View Full Version : T. Boone Pickens Has His Signature in Driveway Stolen



Bunty
07-14-2009, 04:36 PM
This act by Pickens is arrogant and childish. Wasn't he supposed to request it first? Maybe Pickens figured the owner of his signature would demand an outrageous amount even for him, so he would just go in and arrange to have it stolen. It was apparently done on right of way, so city of Holdenville may get involved. Story here: http://newsok.com/t.-boone-pickens-signature-slab-removed-from-home/article/3385134 At least the home wasn't swiped for old time sakes.

drumsncode
07-14-2009, 07:00 PM
It did seem a bit odd, but then again, old men with tons of money do odd things, but it's usually more along the lines of marrying 30 year-old women! ;-)

I'm guessing if Pickens has that man's car renovated to look EXACTLY like a brand new BMW then all the fuss will go away. (Like a scene I saw in Boston Legal!) ;-)

gmwise
07-15-2009, 12:58 AM
It did seem a bit odd, but then again, old men with tons of money do odd things, but it's usually more along the lines of marrying 30 year-old women! ;-)

I'm guessing if Pickens has that man's car renovated to look EXACTLY like a brand new BMW then all the fuss will go away. (Like a scene I saw in Boston Legal!) ;-)

If Mrs Boone wasnt around then maybe a Anna Nicole would have killed off old TBoone.lol

PennyQuilts
07-15-2009, 06:48 AM
My jaw dropped when I read that story. The arrogance! The weirdness! The hamfistedness!

fuzzytoad
07-15-2009, 09:46 AM
lol, some people get outraged at the most benign things.

Caboose
07-15-2009, 10:24 AM
lol, some people get outraged at the most benign things.

Yes, property theft and vandalism are totally benign.

drumsncode
07-15-2009, 10:28 AM
Doesn't it point out that if you're rich enough or gorgeous enough (Jessica Alba), you can get away with an awful lot!? :-) Think about it, no town wants to p*ss off T. Boone Pickens, he might take his toys (money) and go play somewhere else. OSU would have a fit! Mike Gundy is probably calling all the officials telling them to let Pickens have anything he wants!

silvergrove
07-15-2009, 10:45 AM
I think the worst we'll expect to see is a small slap on the wrist on T Boone Pickens, no?

fuzzytoad
07-15-2009, 11:46 AM
Yes, property theft and vandalism are totally benign.

it's a rock.

and it was replaced.

PennyQuilts
07-15-2009, 01:16 PM
Well, he won't spend life in prison on it but my god, who steals part of someone's driveway and thinks that is okay? It is less criminal than outright antisocial.

BDP
07-15-2009, 02:29 PM
The thing that is really bizarre about is that if it was this guy's property, couldn't T Boone have asked or paid for it. No doubt he can afford it. If it was the city's property, couldn't he just have asked for it? I am sure they would have given it to him, maybe in exchange for some public appearance.

I'm in no way outraged by it. It just shows him as what he is, an arrogant loon who places his wants above others.

And as for Jessica, at least she came out and apologized while giving a little something in restitution. Boone has his people come out and basically say "well, he really wanted it, so it's okay. Thanks for caring about T Boone!"

Just bizarre.

trousers
07-15-2009, 02:55 PM
He could have at least offered a wind turbine.

gmwise
07-15-2009, 04:59 PM
I think The city there said it was part of city property. and he had asked for it. even paid for it, to be repaired.
I really dont care I think its almost on the same level as Octomom ,or jon and kate (by the way that bitch needs to be drown in acid) lol.
I read and then seen they were on Extreme Home make over. she was whiny then and a prima donna, btw not the same house they started in the J & K plus 8 show.

gmwise
07-15-2009, 05:00 PM
He could have at least offered a wind turbine.

lol
one way to emptied his "garage".

Midtowner
07-15-2009, 05:08 PM
I think The city there said it was part of city property. and he had asked for it. even paid for it, to be repaired.
I really dont care I think its almost on the same level as Octomom ,or jon and kate (by the way that bitch needs to be drown in acid) lol.
I read and then seen they were on Extreme Home make over. she was whiny then and a prima donna, btw not the same house they started in the J & K plus 8 show.

I think the city is probably mistaken in its assessment that the driveway is on city property. The city has an easement to use the front part of the property for certain purposes -- those purposes may be damn near unlimited. They can tear things up, dig ditches, lay pipe, place telephone poles, whatever. what they do not have is a present possessory interest in the land to do with it as they please -- all uses of the land have to be within the terms of the easement. Their easement certainly does not give the city the right to cut a chunk out of a private driveway and carry it away. No way, no how.

If the easement is a utility easement, that does not give them the power to cut chunks of the landowner's property off of his land and carry them away.

gmwise
07-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Oh well then I guess some dirty politics happen..lol

BB37
07-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Agree that the city's statement that the signature segment of driveway was on the utility easement and therefore not the homeowner's property is crap. Had that section of the driveway been cracked and breaking up, you can bet the city of Holdenville wouldn't have repaved it.

It's also very telling that nobody showed up to patch the stolen section of driveway until AFTER the homeowner called the police and filed his complaint.

I guess it's a good thing I don't live in Holdenville. If Pickens decided he wanted my laptop, I probably wouldn't get any help from the local constables.

gmwise
07-15-2009, 09:18 PM
Small town cops are like small town lawyers "For Sale".

Midtowner
07-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Well of course small time lawyers are for sale. All private practice attorneys are for sale.

PennyQuilts
07-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Private lawyers sell their services but we should all be able to count on the courts to be fair - small town or not. That being said, speaking as an attorney, I have been "home towned" and that is a common experience, sadly. But what that usually amounts to is simply giving the benefit of the doubt to the home grown attorneys - it rarely goes beyond that.

Midtowner
07-16-2009, 01:06 PM
It's much less common to be 'hometowned' than it used to be. I've practiced (under my limited license) in places like Lincoln, Bryan, Logan and Canadian Counties. All are fine places with fine judges and fine lawyers. I think that's a negative perception which despite not really being prevalent anymore, has unfortunately lived on. I'm not so naive as to not be on guard for it, but I'm not expecting it to happen either.

PennyQuilts
07-16-2009, 01:17 PM
Mid, I don't even count those as backwoods counties.

Been to Atoka? How about Apache? Check out Woodward and be sure you leave word where you are going to be when you to Vinita.

Midtowner
07-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Generally, folks out in those parts will hire local counsel.

PennyQuilts
07-16-2009, 02:14 PM
And woe to the outsider who comes in!

Actually, at least in state court, some of the benefits that flow to the home grown are that they understand the processes and practices of a given court, and their reputations before those judges are known.

Midtowner
07-16-2009, 02:33 PM
And they don't drive 4 hours to a scheduled hearing only to find that the judge and staff have gone fishing.

PennyQuilts
07-16-2009, 02:57 PM
See, if they were from that jurisdiction, they'd KNOW that Thursday morning was fishing day - right after the good old boys meet at the local diner and rotate who is buying.

kevinpate
07-16-2009, 06:33 PM
I've on occasion known a lawyer who was convinced of being hometowned. On occasion I've also known the opposing counsel, well enough even to recognize there is actually one helluva difference in being hometowned and in being outlawyered by a counsel who just so happened to be practicing in his or her home town.

PennyQuilts
07-16-2009, 07:04 PM
I recall walking into a small town courtroom about ten years ago, arms full of documents that I hadn't had time to get straight because I'd had to find the place and my map wasn't too clear. I barely made it on time and walked into the courtroom (made a guess as to which was the correct one) just as they were calling my case. Several of my papers fluttered to the ground but I left them there to maintain some dignity.

"Your honor," sez I.

He looked down from the chair, eyeglasses perched on the end of his nose and gazed at me for a long moment. Then he leaned back and put his arms across his lap and continued to look at me.

"Your honor, if I may..." I began.

"Are you Mrs. _______?" he interrupted.

"Yes, your honor."

"SO, Mrs. _______, you're down from the big city (OKC is BIG????) to our little neck of the woods and you think you can come in here and tell us what the law IS!! Is that it, Mrs. __________? Is that what you came down here to do?"

"Your honor... the issue in this case is whether the statute requires the localities to reimburse emergency services when they are called out on a mental health emergency or whether the agency -"

"Mrs. _____, I read your motion and I am going to deny it. If you want to waste the court's time arguing your case, I guess I have to let you but," and he leaned forward then so he could be closer, "the court will not be pleased... Do you understand me, Mrs. _______?"

Long pause on my part and, I confess, after a couple of seconds thinking about it, I cocked an eyebrow at him and gave him a grin.

"Yes, your honor and thank you for reading my motion. Is it a fair understanding on my part that further argument on my part on behalf of my client would not change your mind?"

"You sound pretty sharp, Ms. Big-City Lawyer."

"Thank you for your time, your honor."

Opposing counsel never opened his (her?) mouth. In fact, I never saw them.

We won on appeal.

That may be the only time I was hometowned. Asking a local judge to rule against his sheriff's department when their budgets weren't too fat to begin with was a losing battle.

This is a true story.

Midtowner
07-16-2009, 07:31 PM
Lemme guess... Atoka?

Luke
07-16-2009, 08:19 PM
Lemme guess... Atoka?

Side note: Atoka's high school mascot is the Wampus Cats.

PennyQuilts
07-17-2009, 04:28 AM
Lemme guess... Atoka?

I can't remember if it was Coalgate or Wewoka. I'd have to go look at the map. Either one is off in that direction.

USG '60
07-17-2009, 06:22 AM
Side note: Atoka's high school mascot is the Wampus Cats.

Luke, how many folks these days knows about Wampas Cats?:LolLolLol

Luke
07-17-2009, 09:11 AM
Luke, how many folks these days knows about Wampas Cats?:LolLolLol

I grew up in Sulphur. Being in the band, we went with the football team everywhere. That included our biennial trip to lovely Atoka. Obviously, the name of their mascot stuck with me.

:)