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mturner
09-05-2008, 04:16 PM
development
|category1=Recreation
|category2=Transportation
|category3=Current
|category4=
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|project=SkyDance Bridge
|address=aligned with Harvey axis, over new I-40 Crosstown Expressway (http://goo.gl/maps/pmuwb)
|status=completed
|owner=City of OKC
|cost=$5,800,000 ($3.5 million from ODOT, rest from G.O. bond authorizations)
|architect=S-X-L (collaboration that includes Laurent Massenat, Hans Butzer, Stan Carroll, David Wanzer, among others)
|start=Fall 2011
|finish=Spring 2012
|contractor=
|height=192 ft
|sq. feet=
|acreage=
|other=380 ft span; City website here (http://www.okc.gov/skybridge/index.html)
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|image=http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/skydancewiki1.jpg
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loulang2000
09-05-2008, 04:21 PM
Home team? I guess. Although this case may be more like cronyism, same as always. Butzer's been tight with the city, after all he was one of the Core to Shore "consultants". Then again, the good ol' boy system did bring us the Sonics- oops "Thunder".

cedbled
09-05-2008, 04:25 PM
pics?

LordGerald
09-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Hey Great news- The City unveiled their choice for the New I -40 Pedestrian Bridge- Of the 4-5 finalists, they chose a design by Hans Butzer, inspired by Oklahoma's own scissor tail. I'm glad they chose someone from the home team!

It is very cool. I'll upload pix on Monday. I left the camera at work.

jbrown84
09-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Iconic?

slglenn
09-05-2008, 06:20 PM
does anyone have pictures they can post? I would love to see it!!
Thanks

Thunder
09-05-2008, 07:02 PM
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/raleigh/440-bikebridge-kerr.JPG

metro
09-05-2008, 07:09 PM
thanks for posting this, I meant to post a heads up yesterday. I have a rendering at home, I'll try to find it and scan it in if no one posts renderings

jsibelius
09-05-2008, 07:18 PM
Is this a design-build project? If so, it's probably cheaper to go with someone local. If it's just the design, cronyism may come into play, but it's entirely possible, even likely, that Butzer simply knows the area better and knew how to make the design so that it would appeal to those who were going to make the award. Outside designers would have had to do extensive research to pull off the same - don't know that they'd go quite that far.

OKCisOK4me
09-05-2008, 07:23 PM
http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/raleigh/440-bikebridge-kerr.JPG

Yeah, that's not iconic...

tmg77
09-05-2008, 07:23 PM
Butzer Design Partnership (http://www.butzerdesignpartnership.com)

gsan
09-05-2008, 07:55 PM
:bow:
Wow!!! That is beautiful! All these new developments are so exciting!

jbrown84
09-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Now THAT'S iconic.

Ignore the picture Thunder posted. I'm not sure what that was. An example of what a pedestrian bridge is??

http://www.butzerdesignpartnership.com/images/skydance/skydance_12.jpg
http://www.butzerdesignpartnership.com/images/images/images/all_12.jpg

jbrown84
09-05-2008, 08:21 PM
If it's just the design, cronyism may come into play, but it's entirely possible, even likely, that Butzer simply knows the area better and knew how to make the design so that it would appeal to those who were going to make the award. Outside designers would have had to do extensive research to pull off the same - don't know that they'd go quite that far.

I saw one of the models from one of the outside firms. This is way better.

Watson410
09-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Where exactly is that suppose to be located on the new I-40?

betts
09-05-2008, 08:55 PM
That has the same sort of feel as the boat houses, to me, which means it will feel like there is a theme to the river architecture. Hopefully we will have reason to have a pedestrian bridge over I-40.

Some Guy
09-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Having seen all of the final presentations and models, I believe the winning team simply out-designed everybody else -- including one worldwide architectural firm who does nothing but bridges and another worldwide firm who has designed many of the new structures you've seen as part of the Beijing Olympics. The local guys went toe-to-toe in an international competition and won -- I think anyone who was there would agree that "cronyism" had nothing to do with it. Inspired design and practical building methods are what won. Who knew we had this kind of talent right here in Oklahoma City?

tmg77
09-05-2008, 09:01 PM
it is located just east of union station @ harvey

Dar405301
09-05-2008, 10:48 PM
now that's cool!

edcrunk
09-05-2008, 11:10 PM
that lives up to everything i was hoping for!

see guys... everyone who was saying that we just look for stuff to complain about is dead wrong. give us a crappy logo, we'll let you know it sucks. give us an iconic bridge, we applaud!

now i'm just waiting for tom elmore to pop up and start talking about a naked emperor and his new clothes.

bdhumphreys
09-06-2008, 01:59 AM
Hey guys, I have added a post on the bridge here:

imagiNATIVEamerica The NEW I-40 Pedestrian Bridge (http://imaginativeamerica.com/2008/09/i-40-pedestrian-bridge/)

Some Guy - I quoted you in the post. I think your comment about the competition provides a lot of insight into the quality of the work and how it stacked up against the other firms. Hope that is cool, if not, email me and let me know.

Thanks!

betts
09-06-2008, 05:38 AM
I forgot to add: Wow, that is a beautiful bridge! Wish we didn't have to wait to see this constructed.

sroberts24
09-06-2008, 07:19 AM
anybody know the height?

CCOKC
09-06-2008, 08:39 AM
Wow, this is exciting on a couple of levels. One it is an iconic symbol for our city. Anybody from out of town passing through will certainly remember this and I think in a positive way. Second, it was designed by someone locally (with international competition it seems) using local themes. Just another reminder of how much our city has changed in the last 10 years.

BDP
09-06-2008, 09:02 AM
That's pretty cool. I hope we can get some more, too, as these will be the only thing some people see when driving through Oklahoma City on the new I-40.

I also liked the inclusion of the devon tower in the renderings. Gave it some perspective and you might be able to see it when driving through.

Is this included in the regular I-40 funding, or is the city paying for it and, if so, do we have the money in place for it?

dkbrewer
09-06-2008, 09:09 AM
I think this is city funded-3 million? City also has an outside engineering firm who will be administrating the project. Butzer of course is heading up the design team, including several newbie interns, and Stan Carrol, whose been around. Carrol's most interesting stuff has actually been since he focused on his creative metal work. His influence on the design is apparent if you're familiar with his work.

Easy180
09-06-2008, 09:31 AM
That is cool

Would be even cooler if they painted buffaloes on the side of it :bright_id

angel27
09-06-2008, 09:34 AM
Is that our ferris wheel in the lower rh corner rendering?

dkbrewer
09-06-2008, 12:01 PM
That's pretty cool. I hope we can get some more, too, as these will be the only thing some people see when driving through Oklahoma City on the new I-40.

I also liked the inclusion of the devon tower in the renderings. Gave it some perspective and you might be able to see it when driving through.

Is this included in the regular I-40 funding, or is the city paying for it and, if so, do we have the money in place for it?

The city has a budget of 3.3 mil for this. They're also bringing in an engineering firm to administrate the project, which makes me feel better. Stan Carrol, the only licensed architect on the team, has done great work in the past, particularly since he branched off into creative metal work. Still, he's not done anything this big, so engineering firm should ensure this vision come to fruitition properly. The design has his influence all over it. Hats off to Stan!

cedbled
09-06-2008, 01:28 PM
It's the Birdman, Baby, BDR-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R!!!!!!

...That means it's FLY, literally
...That means I like it a lot....

edcrunk
09-06-2008, 01:36 PM
I also liked the inclusion of the devon tower in the renderings. Gave it some perspective and you might be able to see it when driving through.



thanx for pointing that out... i didn't even notice.

jbrown84
09-06-2008, 03:04 PM
I like the name too. Skydance Bridge.

Watson410
09-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Is that our ferris wheel in the lower rh corner rendering?

I'm pretty sure those are fireworks... not the ferris wheel.

Luke
09-06-2008, 06:21 PM
So this would be in the Core to Shore area then?

jbrown84
09-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Yes, connecting the parks on either side of I-40. Near Union Station.

Watson410
09-06-2008, 10:48 PM
When exactly will they start construction on the bridge? After I-40 is complete?

loulang2000
09-07-2008, 05:57 AM
The city has a budget of 3.3 mil for this. They're also bringing in an engineering firm to administrate the project, which makes me feel better. Stan Carrol, the only licensed architect on the team, has done great work in the past, particularly since he branched off into creative metal work. Still, he's not done anything this big, so engineering firm should ensure this vision come to fruitition properly. The design has his influence all over it. Hats off to Stan!

Aahhh. So is that how Butzer was able to enter at all? The call went out to Engineering and Architecture firms, and on his own, Hans isn't even licensed to actually practice architecture. Well, he certainly knows then how to put together a team. With Carrol, he got a big dose to talent and an entry ticket.

The Old Downtown Guy
09-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Stunning . . . yet another example of the wealth of design talent hard at work right here in our little city.

Saberman
09-07-2008, 10:45 AM
According to C2S drawings, it will be between Hudson and Robinson on a straight line from new Devon Tower.

tara2008
09-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Stan is not the only licensed architect on the team. Kenneth Fitzsimmons of TASK design, inc. is licensed as well.

tara2008
09-07-2008, 02:40 PM
The city has a budget of 3.3 mil for this. They're also bringing in an engineering firm to administrate the project, which makes me feel better. Stan Carrol, the only licensed architect on the team, has done great work in the past, particularly since he branched off into creative metal work. Still, he's not done anything this big, so engineering firm should ensure this vision come to fruitition properly. The design has his influence all over it. Hats off to Stan!

Actually, Stan is NOT the only licensed architect on the team. Kenneth Fitzsimmons of TASK design, inc. is licensed as well.

tara2008
09-07-2008, 04:14 PM
Sorry for the duplicate posts!!!

BG918
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Looks great. Will this be built after I-40 is complete or will they do it while they're building the new highway?

Kerry
09-07-2008, 08:55 PM
I hope they can make this bridge glow white at night.

metro
09-08-2008, 07:52 AM
Stan Carrol is also the designer who created the art bike racks for Urban Neighbors and Downtown OKC Inc.

CuatrodeMayo
09-08-2008, 08:38 AM
Love it. It will really stand out from the neighborhood for a while tho...lol.

Doug Loudenback
09-08-2008, 09:31 AM
I've added a blog article with some background on this project here: Doug Dawgz Blog: Core To Shore: The I-40 Pedestrian Bridge (http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2008/09/core-to-shore-i-40-pedestrian-bridge.html)

edcrunk
09-08-2008, 10:29 AM
I hope they can make this bridge glow white at night.
from one of the pics, it looks like one will be lit up red and one lit up blue...
unless that is the reflection from the fireworks.

Doug Loudenback
09-08-2008, 11:13 AM
This report at News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | ODOT faces funding crunch (http://www.kwtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8967403) is disconcerting. I happened to see Steve when arriving and mentioned the News9 article ... he didn't think there was much cause for concern, and I hope he is right! We shall see.

Doug Loudenback
09-08-2008, 02:05 PM
I went to City Hall this afternoon and took photos of the SkyDance model and have added them to my blog post at Doug Dawgz Blog: Core To Shore: The I-40 Pedestrian Bridge (http://dougdawg.blogspot.com/2008/09/core-to-shore-i-40-pedestrian-bridge.html) . Here are 3 of the 7 images:

Larger: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_02.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_02s.jpg

Larger: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_03.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_03s.jpg

Larger: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_06.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/coretoshore/9_8_08_06s.jpg

Thunder
09-08-2008, 03:28 PM
That is amazing. If something goes wrong, just ask Devon to accept the bill for it.

Doug Loudenback
09-08-2008, 03:32 PM
That is amazing. If something goes wrong, just ask Devon to accept the bill for it.
Well, I think that Devon is already doing more than its share, don't you? :)

bdhumphreys
09-08-2008, 08:17 PM
Posted an update on the pedestrian bridge including video interview with Hans and Stan:

imagiNATIVEamerica More on the I-40 Pedestrian Bridge (http://imaginativeamerica.com/2008/09/more-on-the-i-40-pedestrian-bridge/)

Doug - thanks for posting the pictures of the model. They help orientate the design and allow you to take in the whole thing.

Thunder
09-08-2008, 11:17 PM
Well, I think that Devon is already doing more than its share, don't you? :)

What they are doing is great for OKC, but the reason behind it is to have more office space for their own company.

It wouldn't hurt them at all to pay for this bridge. They should be interested in helping see to it that this bridge be built, since it is said to be directly a straight line from the Devon skyscraper. It would enhance their image.

We need an iconic parking garage on the other side. It would be nice to see a steady flow of people marching across the bridge to big events.

Doug Loudenback
09-09-2008, 02:08 AM
What they are doing is great for OKC, but the reason behind it is to have more office space for their own company.

It wouldn't hurt them at all to pay for this bridge. They should be interested in helping see to it that this bridge be built, since it is said to be directly a straight line from the Devon skyscraper. It would enhance their image.

We need an iconic parking garage on the other side. It would be nice to see a steady flow of people marching across the bridge to big events.
Last time I checked, it was up to me as to what, if any, charitable, benevolent, or philanthropic contributions I would make. Do you think that corporations, Devon in particular, should be held to a different standard? I haven't noticed that Devon has been chincy in its own philanthropic choices in this city, but, that said, what status does anyone else have to tell Devon what it should do in that regard? And, if such status exists, why would the same standards not be applicable to you, or to me, and to everyone else? You wouldn't like me telling you what you should do in that regard any more than I would you telling me.

HOT ROD
09-09-2008, 03:36 AM
why don't you pay for it Thunder?

mturner
09-09-2008, 11:49 AM
Actually, Stan is NOT the only licensed architect on the team. Kenneth Fitzsimmons of TASK design, inc. is licensed as well.

Right, but he's a recent out of state transplant right? He was with his brother's firm, Fitzsimmons Architects, then switched to his own, and now is on the Butzer team, right? Has he done anything on his own here in Oklahoma?

Thunder
09-09-2008, 12:44 PM
It was just a thought for the officials to ask Devon to expand their skyscraper plans to include the bridge. Giving back to the community, isn't that a great way to do?

jbrown84
09-09-2008, 01:27 PM
Well, this is nowhere near their building, and Devon is already committing to building a new park area and funding major upgrades to the Myriad Gardens. They also have given to the Zoo, the river boats, and St. Anthony. They are overwhelmingly philanthropic.

FritterGirl
09-09-2008, 01:41 PM
It was just a thought for the officials to ask Devon to expand their skyscraper plans to include the bridge. Giving back to the community, isn't that a great way to do?

Thunder, you've got to trust folks on this one.

Devon's building, which is costing approx. $750 million, will generate approximately $100 million (if not more) in TIF funds, that will go directly to improving the area around their building site. The TIF funds will pay for improvements to the Myriad Gardens, plus other city improvements.

If that is alone is not enough, Devon contributes significantly to multiple charitable and arts organizations annually. I'm not certain what their annual giving budget it, but it is significant.

I would think just the initial $750 investment is quite enough, given how it will completely spur ongoing development downtown, especially with Core 2 Shore.