town". The only outlet stores I have heard any mention of is the outlet mall that is supposedly going out there at Council and I-40. I am curious just where all of the on "every corner" ones are at? I haven't noticed them and need specifics is all.

i like you spartan... but srsly. i have faith in OKC.

Everyone, I meant the scheduled date of 2014...like the forum thread says. Not 2012...

The boulevard would be a big disaster! Why can't the city see that the perfect place for a grand entrance with retail is already here. Broadway/Automobile Alley is perfect for retail and entering downtown!