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Karried
11-22-2008, 07:52 AM
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Easy180
11-22-2008, 08:54 AM
I'm sure he wasn't surprised at all...God awful team we have but hopefully this will light a fire under them...One thing losing and another getting blown out in EVERY game

Hopefully this opens the door for Avery Johnson

jbrown84
11-22-2008, 10:33 AM
I feel a little bad. I've spoken with P.J. on the phone and he is extremely nice for being a high roller.

I wish him the best, but this had to be done.

venture
11-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Hopefully he didn't pay for his house and completely relocate everything here.

Urbanized
11-22-2008, 11:55 AM
He did not. He kept his house in Seattle. Nice enough guy, from what I've heard, but obviously wasn't getting it done. The NBA is a tough gig. Those guys all know what time it is. Good luck in your future endeavors, PJ.

In other news, Avery Johnson, 2006 NBA coach of the year, is sitting on his couch at home. Just a thought.

OKC4me
11-22-2008, 11:59 AM
If Avery Johnson was coach of the year, why is he sitting at home on the couch??

Urbanized
11-22-2008, 12:01 PM
Because Mark Cuban didn't think that he went far ENOUGH in the playoffs the past two seasons. In all fairness, they had the best record in the league before being knocked out in the first round in '06-'07. But Avery IS the fastest coach in the history of the NBA to achieve 50, 100, and 150 wins. He also took the Mavericks to their first-ever NBA finals, eventually losing to Shaq and D Wade. I can't fault him for that last part.

He's by far the best coach on the market right now.

Urbanized
11-22-2008, 12:06 PM
Also, it is well-known that Mark Cuban is an insane person. I personally like him, but he is not playing with a full deck.

jbrown84
11-22-2008, 12:13 PM
Yeah I'm seeing Avery Johnson's name pop up all over the place. Can we afford him?

VintageRacer
11-22-2008, 02:48 PM
I like the Avery Johnson idea. I'm sure the owner's group can afford him. What they can't afford is to continue the current direction, a change was needed. I also wish PJ the best, it's a tough job at this level. I find it ironic should OKC hire Avery after Cuban voted against the team move from Seattle to OKC. Did Avery's staff remain in Dallas or were they replaced also?

VintageRacer
11-22-2008, 03:10 PM
From NBA website today:

Taking over on an interim basis is Scott Brooks, the former scrappy point guard who's a head coach for the first time. Presti can only hope that Brooks, 42, can relate better to a young team looking for direction.

Whether Brooks can keep the gig will likely depend on what kind of progress the Thunder can make and/or who else is available. Former Dallas coach and current ESPN analyst Avery Johnson could be considered. Presti and Johnson do share San Antonio ties. Presti's front-office career began with the Spurs, but he may be reluctant to go back to the San Antonio well after plucking Carlesimo off Gregg Popovich's staff.

Reached on a hunting trip, Johnson told NBA.com that he's "not interested in the Oklahoma job right now." Johnson added that he plans to be "hunting for the rest of the year." Another name with strong local ties is Kelvin Sampson, the former coach at the University of Oklahoma who's currently an assistant with the Milwaukee Bucks.


I hope Sampson is not on OKC's radar.

jbrown84
11-22-2008, 05:35 PM
Ugh no Sampson please.

gmwise
11-22-2008, 08:06 PM
3 years and counting down....

betts
11-22-2008, 11:07 PM
The team played a LOT better tonight, even though we lost. It was a ten point game up until the last minute or so, and the Thunder were always in the game. I don't know whether it was the shock of losing their coach, or that Coach Brooks is a better motivator, but we had a really good shooting percentage and played hard. That makes me hopeful for the future.

andy157
11-23-2008, 12:41 AM
During a break in the action of the the O.U./Tex.Tech. game, Brent Mussberger (SP) was talking about how his friend P.J. Carlesimo had been fired as the head coach of the OKC Thunder. Did anyone else happen to catch his comment about the new Thunder owners? He said something to the effect that the new owners had stole the team from Seattle. Anyone else hear that?

kevinpate
11-23-2008, 06:34 AM
Heard it, dinna worry about it. Not the first talking head to get something wrong.

Wrestled it from Seattle, sure, but stole it, awww nopers.

It weren't even too much of a wrestling match. Seattle folk wrestled just long enough to cop a feel or two and then smile and ask Clay if that's his buyout wallet or is he just happy to see them. :)

jbrown84
11-23-2008, 09:27 AM
3 years and counting down....

??

VintageRacer
11-23-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm with you betts....the players were playing like a different team. They were in the game to the end. If the Thunder can continue their new style of play, this team will win games. It was obvious the players had a spring in their step, high fives, they appeared fired up, all players were contributing. I can't wait for Mason to get back on the court. I watched the Thunder on the big tv with the OU game (sound off) on the little tv, didn't hear the Thunder comments from ABC. I'm looking forward to watching the fired-up Thunder hit the court Tuesday night, hope the crowd shows up and shows them what all the OKC Fan hype was really about.

jbrown84
11-23-2008, 11:10 AM
Very good to hear. It sounds like Carlesimo was a lot of the problem.

bombermwc
11-24-2008, 07:41 AM
Can't say I'm sorry to see him go. The Seattle folks wanted him gone long before the team left. It's been a downhill slide for a while and he didn't help it any. We need some young blood in there that can fire the boys up and make a difference.

HELL NO TO SAMPSON!!!!!!

metro
11-24-2008, 08:24 AM
??

He's talking about until the team leaves (I believe OKC has a 3 year guarantee), pay him no attention and support the team.

metro
11-24-2008, 08:26 AM
I agree, if Bennett doesn't get his head out of you know where soon, I wouldn't be surprised if he does hire Sampson. Bennett if you have any of your staffers reading this forum, we DONT WANT SAMPSON. OU got rid of him for a reason.

betts
11-24-2008, 11:49 AM
I agree, if Bennett doesn't get his head out of you know where soon, I wouldn't be surprised if he does hire Sampson. Bennett if you have any of your staffers reading this forum, we DONT WANT SAMPSON. OU got rid of him for a reason.

That would be a completely boneheaded idea. Sampson would be a disaster in the NBA, IMO. He would lose the players in short order.

metro
11-24-2008, 02:14 PM
agreed betts, hence why I said that, I don't think he's NBA caliber either. But nonetheless, I revert back to my original statement. With the choices Bennett has made thus far though, it surely wouldn't surprise me. He just doesn't get it on so many issues regarding this team.

VintageRacer
11-24-2008, 03:16 PM
In all fairness to Bennett, he had an overflowing plate while in Seattle with getting an arena deal done, personnel changes, law suits, mediocre attendance, a major move and setting up shop within a short timeline, etc. Now with those issues out of the way he can spend more time on quality changes. Remember, a mascot is in the works.

metro
11-24-2008, 03:43 PM
Vintage, that's why you hire experts to do the work for you when owning this caliber of a business and don't do this the old fashioned Oklahoma way. We only get one shot at this and so far, the ball has been dropped on the business side of things. I am still very grateful we have the team though.

Laramie
11-24-2008, 06:27 PM
It's unfortunate what has happened with P. J.? I felt he was a great coach.

Looks like the players may have turned on him.

This happens in major professional sports when the coach is making less money than some of its key players--I'm not saying that is what happened; however, I can imagine that P.J. must have crossed some of the players in an attempt to motivate them and they decided to stop playing altogether.

Let's pray that this organization gets things together with the right mix. This isn't good for Oklahoma City's first impression into major league sports.

Clay & PBC worked so hard to bring this team here.

Please, please refrain from booing at the games--this is our team. We didn't boo the Hornets; therefore, let's give this team a break.

Let's give this team the morale and spiritual support they so badly need now.

Maybe we did need a change, you never know what's going on behind closed doors.

I hope that things can get worked out and this team starts winning.

They will have my support no matter what.

Laramie
11-24-2008, 06:33 PM
Sampson needs to stay in Milwaukee.

How about Byron Scott, there appears to be enough trouble in New Orleans that Byron Scott won't hesitate to leave New Orleans for Oklahoma City.

Maybe Scott could relate to these young players.

VintageRacer
11-24-2008, 08:01 PM
Haven't kept up with Byron Scott's troubles in NO, what's going on there?

Before jumping ship on our new coach, I would like to see what Scott Brooks can do with this team. He has been thrown into the lions den and he may turn out to be the next Phil Jackson.

El Gato Pollo Loco!!!
11-24-2008, 10:45 PM
Sampson needs to stay in Milwaukee.

How about Byron Scott, there appears to be enough trouble in New Orleans that Byron Scott won't hesitate to leave New Orleans for Oklahoma City.

Maybe Scott could relate to these young players.

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/23.gif

Scott is not leaving New Orleans.

Seriously....


Let's just see what Brooks can do, 'k?

betts
11-25-2008, 12:11 AM
The Wizards fired their coach too, and they've also only got one win. I don't think this makes us look bad. On the contrary, NOT doing anything when the wheels were appearing to come off the bus probably would have made us look worse.

I though PJ seemed like an OK guy, but I didn't have to play for him. Rumor has it he wasn't the easiest guy to play for.

I'm pleased Brooks is being given a chance. Bob Stoops and Jeff Capel were surprise hires, and neither was a "name", but they've done alright. ;)

OKCMallen
11-25-2008, 11:26 AM
They should get Joe C. involved in the search. They guy conducts better coaching searches than anyone else on the planet. :) (Spoken as a true OU fan...)

Urbanized
11-25-2008, 11:33 AM
More like Chuck Neinas. :) (Spoken as a true OU fan...)

jbrown84
11-25-2008, 03:44 PM
The Wizards fired their coach too, and they've also only got one win. I don't think this makes us look bad. On the contrary, NOT doing anything when the wheels were appearing to come off the bus probably would have made us look worse.

I agree. Again, in our situation, the media and some of the regular fans, especially in Seattle, are going to use anything they can to make us look bad.

Even some of our own just can't be satisfied no matter what Bennett does...