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ljbab728
05-16-2010, 11:39 PM
I didn't operate riding mowers, as a supervisor, I instructed Union Employees how to do it. I must tell you Andy, those Union Employees were difficult to train, all they were concerned about was (what times is break, what time is lunch, when do we get paid, how much of a raise am I getting, when are we getting new equipment, etc;)

It took you 20 years to get over the fact the the Parks Dept. knew you would be a problem employee and not hiring you, how long is it going to take for you to get over MAPS3 passing so you'll stop bitching and whining ? (or to put it in layman's terms, shut up, work with what you have, be thankful you have a job and do it)

Junkie, I'm not going to tell you that your comments are out of place but keep your last response in mind the next time you call someone else out for making a response that isn't on the topic of the thread. As long as the original topic isn't totally forgotten and put aside, a few side issues should be acceptible.

BG918
05-16-2010, 11:49 PM
Once we increase our hotel-room accommodations only then will we be able to pluck a plum like the NBA All Star Weekend.

Building and expanding our ability to host conventions will be a start as MAPS 3 projects--Convention Center and Modern Street Car projects are completed. These project are important because with them comes new high rise hotels and possible expansion of existing downtown hotel rooms.

We need to become a tier II convention city, our current 12,000-plus metro hotel rooms are not going to cut it. We will need over 4,000-5,000 hotel rooms downtown and exceed 16,000 - 20,000 hotels rooms in the OKC metro area. We should reach that plateau sometime after 2015!

The new convention center should generate more hotels and hopefully a couple of hotels exceeding 600-750 rooms downtown.

How many hotel rooms are there currently in downtown OKC?

Larry OKC
05-17-2010, 02:53 AM
How many hotel rooms are there currently in downtown OKC?

From the Chamber's Convention Center Report (CCC = Cox Convention Center)


(pg 8) On average, there are approximately 2,900 total hotel rooms within one-half mile of competitive and comparable markets primary convention facilities. Including existing and planned properties, there are approximately 1,600 existing hotel rooms within one-half mile of the CCC, which ranks tenth among the competitive and comparable set of markets reviewed. The limited hotel rooms proximate to the CCC is a competitive disadvantage when looking at similar national and regional facilities.

rcjunkie
05-17-2010, 04:09 AM
Junkie, I'm not going to tell you that your comments are out of place but keep your last response in mind the next time you call someone else out for making a response that isn't on the topic of the thread. As long as the original topic isn't totally forgotten and put aside, a few side issues should be acceptible.

:backtotop

andy157
05-17-2010, 04:35 AM
Junkie, I'm not going to tell you that your comments are out of place but keep your last response in mind the next time you call someone else out for making a response that isn't on the topic of the thread. As long as the original topic isn't totally forgotten and put aside, a few side issues should be acceptible.When he doesn't take his meds he first becomes forgetful which then leads to his mindless rambling.

betts
05-17-2010, 06:22 AM
Perhaps we ought to create a separate thread where you two can take potshots at each other and the rest of us don't have to sift through them to find significant conversation.

Laramie
05-17-2010, 12:41 PM
How many hotel rooms are there currently in downtown OKC?

I would estimate that there are approximately 1,200-1,300 hotels rooms downtown not counting the Residence Inn.

Laramie
05-17-2010, 01:05 PM
How many hotel rooms are there currently in downtown OKC?


I would estimate that there are approximately 1,500 hotel rooms downtown not counting the Residence Inn.

Major hotels rooms dowtown are Sheraton (395), Renaissasce (311), Skirvin Hilton (225), Courtyard by Marriott (225), Hampton (200) and Colcord (108).

betts
05-17-2010, 02:54 PM
I thought I remembered hearing that a minimum number of hotel rooms for an All Star game is 30,000. Obviously, those don't all have to be near the venue. But regardless, I think our lack of a roofed NFL stadium might be the deal breaker these days.

OKCMallen
05-17-2010, 04:57 PM
Jeez, and who cares if we get it anyway? Let's not be greedy here. Let's have 5 consecutive years of great attendance first.

Laramie
05-17-2010, 06:36 PM
I thought I remembered hearing that a minimum number of hotel rooms for an All Star game is 30,000. Obviously, those don't all have to be near the venue. But regardless, I think our lack of a roofed NFL stadium might be the deal breaker these days.


I'm not so sure that 30,000 hotel rooms was the minimum--however, it wouldn't suprise me!

As far as having a dome; when Phoenix hosted the "All Star" weekend they used the U.S. Airways Center. I'm sure the dome in Glendale (Arizona Cardinals) would have been more attractive!

An OKC dome/retractable roof stadium would be nice for a one time event in Oklahoma--especially if we had high speed rail and utilized both Oklahoma City and Tulsa. That's what it's going to take to bring the NCAA final four to OKC--an arena with minimum seating capacity of 23,000 and plenty of quality hotel rooms.

Larry OKC
05-17-2010, 10:47 PM
From the Chamber's Convention Center Report (CCC = Cox Convention Center)

The ULI presentation said we had 2,000 rooms total downtown (the Chamber's number was just in a half mile radius of the C.C.)

ultimatesooner
05-19-2010, 10:22 AM
man, if people are complaining about the Crawl for Cancer ruining the wholesome family atmosphere downtown. let them around the NBA all star crowd

metro
05-19-2010, 10:42 AM
NBA All-Star game isn't a charity, let alone one saying they're helping kids with cancer.

ultimatesooner
05-21-2010, 12:15 PM
NBA All-Star game isn't a charity, let alone one saying they're helping kids with cancer.

I never said anything about a charity. I was saying the NBA all star crowd behavior would make the crawl for cancer crowd look very tame

okclee
05-21-2010, 12:30 PM
But at least we would have police and security on notice.

Larry OKC
05-22-2010, 03:04 AM
I thought I remembered hearing that a minimum number of hotel rooms for an All Star game is 30,000. Obviously, those don't all have to be near the venue. But regardless, I think our lack of a roofed NFL stadium might be the deal breaker these days.

Was it an article like this where the 30,000 rooms were needed?


Orlando To Host 2012 NBA All-Star Game (May 4, 2010)

There are 115,000 hotel rooms in Orange, Osceola and Seminole counties. During All-star Weekend, at least 30,000 of them could be booked, all thanks to having the brand new Amway Center.

“The way we currently go from city to city, without this building, there would not have been an All-Star game here,” Stern said.

Obviously Stern was talking about the arena...not sure why a 20,000 seat arena would need 30,000 hotel rooms... but if NFL capacity domed stadiums are the future of the All Star Weekend (100,000+) for the one just held in Dallas....If Orlando has that much more demand for hotel than seats, what kind of requirement for hotels did Dallas need?

Your valid point being, we don't have a domed stadium or anything that could remotely compete with a Dallas.

betts
05-22-2010, 04:47 AM
I remember reading it prior to the All Star game being scheduled in New Orleans. I think a lot of people go to a city for the All Star ambience, and don't even go to the game. The NBA also uses All Star weekend for their business meeting.

Larry OKC
05-22-2010, 05:19 AM
Heres the one I was thinking of (no specific numbers given)


Stern "stopped short of assuring" that the NBA would award an All-Star Game to the city, and pointed to a "lack of hotel space as reason Oklahoma City will not host the event in the foreseeable future" (DAILY OKLAHOMAN, 10/30).

mugofbeer
05-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Was it an article like this where the 30,000 rooms were needed?


Obviously Stern was talking about the arena...not sure why a 20,000 seat arena would need 30,000 hotel rooms... but if NFL capacity domed stadiums are the future of the All Star Weekend (100,000+) for the one just held in Dallas....If Orlando has that much more demand for hotel than seats, what kind of requirement for hotels did Dallas need?

Your valid point being, we don't have a domed stadium or anything that could remotely compete with a Dallas.

There is a huge number of people who come to the NBA All Star weekend who don't go to the games. Actual and wannabe entertainers come from all over to hold parties, see and be seen. There's great competition to not only hold but to just get into these parties. Even in Denver, when they held it a few years ago, there were too few suitable party locations, too few caterers, too few limo's to drive the posse's around. Police activity was very high that weekend. It's not necessarily an event OKC could handle.

Larry OKC
05-22-2010, 03:57 PM
thanks betts & mug for the reasons for higher room need than seating. Obviously, even with them going back to the "smaller" Orlando arena (comp to Dallas) OKC isn't even remotely ready at this point to host.

Course I don't think the 30,000 need isn't within a short distance of the arena and we do have a lot of hotels but scattered across the Metro...does anyone know the count for the City/Metro (not just downtown)?

ljbab728
05-22-2010, 11:26 PM
There is a huge number of people who come to the NBA All Star weekend who don't go to the games. Actual and wannabe entertainers come from all over to hold parties, see and be seen. There's great competition to not only hold but to just get into these parties. Even in Denver, when they held it a few years ago, there were too few suitable party locations, too few caterers, too few limo's to drive the posse's around. Police activity was very high that weekend. It's not necessarily an event OKC could handle.

This is just like an event such as the OU-Texas game or the Super Bowl. The majority of the people coming into town don't even attend the games.