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BFizzy
08-27-2008, 05:41 PM
Oklahoma City NBA team to get name next week
29 minutes ago

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Oklahoma City's new NBA franchise has finally set a date to announce its name and team colors.

The team said Wednesday that it would unveil the name and colors simultaneously on its Web site and at a downtown event Sept. 3.

Clay Bennett's ownership group has applied for trademarks for six names: Thunder, Energy, Wind, Marshalls, Barons and Bison.

Oklahoma City television station KOCO has reported that the choice will be Thunder, but Bennett has refused to comment on what the name will be.

The former Seattle SuperSonics announced on July 2 that they would be moving to Oklahoma City.

The Associated Press: Oklahoma City NBA team to get name next week (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jtkQAmEAcPleZd_BRfF9EKz2sP5wD92QT3900)

UnFrSaKn
08-27-2008, 06:11 PM
OKC NBA team nickname to be announced Sept. 3 | NewsOK.com (http://www.newsok.com/article/3289525/)

By Mike Baldwin
Staff Writer
The wait is nearly over.

Oklahoma City’s NBA team is expected to announce Thunder will be the nickname at 5 p.m. next Wednesday, Sept. 3, when it releases the team name, its mark, the four team colors and logo at a press conference at Leadership Square.

Team officials would neither confirm nor deny whether Thunder is the nickname.

Team uniforms, home and road, won’t be announced until late September.

Team merchandise will be available on Wednesday following the announcement.

And don’t put any credence in uniform designs that have appeared on the Internet with Thunder logos. All designs have been speculative and have no affiliation with the NBA or Oklahoma City’s franchise.

All signs pointed to Thunder being the nickname when the NBA released the 2008-09 schedule earlier this month. For a few hours, if someone linked Oklahoma City on any of the team’s 82 games on the NBA’s master schedule, all links pointed to www.nba.com/thunder.

Later that day the Thunder URL was inactive.

The NBA filed trademark rights to six nicknames for Oklahoma City’s franchise in July, according to the U.S. patent and trademark office. Thunder was one of six names filed. The others were: Barons, Bison, Energy, Marshalls and Wind.

Thunder has been believed to be the nickname for more than a month after KOCO reported the company the NBA uses to file domain names purchased okcthunderbasketball.com on July 10.

Since Thunder is expected to be the nickname, there’s been speculation whether Oklahoma City’s NBA team would try to purchase domain names from a communications company in California, which has owned thunder.com and thunder.net since 1994.

That won’t be necessary.

The NBA owns rights to its Web site which would allow the league to link the Oklahoma City team’s Web site to the page: www.nba.com/thunder without infringing on the domain rights of the California company.

For example, jazz.com is a music Web site that currently features a story on whether hip-hop and jazz can mix, but THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE UTAH JAZZ (http://www.nba.com/jazz) takes you to the Utah Jazz’s home page.

Thunder.net communications in July extended domain name rights through 2011. In a question and answer segment on the Web site, it was asked if the thunder domain names could be purchased.

The answer: “In case you thought you’re the first to ask, you’re 14 years too late. The answer has always been No. They’re not for sale. The domains are in use.”

A follow-up question suggested everyone has a price. The answer was: “You’d have a real challenge trying to convince an unmotivated party to sell. Sale prices in recent years indicate prime dictionary-based domain names are worth many millions, so your initial offer would have to break records for domain name sales prices.”

AFCM
08-27-2008, 06:28 PM
I've heard the color scheme will be a dark blue or royal blue with silver or white. That's just what I've heard.

CrimsonOberon
08-27-2008, 06:40 PM
I've heard the color scheme will be a dark blue or royal blue with silver or white. That's just what I've heard.


That sounds okay. Not the Black and Gold I was hoping for, but if true, it is much better than the red, white and blue scheme I had feared would be chosen.

Either way, I'm still wary of some of the enthusiasm getting lost in the football craze.

worthy cook
08-27-2008, 08:19 PM
Its going to be the Barons.

My friends mom who did the balloons for the Hornets got hired to do the balloons for the announcement. She could be pulling my chain but she has been reliable on stuff in the past.

AFCM
08-27-2008, 08:54 PM
Its going to be the Barons.

My friends mom who did the balloons for the Hornets got hired to do the balloons for the announcement. She could be pulling my chain but she has been reliable on stuff in the past.


Interesting.

soonergal
08-27-2008, 09:07 PM
I really like those colors of dark blue and silver/white...don't care for Energy nor Wind for the name...I can handle Barons, Marshalls, Thunder or Bison (in that order) just don't care for the wind and energy...jmo

Kerry
08-27-2008, 09:22 PM
If the dark blue and silver/white holds then my hopes for Energy might come true. With an announcement still a week away and uniforms a month out I don't think the name is Thunder. According to the media, Thunder has been the name for over a month. I think you could come up with a uniform in a lot less than 2 months. The media has been hood-winked with the Thunder links and leaks.

AFCM
08-27-2008, 09:38 PM
Its going to be the Barons.

My friends mom who did the balloons for the Hornets got hired to do the balloons for the announcement. She could be pulling my chain but she has been reliable on stuff in the past.

Is there any way you can find out the color scheme for the celebration?

OKCisOK4me
08-27-2008, 09:49 PM
Its going to be the Barons.

My friends mom who did the balloons for the Hornets got hired to do the balloons for the announcement. She could be pulling my chain but she has been reliable on stuff in the past.

If she also had inside info on Devon's tower being 925 ft tall, then I'm content with her announcement to you!

the_Mont
08-27-2008, 10:55 PM
Worthy Cook I hope your mom is right!

LIL_WAYNE_4_PREZIDENT08
08-27-2008, 11:03 PM
Im sure they already know what its all gonna be

Why cant they just tell us?

Luke
08-27-2008, 11:07 PM
Barons!

Barons!

Barons!

worthy cook
08-27-2008, 11:46 PM
not my mom. friends mom who got hired to do balloon work. like i said, take it with a grain of salt. but it seemed pretty legit. either way I just want a damn name.

maybe the name WAS going to be thunder and purposedly leaked it to get responses. when all the negativeness and genericness (is that even a word) came out about it maybe they changed thier minds.

who knows though. finally glad this guessing game will be done.

HOT ROD
08-28-2008, 02:01 AM
Barons, Barons, Barons.

Notice how irresponsible the Daily Oklahoman was and has been all throughout this ordeal, trying to PUSH the name 'thunder' on its readers. Whereas, look at the AP story (first post here) and see it was STRICTLY THE NEWS.

Steve, is there ANY WAY you could provide feedback to the editor and the brass at the Oklahoman, that their reporting is so biased and subjective - that it gets in the way of REPORTING THE NEWS! See post 1 vs. post 2 in this thread, and tell me which is proper journalism and therefore preferred.

The whole article written by Mike Baldwin of the Oklahoman seemed like he's trying to push people to ACCEPT Thunder as the name, that it is so! - and yet not official tho. Come on, Im so tired of third grade reporting in OKC. Why couldn't Mike just write the story like the AP did - "OKC NBA expected to announce team name, colors, etc on Wednesday."

No speculation, no bias, no PUSH. JUST NEWS!!!!!

Anyways, tell the D-OK that the majority here on the forum (and that voted in the OKC business poll) like Oklahoma City Barons - maybe they can start PUSHING that.

dcsooner
08-28-2008, 02:24 AM
can someone give an example of what blue and silver would look like?

plmccordj
08-28-2008, 05:05 AM
How hard is it to see that it is Thunder? You can still go to http://www.nba.com/thunder and get the blank page. If you go to any other site other than a team that already exists you get the page not found. Just try it and you will see that it still works.

kevinpate
08-28-2008, 05:23 AM
Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Less than a week and the message traffic takes a dive because there will be such a dearth of matters to speculate and fret about. Whatever will we do, whatever will we do?! :)

ssandedoc
08-28-2008, 06:10 AM
It is possible the Thunder was a plant after KOCO reporting it's Thunder. Remember Bennett likes plural words with a "s" at the end. If the Thunder thing was a swerve, brilliant job on their part.

okc_bel_air
08-28-2008, 07:34 AM
Having worked in the marketing field for 12 years now I can see whats going on.

They are using all the message boards, newspapers, etc. as a Focus Group. They want to have a name that is well accepted and liked. I am sure Bennet has someone reading these things everyday and reporting back our responses.

As for the website addresses.....It only takes minutes to change the code on the web server. All they have to do to change it over to the Barons is change one line of HTML. It is so easy to put up a temporary link to through everyone off.

Guess we will find out next week.

OKCMallen
08-28-2008, 08:24 AM
Its going to be the Barons.

My friends mom who did the balloons for the Hornets got hired to do the balloons for the announcement. She could be pulling my chain but she has been reliable on stuff in the past.

Well, I have credible info that it's the Thunder. I guess we cancel each other out. :)

metro
08-28-2008, 08:32 AM
If the dark blue and silver/white holds then my hopes for Energy might come true. With an announcement still a week away and uniforms a month out I don't think the name is Thunder. According to the media, Thunder has been the name for over a month. I think you could come up with a uniform in a lot less than 2 months. The media has been hood-winked with the Thunder links and leaks.

I agree. I think it is plausable. Only time will tell. I agree, this could easily be a "focus group" test run to test market reaction. It's easy to set up a spoof link and change it on a moments notice, heck I can do it and I'm not an IT guy. I think there could still be a dark knight out there, 89ers. There old colors where white and blue with a hint of red. Bennett's basically already owns the name if I remember correctly. I think it nods to our history nicely and isn't too "hickish" for people that are too image conscious. OR this whole "leaking of info" could be intentional. As a marketing professional as well okc bel air, let's not forget the possibility of this being an intentional name leak and the value of building up hype through that means as well. The name could already be fixed as Thunder, like it or not.

Let's play this out a little if the "source" is reliable on the colors if they are blue, silver, and white. Potential Names: Thunder, Energy, Wind, Marshalls, Barons and Bison.

Thunder - possible, if going with a "lightning" theme.
Energy - very possible, especially with McClendon and his blue flame company
Wind - possible, doubtful because too lame of a name and easy setup for media jokes "The wind breaks lose", "OKC couldn't break wind tonight".
Marshalls - doubtful, name is not spelled commonly and no one really uses the term much
Barons - lame colors for mascot, name is doubtful given NBA stipulations and current situation
Bison - very doubtful, not likely to have a blue and silver bison
89ers - plausible, similar to past colors but possibly an image update, could be the dark knight name in all of this.

worthy cook
08-28-2008, 09:05 AM
Haha Im sure your source was more credible. But I figured I would tell everyone what I heard cause it took me by surprise.

Thunder or Barons or whatever, it doesn't matter to me anymore.

kmf563
08-28-2008, 09:16 AM
I too have inside info that claims the name is Thunder. They also say the colors will be the dark blue with silver/white. I'm going with that. I like the colors and the name. I know certain people think we can't have a good mascot with that name....but if the Jazz can have a note, I think we can have a cloud with lightening coming out of it. The design looks sharp with the colors! And who doesn't want to chant AC/DC at a basketball game?!

OKCMallen
08-28-2008, 10:02 AM
And who doesn't want to chant AC/DC at a basketball game?!



That alone sold me.

You've been.....THUNDERSTRUCK!!!!

http://ak.static.dailymotion.com/dyn/preview/320x240/7782425.jpg

OU Adonis
08-28-2008, 10:03 AM
And who doesn't want to chant AC/DC at a basketball game?!

People under 30.

kmf563
08-28-2008, 10:13 AM
People under 30.

Wrong. Have you witnessed the whole rockband wave that's moving over teenagers and college kids? They love that metal crap more than any age group I've ever seen. I am personally NOT an AC/DC fan...and I'm over 30. But I'll be happy to chant it at a game!

westsidesooner
08-28-2008, 10:26 AM
I'm over 30 also and AC/DC was never one of my favorites growing up. But their songs bring back memories now and KMF563 is right, young poeple love 80s hardrock. Their youtube thunderstruck video has over 7,000,000 hits. I doubt thats all older people surfin youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvoeeq-BH4w

BostonUpoke
08-28-2008, 10:31 AM
The team name is Thunder. My roommate is dating one of the owner's daughter and he has seen a booklet of all sorts of merchandise. He said the colors are like a darker blue with a sunset orange color. He said he didn't love the jereseys or the logo. He tried to draw me a sketch of the logo but I didn't get a great idea of what the logo was supposed to look like.

Another one of my buddies was at Bob Howard's house recently and said he saw the same booklet.

OKCMallen
08-28-2008, 10:45 AM
People under 30.

I am under 30 and can't WAIT to chant it!

metro
08-28-2008, 11:34 AM
I'm under 30 and think it's lame.

SouthsideSooner
08-28-2008, 12:01 PM
I'm under 30 and think it's lame.


What day did you get to pick out your seats?

AFCM
08-28-2008, 01:53 PM
The team name is Thunder. My roommate is dating one of the owner's daughter and he has seen a booklet of all sorts of merchandise. He said the colors are like a darker blue with a sunset orange color. He said he didn't love the jereseys or the logo. He tried to draw me a sketch of the logo but I didn't get a great idea of what the logo was supposed to look like.

Another one of my buddies was at Bob Howard's house recently and said he saw the same booklet.

Blue and orange? Yuck, that sounds like a Denver or Boise State Broncos rip off.

oklahoma2000
08-28-2008, 02:19 PM
Someone needs to go to Howard's house with an i-phone get a picture.

Kerry
08-28-2008, 02:58 PM
The team name is Thunder. My roommate is dating one of the owner's daughter and he has seen a booklet of all sorts of merchandise. He said the colors are like a darker blue with a sunset orange color. He said he didn't love the jereseys or the logo. He tried to draw me a sketch of the logo but I didn't get a great idea of what the logo was supposed to look like.

Another one of my buddies was at Bob Howard's house recently and said he saw the same booklet.

You guys are falling for the mis-direction. Didn't years of watching the wishbone teach you anything. The fullback doesn't have the ball.

Luke
08-28-2008, 03:01 PM
Fumblerooski! It's the TWISTERS!!!

NOOOOOO!!!!

just kiddin

betts
08-28-2008, 03:49 PM
https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/pack_planlist.htmI?l=EN&CNTX=&team=magic&selID=294

Scroll down and look at the game with OKC December 5. It seems hard to believe they would use orange, as most of us OU alums have trouble with that color. But, whatever it is, I'll get used to it.

John
08-28-2008, 03:56 PM
Remember Bennett likes plural words with a "s" at the end.

This 'statement' has always cracked me up.

He likes plural words? Really?

LordGerald
08-28-2008, 04:01 PM
I, too, find it difficult to believe blue and orange is the scheme. It's already used by the Warriors and the Bobcats. There is plenty of blue in the Western Conference, as well, including Denver, Salt Lake, Dallas, Memphis, New Orleans, the Clippers and the Suns.

AFCM
08-28-2008, 04:22 PM
https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/pack_planlist.htmI?l=EN&CNTX=&team=magic&selID=294

Scroll down and look at the game with OKC December 5. It seems hard to believe they would use orange, as most of us OU alums have trouble with that color. But, whatever it is, I'll get used to it.

Good find, unless they're a part of the conspiracy too.

AAC2005
08-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Here's another conspiracy theory: At 5:00, all the radio stations will simultaneously play this "Thunderstruck" song, or whatever it is, instead of "Oklahoma"...pretty cool, huh? huh? huh?

plmccordj
08-28-2008, 04:30 PM
It is Thunder guys. There is zero doubt in my mind that it is Thunder and if any of you have any experience on the web site development you could see they already have the page up with no data on it at http://www.nba.com/thunder. This is not a bad URL but rather a page with a white background with no content. I have done this myself when I wanted to take the page offline without physically taking it down. Replace Thunder on the URL for any of those other names and you will get page not found.

When you look at the registration dates when you click the links below you will see that okcthunderbasketball.com is the only one that was registered before Mark Rodgers' story broke on July 18th.


WHOIS domain registration information results for okcthunderbasketball.com from Network Solutions (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=okcthunderbasketball.com)

WHOIS domain registration information results for okcbaronsbball.com from Network Solutions (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=okcbaronsbball.com)

WHOIS domain registration information results for okcbisonbasketball.com from Network Solutions (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=okcbisonbasketball.com)

WHOIS domain registration information results for okcenergybasketball.com from Network Solutions (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=okcenergybasketball.com)

WHOIS domain registration information results for okcwindbasketball.com from Network Solutions (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=okcwindbasketball.com)

You can follow the timeline. The http://www.okcthunderbasketball.com / net was registered July 10th. Eight days later Mark Rodgers leaks the story and left the team with no big surprise. To put the element of surprise back into the game, they registered the other URL's three days later on July 21st. Look it up on Network Solutions Whois and you can see the dates yourself. I do not believe it was orchestrated that the NBA put that website up to confuse people. If you have ever put together a website, you know it is time consuming to build from scratch and make sure all the links work. I firmly believe that someone was building that page, renamed to index_temp.html or something and mistakenly posted that page when they posted the schedule. I have done it myself. When the time comes, they will take the file "index_temp.html, or what ever it is labeled and rename it to index.html to make it the primary site. I could be wrong but I seriously doubt it.

AFCM
08-28-2008, 04:32 PM
It's amazing how an organization that gets fined $250,000 for quoted slip-ups and sued for incriminating comments in emails can keep us in the dark regarding the team's nickname.

Kerry
08-28-2008, 04:52 PM
You guys are going to feel dumb when the name is not Thunder.

betts
08-28-2008, 05:26 PM
I'll be fine if the name is not Thunder, as long as it's not Wind. I don't love any of them, but I don't hate any either, except Wind. So, surprise me, Clay. It would certainly be interesting if he came up with one no one has even thought of. But the Mavs are blue, silver, black and white, so it seems odd we would pick a scheme that close to theirs.

OKCMallen
08-28-2008, 05:31 PM
You guys are going to feel dumb when the name is not Thunder.

Haha, what are you basing this on?!?

Kerry
08-28-2008, 06:05 PM
Haha, what are you basing this on?!?

I am basing this on the fact that I have nothing better to do right now except keep the debate going. Nothing will get people going like conspiracy theory talk.

jbrown84
08-28-2008, 08:37 PM
If she also had inside info on Devon's tower being 925 ft tall, then I'm content with her announcement to you!

I had inside info on Devon being 900'+, but I know nothing about the team name, sorry. ;)

AFCM
08-28-2008, 08:50 PM
I had inside info on Devon being 900'+, but I know nothing about the team name, sorry. ;)

I heard it was going to be 900+ as well, but I thought those were guy measurements.

Thunder
08-28-2008, 08:52 PM
https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/pack_planlist.htmI?l=EN&CNTX=&team=magic&selID=294

Scroll down and look at the game with OKC December 5. It seems hard to believe they would use orange, as most of us OU alums have trouble with that color. But, whatever it is, I'll get used to it.

The link that Betts posted shows what the Orlando Magic listed the info on the December 5th match.

Friday December 5, 2008, 7:00 PM Magic vs. Thunder


You guys are going to feel dumb when the name is not Thunder.

Kerry, please do not eat or drink at the time of the announcement. You do not want to choke to death when you hear Thunder being announced.

HOT ROD
08-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Thunder = LAME!

rhymes with Blunder; Seattle people have already adopted that for the nickname.

Thunderstruck = cheesy!

Luke
08-28-2008, 09:02 PM
I've got it guys...

The Thunder Barons!!!!

That's the only way to explain Thunder balloons and Baron pamphlets (or whatever they were)...

Unless it's all a big lie...

HOT ROD
08-28-2008, 09:13 PM
I like that better than "da, Thun-duh'

sounds so lame.

ThunderBarons does have a nice ring to it, though. .... Hmmmm.

Luke
08-28-2008, 09:30 PM
Thunder Baron actually existed on the internet before I made it up...

Urban Dictionary: thunder-baron (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thunder-baron)

But, it does indeed sound like a pretty unique nick name.

I like it.

HOT ROD
08-28-2008, 09:33 PM
I know Luke, maybe you're on to something.

Plus, it pleases just about everyone. We could nickname it also, Barons and Thunder. Sort of like SuperSonics (mostly known recently as the Sonics).

Anyways, I thought your name was creative - maybe Clay is still accepting feedback?

If so, ThunderBarons has my vote (if it can't be just plain Barons).

plmccordj
08-28-2008, 09:35 PM
Good or bad names are subjective. What gets me is when people say it sounds like a WNBA, or minor league. I am still trying to determine what makes a name minor leauge. I am certain that people in San Antonio complained when their team was named the Spurs just as any other team. I just want them to make it official and get it over with. I guess I can wait until next Wednesday because ultimately I am glad we have a team. I am not expecting a lot of love from Seattle regardless until they get another team.

HOT ROD
08-28-2008, 09:40 PM
But "the blunder" is way too easy of a derogatory chant to give them.

At least with "Robber" Barons, they'd still be saying the team name (BARONS). Not changing the name into a derogatory yet similarly spelled word.

jstanthrnme
08-28-2008, 10:30 PM
more evidence: https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/pack_planlist.htmI?l=EN&CNTX=&team=magic&selID=294

MrZ
08-28-2008, 11:00 PM
For anyone thinking their "inside source" is 100% right, let this little "leak" from last week remind you that things are not always what they seem.

http://www.kmbc.com/2008/0822/17269047_240X180.jpg
National Media Hype Over Obama VP Mystery Hits Lenexa - Politics News Story - KCTV Kansas City (http://www.kctv5.com/politics/17269874/detail.html#-)

NativeOkie
08-29-2008, 12:51 AM
Hot Rod,
Who cares what Seattle Fans think or say.
That is like a Oklahoma fan wondering what a state fan thinks.
When you are the best you don't care.
We have an NBA team, Kansas City does not, San Diego does not, Seattle does not, Baltimore " ", Las Vegas " ", Nashwille