Can we get back to the subject at hand and not speculate?! I asked a question earlier which clearly got overlooked because everyone is actually feeding Thunder responses to second grade questions...

My question earlier and it's still relevant today cause nothing has changed is...

WHY IS THERE NO NETTING ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THE BUILDING between the 12th and 13th floors?

Thanks..
Perhaps it wasn't answered because nobody knows the answer. I could speculate that it could be so that the cranes could lift the glass to be installed on that section though.

Can we get back to the subject at hand and not speculate?! I asked a question earlier which clearly got overlooked because everyone is actually feeding Thunder responses to second grade questions...

My question earlier and it's still relevant today cause nothing has changed is...

WHY IS THERE NO NETTING ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THE BUILDING between the 12th and 13th floors?

Thanks..Perhaps a tornado has already started chipping away at the building, you know, to wear it down over the next 150-200 years.

Any word on the 13th Floor--is there one so named?

Looking at the OKC Sky Line cam you can see the flash of at least two welders. One is welding the stairs in the podium building the other the black objects west of the tower.

By definition a skyscraper is at least 500 ft tall!So by definition OKC only has 1 skyscraper until The new Devon tower reaches 500 ft,then OKC will have two!on the other hand Tulsa has 4 towers over 500 ft!

There is absolutely no official defintion of how tall a skyscraper must be other than a very tall building with many floors. Check the dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skyscraper

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/skyscraper

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/skyscraper

and where dmoor did you see this definition?

I always saw a highrise was a building over 12 floors or 100 feet that rises into a skyline and a skyscraper anything over 262 feet that changes a skyline and a supertall skyscraper anything over 300 metres/986 feet.

Based on this, I would say OKC has a number of skyscrapers, much more than just Chase. [Devon, Chase, FNC, City Place, OK Tower, SandRidge, Leadership, BOK, and possibly Mid America should all be considered downtown skyscrapers. I'd call Valliance, Founders, Union, and Classen suburban skyscrapers].

Well I must have worded my post wrong here is a Wiki answers stating it has to be atleast 150meters! http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_tall_does_a_building_have_to_be_in_order_to_be _classified_as_a_skyscraper and this link say's there is no definition,but it also say's 80 meters and sticks out or pertrudes from it's surroundings! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper so I wasnt wrong for posting what I did but I was wrong for saying "by definition"!Sorry!I like the the answer where OKC has more skyscrapers!I read somewhere OKC has 16 buildings over 250 ft tall excluding The new Devon tower so it's now 17!

And then there is SSC's classification of highrises,skyscrapers and supertalls's!by this classification OKC and Tulsa have have only 1 skyscraper a piece,but I forget how tall Tulsa's CityPlex tallest tower is so Tulsa may have two by SSC's classification!So who's right/Wrong?or is there a right/wrong? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/

They moved the crawler crane further east in preparation for steel installation.

They moved the crawler crane further east in preparation for steel installation.

I noticed that today while crossing the city. The welding I saw yesterday looked like it was on two black spans across the dirt area. I remember thinking it looked like the exact width of the crawler crane.

Any word on the 13th Floor--is there one so named?

yes, there is a 13th floor

Took these Saturday evening.

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skyline1.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skyline2.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skyline3.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skyline4.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skyline5.jpg

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae288/snewlon/skylinebw.jpg

Great images and fantastic evening light that really makes the buildings stand out in contrast to the sky! Well done Metro!

No matter how many renderings, seeing real photos of that huge structure rising is still amazing.

It's really hard to comprehend how much this building with change downtown and the skyline, especially for those of us that are a bit older and haven't seen a significant change in 30 years.

forms being placed for the next floor.

I've got some pics I took yesterday afternoon. I just have to downsize them so I can load them to my photobucket via my phone..

Nice pics Metro. I took some from that side of town too...

Is there a certain wind speed that they declare to dangerous and stop elevated work? What about the tower cranes? Seem to me a day like today would be very dangerous.

Well, Oklahoma Tower and Leadership Square were early-mid 1980's buildings and they did change the skyline - but I hear ya, no changes in 25 years, until now.

I don't understand why people dismiss Renaissance Hotel, it is like 14 stories plus the glass top. That's nothing to write off, and if you notice, it does stand out in the skyline from most angles, much better than the parking lot that was there before.

Oklahoma Tower was finished in 1982 and Corporate Tower in 1980. Mid-America Tower (Devon's current home) was complete in 1981; Leadership Square in '84.

And the hotel was a nice addition but hardly changed our skyline.

i haven't gone through the whole thread to see if there's a similar picture, but here's one I snapped with my iPhone either last week or the week before...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/soonerbrat/65cb91d1.jpg

purty!

Steel!!!!!!

This is to the north of where the rotunda will be.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/c0113bcc.jpg

I thought I would put this diagram made by:Russian Sam in here to show how tall this tower will be compared to The rest of dt OKC,I actually think The decrease from 925' to 850' helps it blend in better!
http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/1010/08/2b0393a08257.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru/)

^^ Nice pic ndmoore!Every single time I go dt or drive by there is something new to look at!This tower is flying up quick!

metro, I didn't dismiss Renaissance at all. It is our tallest hotel, at 15 floors and definitely is OKC's most modern hotel. I didn't dismiss it at all. I only said most of the high rises outside of downtown are the same height, with Valliance being the exception (but it itself not too much taller than Mid America).

Because of this, I am happy those buildings are where they are, because if they were in downtown they would be considered in-fill (just like similarly heighted Renaissance Hotel is). Valliance would barely change the skyline downtown unless it was away from the CBD cluster but still downtown.

as an OKC expat, I have a request.

can somebody do a drive by of downtown again? we have seen a lot of pics close up, but I would like to see the tower's impact on the skyline now. I have viewed the KSBI cam but it is too far away. I would like to see what it looks like from I-35 and from I-40 E/W and /I-235 near and far and I-44, and WRWA if it is visible from those points. Most of the close-ups, while interesting, are really just the same shots and not any 'different'.. ..

by the way, why has KSBI had it's NW cam not pointing at downtown the last few days? I had viewed the cam the past few days and couldn't see the skyline but instead some field. Why would the EVER move that cam away from downtown? Thanks in advance.

Here is a Little different angle. view from the parking garage next to the ford center.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/5118865571_0b1dc73b71_z.jpg

oh, Thank you Bryan!

Excellent pic. I'm anxious to see the skyline pics ESPN will use for tomorrow's Thunder game. This gives us a good idea of one they could use from the Ford Center, hopefully with a LOT more activity going on in the plaza. ...

Wow! Thats amazing! Thanks Bryan! The glass looks incredible!

oh, Thank you Bryan!

Excellent pic. I'm anxious to see the skyline pics ESPN will use for tomorrow's Thunder game. This gives us a good idea of one they could use from the Ford Center, hopefully with a LOT more activity going on in the plaza. ...

http://theokcarena.com/

Personally what I'm waiting for is for the tower to top out over the Oklahoma Tower - when it does that, I think it will be visible from every angle, including North, which is where I am driving from in the mornings. Quite awhile to go before then though.

They are about to starting adding glass to the 9th floor.

They have also installed some cables for the "Cable-net curtain wall". I'll try and get pictures of this at lunch.

I believe the steel structure show below will be for the square entrance on the north side of the rotunda:

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/c0113bcc.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/devon/devon16.jpg

Cables for the cable-net curtain wall.
http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/058e44d0.jpg

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/0cad87f9.jpg

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/f876a320.jpg

'AWE'some!

Great pics!

Thanks for the pics..

Is it okay to fall in love with a building? <3

It's OK...

beautiful!

Someone mentioned something about the KSBI NW Tower Cam being pointed to the northwest and not the southeast. I texted Jake Charles and he fixed it for us. You're welcome!

http://ksbi.bimedia.net/nwokc2.htm

Is the Chase tower actually rectangular than square?

Devon will be taller, but which one is thicker? It is hard to determine when driving by.

Looking at a closeup of ndmoore's great photo, it looks like the horizontal metal fixtures running above/below each pane of glass may contain the lighting elements.

In order to light up the whole building, there would have to be a way to project light onto the windows and I bet this is how they do it. And the vertical mesh panels would help keep the light separate and delineated.

I know at Barcelona's Agbar Tower, they have an LED lighting system which allows for thousands of colors for any one pane of glass and I'm really hoping Devon is installing something similar. It allows them to create virtually any type of graphic on the building and even moving images. Imagine the tower all lit up in Thunder colors! (Or even spelling out Thunder or creating a 850' image of Kevin Durant!)

http://www.tnttri.com/OKCTalk/devonwindows.jpg

http://nait5.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/torreagbar1.jpg

Is the Chase tower actually rectangular than square?

Devon will be taller, but which one is thicker? It is hard to determine when driving by.

The east and west faces are shorter in length than the north and south faces...

Looking at a closeup of ndmoore's great photo, it looks like the horizontal metal fixtures running above/below each pane of glass may contain the lighting elements.

In order to light up the whole building, there would have to be a way to project light onto the windows and I bet this is how they do it. And the vertical mesh panels would help keep the light separate and delineated.

I know at Barcelona's Agbar Tower, they have an LED lighting system which allows for thousands of colors for any one pane of glass and I'm really hoping Devon is installing something similar. It allows them to create virtually any type of graphic on the building and even moving images. Imagine the tower all lit up in Thunder colors! (Or even spelling out Thunder or creating a 850' image of Kevin Durant!)

http://www.tnttri.com/OKCTalk/devonwindows.jpg

http://nait5.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/torreagbar1.jpg

OMG.... if it has lighting like that, I just don't what I would do with myself, I would be downtown every night just gazing at it! The tower is iconic, but with that lighting it would be over the top!

OMG.... if it has lighting like that, I just don't what I would do with myself, I would be downtown every night just gazing at it! The tower is iconic, but with that lighting it would be over the top!

If it is lighted like this...it will be as successful as the Los Angeles Triforium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triforium_%28Los_Angeles%29

If it does light like that its a good thing they are moving interstate a bit further away.

If they do have such a lighting system, I'm sure any displays would be limited... I'm sure the majority of time the tower wouldn't have moving, flashing images.

But would be really, really cool to have that capacity.

Imagine the skyline images... And I hope it would inspire other buildings downtown to upgrade their external lighting as well.

Looking at a closeup of ndmoore's great photo, it looks like the horizontal metal fixtures running above/below each pane of glass may contain the lighting elements.

In order to light up the whole building, there would have to be a way to project light onto the windows and I bet this is how they do it. And the vertical mesh panels would help keep the light separate and delineated.

I know at Barcelona's Agbar Tower, they have an LED lighting system which allows for thousands of colors for any one pane of glass and I'm really hoping Devon is installing something similar. It allows them to create virtually any type of graphic on the building and even moving images. Imagine the tower all lit up in Thunder colors! (Or even spelling out Thunder or creating a 850' image of Kevin Durant!)

http://www.tnttri.com/OKCTalk/devonwindows.jpg

http://nait5.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/torreagbar1.jpg

Pete, that was what I mentioned earlier when I first saw pictures of the glass panels going up. I immediately thought the thin white glass tube structures must have something to do with lighting. They certainly aren't structural.

Someone wanted some different angles and further away shots so I figured I'd toss this one up. Hopefully it looks allright as I'm having to post this through my iPhone.

I'd like to try and get some shots from the south, but this shot hasn't really been posted yet since the tower has only been visible for a couple weeks here.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p314/Dulahey/IMG_1200.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p314/Dulahey/IMG_1201.jpg

Yep, it's tall enuf to be noticed now from all angles, I-35, I-44, I-240...you're driving along and glance towards DT and your brain goes, "hey, something's different." My favorite views are from the Fort Smith and Amarillo junctions...maybe the view from Fort Smith junction is my favorite it makes all of DT appear taller.

Looks like the first glass panels are starting to go up on the 3rd floor of the podium building, just west of the stairwell.

It also looks like it's a less reflective material than used elsewhere:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/devon/devon9.jpg

Looks like the first glass panels are starting to go up on the 3rd floor of the podium building, just west of the stairwell.

It also looks like it's a less reflective material than used elsewhere:

Pete,

This is actually some duct work that is being done on the 4th floor right now. It does look like that from the Cam though.

I'll get some pictures during lunch to post later.

Yep, it's tall enuf to be noticed now from all angles, I-35, I-44, I-240...you're driving along and glance towards DT and your brain goes, "hey, something's different." My favorite views are from the Fort Smith and Amarillo junctions...maybe the view from Fort Smith junction is my favorite it makes all of DT appear taller.

Not quite - as mentioned from my previous thread - can't see it driving down 235 yet - til it gets higher than the Oklahoma Tower.

My favorite pic that I took on Sunday (through the windshield, I might add)...

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r170/OkStateBBall78/RGV2b24xMDI0MTAuanBn.jpg

Awesome! Really starting to look like a building now.


Even by the conservative pace of a floor every eight days, this will be the tallest structure in OKC sometime in February.

Pete,

This is actually some duct work that is being done on the 4th floor right now. It does look like that from the Cam though.

I'll get some pictures during lunch to post later.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/923d1e06.jpg

Awesome! Really starting to look like a building now.


Even by the conservative pace of a floor every eight days, this will be the tallest structure in OKC sometime in February.

Notice, also that they've already poured half the columns on the south face of my pic for the forms to go up for the 18th floor and as we speak, all of the 18th floor forms have been put in place. That's less than 8 days my friend. They're on a roll!

Notice, also that they've already poured half the columns on the south face of my pic for the forms to go up for the 18th floor and as we speak, all of the 18th floor forms have been put in place. That's less than 8 days my friend. They're on a roll!

18? Kinda hard to count them now but I only came up with 16 or 17 (yes I'm counting the 1st big floor as 2).