You mean the additional Curve restaurant tenant?

Yes, from what I understand, they are close.

I've heard that a Pops is going in where the NH drugstore was. Just a rumor, but I heard it from people who live in NH.

Don't get that, seems it would kill lots of traffic to the Arcadia location.

I've heard that a Pops is going in where the NH drugstore was. Just a rumor, but I heard it from people who live in NH.

Not happening...

So what kind of restaurant is it, Tuck ?

CHK has said the new Nichols Hills Market will have a lunch counter but we don't know who is going to operate it or even the market as a whole.

It's also obvious there is going to be another restaurant added to the main part of Class Curve (not the Triangle) but we don't know the operator of that, either.

I've heard a few different rumors. One being that the store can be split into 3 different stores, one possibly being lululemon. Another possibility is for an urban outfitters to go in, which would obviously be convenient with Anthropologie being next door. Again, this is all speculation but it came from someone who is pretty involved with the development of the area.

Oklahoma needs an Urban Outfitters. It would do great.

Yeah, I am in NYC right now and I spent $200 at Irban Outfitters yesterday! Been wanting one so badly!

Oklahoma needs an Urban Outfitters. It would do great.

No doubt. But it would look better at 10th and Broadway instead of in a shiny new Classen Curve building. Most of their stores are in a renovated old building, although not all.

I don't think there would be enough space and/or parking for UO in that Triangle building.

But I know CHK wants to bring more "national retailers" to the area north of Whole Foods.

I don't think parking is an issue. It also has more parking than the dozen or so of UO's I've been to across the country.

In regards to Urban Outfitters, I can imagine it's a question of not if it's coming, but when. If it really is something that they want in their project, they will get it. They showed that with Whole Foods, and if it doesn't go into the newest building at the Triangle there will be plenty of room for it in the future once the rest of that block is developed.

H&M is another store along those lines that we desperately need...probably couldn't fit anywhere in the Curve though as it's set up.

Urban Outfitters has been looking for space since Anthropologie has, several years ago. They looked downtown but I think would not go there alone. If we had some thriving retail there it might have happened. I know they were considering space on Western as well, but might end up at the Triangle just because it's simple. My source hasn't chatted with their real estate person in awhile, so I've heard nothing in the last few months.

Betts can you check with your daughter the status?

I checked last month but she hadn't seen the real estate person recently, so hadn't had a chance to ask.

Drove by last Friday, they are doing demo/site prep on 58th just behind CC.

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hopefully they will close 58th soon ... it has been defered about 4 times at the City council ..

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$100K building permit for a 1,405 square foot restaurant in Classen Curve. I believe this will be for one of the buildings at the southern end.

Tuck, care to reveal the operator? It's not listed on the permit.

I'm not sure. Are you positive it's a restaurant? Which building?

Not sure which building...

It's definitely for a restaurant but may be a remodel/expansion of one of the existing ones in that complex.

Republic is expanding their patio...could be this.

Hope it's not $100,000 for a patio!!! But 1400 sq. ft is small for a restaurant.

Looking at the address, I think this is for Republic.

A colleague of mine told me that Urban Outfitters is finalizing a lease contract with Classen Triangle. Her fiance is a part of the land development team for Chesapeake, I believe.

Hope he's right.

That doesn't surprise me. The fact that Urban hasn't opened a store somewhere else in the metro, when they were looking at the same time as they were looking for an Anthropologie site, makes it logical to think they were waiting for this building in the Triangle.

I'm hearing Restoration Hardware as well.

I'm hearing Restoration Hardware as well.

I know it's not local, but I've been hoping for one for a long time. This is one of the few stores in which I Internet shop because there is nothing similar locally.

just a note but the closing of 58th st and part of military ave is now a done deal after yesterdays council meeting ... so we could see the expansion of CC sooner rather than later

also of note is that Councilmen Shadid redirected some money to fix some of the traffic issues in that area on western/grand

A colleague of mine told me that Urban Outfitters is finalizing a lease contract with Classen Triangle. Her fiance is a part of the land development team for Chesapeake, I believe.

I contacted UO a year or so back and mentioned this site to consider. I hope it goes through as it will be a great addition to the metro! Now if we could get American Apparel, they usually follow in the footsteps as UO.

UO would fit in a LOT better at 9th and Broadway, if they're serious about their brand image that is. But most people already regard UO as pretty phony as it is...

The Urban Outfitters in St. Louis is located inside the very traditional St. Louis Galleria mall. This, despite the presence nearby of the University City loop, which is an edgy but thriving 10-block long urban street scape, a short walk from Washington University. For what it's worth.

Not to mention the ones on the Vegas strip aren't the grungy look they'd "prefer".

Why does ABQ have one On their main college strip, and Campus Corner in Norman can't get one? It's a much more dense space, and a much richer school, and probably more students too.

Not to mention the ones on the Vegas strip aren't the grungy look they'd "prefer".

Why does ABQ have one On their main college strip, and Campus Corner in Norman can't get one? It's a much more dense space, and a much richer school, and probably more students too.

UNM has more students and faculty than OU. It's a big state school. But still, I agree with you about UO.

Why does ABQ have one On their main college strip, and Campus Corner in Norman can't get one? It's a much more dense space, and a much richer school, and probably more students too.

Because Oklahoma City and by extension, Norman, is always discounted by national retail chains. Same reason we don't have a lot of other stores.

The differences between OU and ABQ's main campus student population is actually not a huge gap based on some stuff I just saw on the internet. I think it's more along the lines of what betts just said... people have a negative image of here, they go online and can't find any photos or websites of any business districts here (e.g. UNP Norman still doesn't have a website, Campus Corner's website is kind of 'light'), and when they send a scout here the first thing they see is tons of old poorly maintained shopping centers. It's really no wonder. "You just have to look harder" is not something a guy in marketing wants to hear. We need better commercial development. We need organized voices speaking for these developments. It's no wonder big development sites can land tenants... they have tax money backing them and usually the whole thing is owned by a single entity and has a single voice speaking for them.

I think this is why Classen Curve is becoming so successful. Lots of money backing it, the place looks great, when you type "classen curve" into Google the very first link you get is to a modern website that looks like it was built this decade, and the whole development/real estate is largely under the control of the same people. That's a recipe for success.

UNM has more students and faculty than OU. It's a big state school. But still, I agree with you about UO.

If this website is accurate OU is slightly larger.

http://education-portal.com/articles/New_Mexico_%28NM%29_Colleges%2C_Trade_Schools%2C_a nd_Universities.html

http://education-portal.com/articles/Oklahoma_%28OK%29%3A_Summary_of_Oklahoma%27s_Colle ges%2C_Universities%2C_and_Career_Schools.html

I disagree, I think this is a central location that will serve all of the metro. Trust me, there are people who drive to Dallas for this store. The two I know of an have been to is in Northpark Mall and the other in Mockingbird Station across 75 from SMU. For the OU students who know and want UO, they will be happy to travel to this area, as well as any other of the target market. Its a niche market but I think once here many others will find there is more to it than grungy fashion.

I am not an huge fan by any means but there are certain items that are unique and I think will be a great addition to the area and the city.


**Also adds to my personal speculation that this area is being built up to support a college campus. Can anyone say "_________ School of Energy Management"?

**Also adds to my personal speculation that this area is being built up to support a college campus. Can anyone say "_________ School of Energy Management"?

This could all make sense as to why there are rumors of a Chesapeake tower that will be taller than Devon, and why they are buying up all that existing office space.

Turn the current campus into a university, and temporarily house employees in all those other recently bought buildings while a tower is being built :-).

Sales per sq ft of current merchants on Campus Corner don't even come close to attracting a group like UO. CC has tons of charm, history and has a special place for OU alumni...that's it! Revenues are low, parking issues, etc...

per the EDT meeting last week ....5 new retail tenants coming to okc .. per the chamber ... most unanounced

Sales per sq ft of current merchants on Campus Corner don't even come close to attracting a group like UO. CC has tons of charm, history and has a special place for OU alumni...that's it! Revenues are low, parking issues, etc...

Could that be a chicken and egg (good egg? LOL) dilemma? It is mainly food vendors, no real national retail that most drive to Dallas for. I'm confident Campus Corner could support a Urban Outfitters, American Apparel, and a few other large national retailers, and are what is needed to boost Campus Corner to the next level, followed by some housing.

Could that be a chicken and egg (good egg? LOL) dilemma? It is mainly food vendors, no real national retail that most drive to Dallas for. I'm confident Campus Corner could support a Urban Outfitters, American Apparel, and a few other large national retailers, and are what is needed to boost Campus Corner to the next level, followed by some housing.

Like I said...the current revenue numbers are extremely low! I bet they aren't 25% that of what Classen Curve merchants generate.

I know, but my question is do you think it's a chicken and egg dilemma, since it is mainly QSR options geared to college students?

Iron Starr is a little fancy for the average student. I think if Campus Corner had a better mix of offerings, including national retail, revenue levels would rise.

This could all make sense as to why there are rumors of a Chesapeake tower that will be taller than Devon, and why they are buying up all that existing office space.

Turn the current campus into a university, and temporarily house employees in all those other recently bought buildings while a tower is being built :-).

Who in their right mind has been saying those two things (CHK building a tower that will be taller than DVN's, and the CHK campus will be turned into a university)?

Who in their right mind has been saying those two things (CHK building a tower that will be taller than DVN's, and the CHK campus will be turned into a university)?

As to the first one, several on here even before the mystery tower thread started. As to the second one, only mrktguy29 and one other person I suppose.

All just fun speculation...

There is absolutely, positively no way Chesapeake has any intention of converting their campus into a university.

It makes absolutely no sense on many levels, not the least of which being: 1) Oklahoma cannot even come close to funding it's existing universities, public or private; and 2) They have close to a billion dollars invested in that area just in real estate with more active construction on many fronts and lots more on the boards.

I have absolutely no doubt that an Urban Outfitters would thrive anywhere in the metro, but Campus Corner would make a ton of sense.

As I highlighted the speculation... nothing more than giggles on my end as to what people take from these threads. It was not suppose to be taken seriously.

Tuckers location #2 coming to classen curve

I'd rather see Tuckers on Western, but I'm glad they're doing well enough to expand. I think their food is as good, for its genre, as all the other Good Egg offerings.

Tuckers location #2 coming to classen curve

Interesting. Tucker's and Republic right next to each other seems like a little bit of duplication, but I like them both a lot. How many empty spaces remain now?

Interesting. Tucker's and Republic right next to each other seems like a little bit of duplication, but I like them both a lot. How many empty spaces remain now?

... didn't they also recently agree to limiting the number of restaurants at Classen Curve, so duplication would be even more unlikely.

I don't see Tucker's in CC. To me, Tucker's is all about the old vintage Americana vibe of 23rd Street. It's somewhere I like taking my grandpa to, who lives nearby in J Park and we can just walk. I wouldn't take my grandpa to Republic or somewhere else with that level of yuppie-sheen, lest he think less of me.

I don't see Tucker's in CC. To me, Tucker's is all about the old vintage Americana vibe of 23rd Street. It's somewhere I like taking my grandpa to, who lives nearby in J Park and we can just walk. I wouldn't take my grandpa to Republic or somewhere else with that level of yuppie-sheen, lest he think less of me.

The yuppie crowd equally patronizes Tucker's. It's a polished up version of a greasy onion burger shop.

Exactly.