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jbrown84
11-11-2008, 03:16 PM
I see for lease signs on property that is nothing of the sort all the time, even in Bricktown. Developers are just lazy I guess.

PapaJack
11-12-2008, 08:27 PM
Developers MAY be lazy, but to contractors, time = $$$

Besides, look at the free pub that scrap sign generated on this Blog!

sroberts24
01-27-2009, 07:28 AM
yeah so this is dead or just on hold?

sroberts24
03-17-2009, 08:56 AM
i think i'm just going to keep asking about this project to make sure its still on peoples mind, haha.... so assuming nothing happening

Steve
03-17-2009, 09:04 AM
It's in development ICU in a coma along with pretty much everything else. The hospital ward is waiting for some sanity to return to the banking industry to wake the patients up.

sroberts24
03-17-2009, 09:16 AM
very nice, as long as its not in the development morgue

Pete
11-08-2012, 09:08 AM
Looks like this project may come up from the comatose...


Agenda item for the Nov. 14th Bricktown Design Review Committee:


JC Witcher of ADG, Inc., will make a presentation to the Committee, for informational purposes only, on a proposed 124-room hotel at the northeast corner of Main Street and Oklahoma Avenue.

Pete
11-08-2012, 09:12 AM
Here is the first proposal but something has obviously changed, as originally it was only to be 95 rooms, now we are up to 124.

Have no idea if it will still be a Holiday Inn; ownership of this property has not changed.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a49/DougLoudenback/bricktown/holidayinnexpress.jpg

catch22
11-08-2012, 09:18 AM
To clarify (without reading through 9 pages of material), the buildings currently on this site would be demolished?

Pete
11-08-2012, 09:20 AM
Here's the subject property shown in pink; blue is complete, yellow under construction or proposed:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/deepdeuce8.jpg

Pete
11-08-2012, 09:22 AM
To clarify (without reading through 9 pages of material), the buildings currently on this site would be demolished?

Previously, there was talk of trying to save the north brick wall but everything else was to be razed.

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2735/R020025050001rA.jpg

catch22
11-08-2012, 09:29 AM
The ball keeps rolling in downtown. Exciting. Looking forward to seeing some site plans so we can start critiquing! :Smiley122

catch22
11-08-2012, 09:36 AM
I just hope they don't build into where Oklahoma Ave "runs". Does the city have ROW for Oklahoma Ave just in the event it gets extended from 2nd to Main someday in the future? (Or even a pedestrian cooridor only)

HangryHippo
11-08-2012, 09:40 AM
Are there actual plans to extend Oklahoma to Main? That would make a ton of sense.

Skyline
11-08-2012, 10:04 AM
Are there actual plans to extend Oklahoma to Main? That would make a ton of sense.

I would like to see it extended with a designated/protected lane through the parking lots, but used for pedestrians and bicycles only.

betts
11-08-2012, 10:15 AM
Are there actual plans to extend Oklahoma to Main? That would make a ton of sense.

Oklahoma would have to have a bridge similar to the Walnut Bridge, as there are railroad tracks and a mini cliff. I still don't really see who would use it preferentially over Walnut or EK Gaylord. We locals wouldn't mind a set of stairs down the cliff for walking purposes, as I doubt anyone from Deep Deuce drives into Bricktown. The only time we did was when my husband sprained his ankle. Why pay for parking when you can walk for free?

HangryHippo
11-08-2012, 10:23 AM
Oklahoma would have to have a bridge similar to the Walnut Bridge, as there are railroad tracks and a mini cliff. I still don't really see who would use it preferentially over Walnut or EK Gaylord. We locals wouldn't mind a set of stairs down the cliff for walking purposes, as I doubt anyone from Deep Deuce drives into Bricktown. The only time we did was when my husband sprained his ankle. Why pay for parking when you can walk for free?

That's probably true. While it would be occasionally convenient, at your urging, I don't really see who would use preferentially either. And of course, I never pay for what I could do for free.

Anonymous.
11-08-2012, 10:29 AM
Also that would require either the removal of some of that big parking lot back there, or a bridge over that, too. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

sroberts24
11-08-2012, 02:08 PM
Yes!!!! I was really hoping this would be back on, don't really care what hotel chain it is, just think that a hotel in that location would bring much needed life to the north end of Bricktown.

Bellaboo
11-08-2012, 02:27 PM
This makes 8 hotels either proposed or under construction in BT or DD at this time. This is very good, considering just a few years ago we had only three.

Spartan
11-08-2012, 06:07 PM
Think we can afford to get picky on design now...

catch22
11-08-2012, 07:15 PM
Think we can afford to get picky on design now...

Not without any plans to go by for reference! I've got my fingers ready as soon as the renderings and site plans are released!

1.2.3. Go!

Spartan
11-09-2012, 08:54 AM
Well what they wanted to do before was demolition and replacing it with an EIFS structure. So I have my reservations..

Just the facts
11-09-2012, 09:28 AM
Think we can afford to get picky on design now...

I hope so. Here is how the 'informational only' meeting should go.

JC Witcher: How much EIFS can we use?
BDR: None
JC Witcher: How many off-street surface parking space can we build?
BDR: None. Customers can use existing lots or you can build structured parking.

LakeEffect
11-09-2012, 09:47 AM
I hope so. Here is how the 'informational only' meeting should go.

JC Witcher: How much EIFS can we use?
BDR: None
JC Witcher: How many off-street surface parking space can we build?
BDR: None. Customers can use existing lots or you can build structured parking.

At which JC will say, OK, we'll take your denial and go win at the BOA. Done.

Just the facts
11-09-2012, 09:52 AM
At which JC will say, OK, we'll take your denial and go win at the BOA. Done.

Probably. Or they could go to lower bricktown. All the EIFS and surface parking they can ask for.

wschnitt
11-09-2012, 11:12 AM
Previously, there was talk of trying to save the north brick wall but everything else was to be razed.

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2735/R020025050001rA.jpg

Do you mean the south wall? The one that is largely pictured?

wschnitt
11-09-2012, 11:49 AM
Boa?

Pete
11-09-2012, 11:53 AM
Do you mean the south wall? The one that is largely pictured?

No, believe it or not, it's the north wall they wanted to save.

It was discussed at length earlier in this thread.

catch22
11-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Boa?

Board of Adjustments

BoulderSooner
11-15-2012, 06:45 AM
Bricktown Holiday Inn Express back on track in Oklahoma City
Plans for a Holiday Inn Express in Bricktown are back on track with a new developer and more ambitious designs in Oklahoma City.

By Steve Lackmeyer | Published: November 15, 2012 Comment on this article Leave a comment


J.C. Witcher, project manager with Architectural Design Group, gave a presentation of new designs to the Bricktown Urban Design Committee on Wednesday that he said will be submitted for approval later this year.

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The Holiday Inn Express was first proposed in 2008, when a different architectural firm pitched designs that were widely criticized for featuring 49 percent synthetic stucco in its facade and a style that was dismissed as clashing with the surrounding historic warehouse district.

Read more: Bricktown Holiday Inn Express back on track in Oklahoma City | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/bricktown-holiday-inn-express-back-on-track-in-oklahoma-city/article/3728675#ixzz2CIZvSNcA)

UnFrSaKn
11-15-2012, 07:29 AM
They should hang some nice large prints of these and at least acknowledge what used to be on the site after it is built.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Old%20Oklahoma%20City/Bricktown/steffenicecreamcompany1945.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Old%20Oklahoma%20City/Bricktown/steffenicecreamcompany01.jpg

BoulderSooner
11-15-2012, 07:37 AM
that would be very cool ... and i hope they take that in to account

Bellaboo
11-15-2012, 07:52 AM
Notice the kids on the right with no shoes on........

HangryHippo
11-15-2012, 08:27 AM
The tiny picture that accompanies the headline on the NewsOK.com homepage looks to show a nice improvement over what was initially proposed. Unfortunately, there are no larger pictures once you click the article to read it, so who really knows?

Pete
11-15-2012, 08:38 AM
From NewsOk.com:

Images removed at Steve's request.

HangryHippo
11-15-2012, 08:41 AM
That's it! I, personally, believe it is a great improvement over the original stucco monster.

BoulderSooner
11-15-2012, 08:41 AM
thanks pete

Pete
11-15-2012, 08:42 AM
It's great to have so many hotel in process but it's time we get one or two that are more upscale.

Enough with these HVAC-through-the-wall projects.

LordGerald
11-15-2012, 08:53 AM
If this project comes to fruition, I think it's time to consider re-opening Oklahoma Avenue. Right now it stops at Main Street.

Just the facts
11-15-2012, 08:58 AM
I love it.

HangryHippo
11-15-2012, 09:01 AM
I suggested reopening Oklahoma elsewhere on the forum, but was told that Oklahoma will remain an afterthought in terms of people choosing to use it and also that it would require too much work because of the grade changes. I still think it's a good idea, although it could be very expensive to accomplish.

Just the facts
11-15-2012, 09:13 AM
Oklahoma Ave should be opened because it makes sense. They should also reopen the road that goes under the railroad and connects to EKG - even if they can only make it one-way.

betts
11-15-2012, 09:41 AM
Why are we so eager to make it easier for people to drive through Deep Deuce? To do so would remove our only real park, would allow far greater driving speeds and not improve conditions for pedestrians at all. I agree with Sid. Make it a pedestrian walkway.

HangryHippo
11-15-2012, 09:45 AM
Why are we so eager to make it easier for people to drive through Deep Deuce? To do so would remove our only real park, would allow far greater driving speeds and not improve conditions for pedestrians at all. I agree with Sid. Make it a pedestrian walkway.

Just to be clear, I never said anything about reopening it to cars. I just suggested reopening it. I actually think it just needs to be redone to allow easier/better (?) flow between two areas.

catch22
11-15-2012, 09:55 AM
Why are we so eager to make it easier for people to drive through Deep Deuce? To do so would remove our only real park, would allow far greater driving speeds and not improve conditions for pedestrians at all. I agree with Sid. Make it a pedestrian walkway.

I like and agree with Sid's idea and to open it as a pedestrian promenade. DD is difficult to get to (at least in the mind) because you either have to walk over a bridge, through a parking lot and up a hill, out of the way into East Bricktown up Russel M Perry, or under the elevated tracks and up Gaylord and then back under the tracks. All are barriers in my opinion. Oklahoma as a pedestrian only promenade would open DD to the pedestrian environment of Bricktown and vice versa.

BoulderSooner
11-15-2012, 09:57 AM
Why are we so eager to make it easier for people to drive through Deep Deuce? To do so would remove our only real park, would allow far greater driving speeds and not improve conditions for pedestrians at all. I agree with Sid. Make it a pedestrian walkway.

i don't really think it needs opening at all ... but if is is it should be for pedestrians only ....

Just the facts
11-15-2012, 09:57 AM
As much as the subject of re-opening Oklahoma Ave interest me, I don't want to derail this thread talking about it. :)

sroberts24
11-15-2012, 10:13 AM
We should have another thread to discuss that, lets keep this one on track... speaking, have I said how excited I am life is finally coming to this end of Bricktown besides Citywalk (YUK!)

hoya
11-15-2012, 10:17 AM
I'm not seeing pics on newsok.

Just the facts
11-15-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm not seeing pics on newsok.

They are gone from this thread as well. Maybe those were renderings from another city. I knew they looked too good to be in OKC. :(

hoya
11-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Pete, put the photos back up. Screw what Steve wants. :)

catch22
11-15-2012, 11:04 AM
I missed the renderings.....

Darn. :(

UnFrSaKn
11-15-2012, 11:04 AM
It would be great someday if you could drive straight to EKG from The Wedge. (1st St.)

onthestrip
11-15-2012, 11:06 AM
It's great to have so many hotel in process but it's time we get one or two that are more upscale.

Enough with these HVAC-through-the-wall projects.

Agree. While this certainly doesnt look like a typical Holiday Inn Express it still has the name. I Doubletree or something similar would be much better.

UnFrSaKn
11-15-2012, 11:08 AM
There's a rendering on Steve's article.

UnFrSaKn
11-15-2012, 11:12 AM
The good thing about this is it brings more attention to Main St. at that location and puts more pressure to get the old Mideke Supply Co. Building back on track and Sherman Ironworks across the street.

catch22
11-15-2012, 11:17 AM
Looks good.

hoya
11-15-2012, 11:25 AM
There's a rendering on Steve's article.

Okay now there is. There wasn't before.

wschnitt
11-15-2012, 11:29 AM
Where would parking be for this hotel?