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DVDFreaker
02-26-2008, 08:49 AM
Is Love's in front of Frontier City next to waffle house or something like that? I might go to there to get Godfather's

MikeLucky
02-26-2008, 08:52 AM
Taco Tico!!!!!!! I forgot about that place. You know what sucks though? The lack of Dairy Queen. I'll have to drive to Chickasha just to go there at some point. Why can't we have DQ?

There is actually a stand alone Taco Tico in Shawnee. I ate there the other day when I was driving through town. Taco Tico's are all over Wichita where I grew up and I wanted to see if this one still had the same food. And it was exactly as I remember it growing up.

As for DQ.... I am pretty sure Sonic and Braum's have a lot to do with DQ not being in the metro area...... just my theory......

Jesseda
02-26-2008, 09:20 AM
okay my wife and i drove to a taco tico in mcloud about a year or so ago to get the taco tico fix.. is taco tico still in mcloud??? i am in need of my fix again.. i love that place, wasnt there one in moore? I remember there was a taco place when i was a kid, it was east of 12th street and on broadway... it had like a little cheap playgorund outside as well

MikeLucky
02-26-2008, 09:39 AM
okay my wife and i drove to a taco tico in mcloud about a year or so ago to get the taco tico fix.. is taco tico still in mcloud??? i am in need of my fix again.. i love that place, wasnt there one in moore? I remember there was a taco place when i was a kid, it was east of 12th street and on broadway... it had like a little cheap playgorund outside as well

according to their website these are the OK locations:

Claremore
905 N. Lynn Riggs Blvd.
918-342-0050

Duncan
11 S. 81 Hwy.
580-255-3995

Elgin
7417 US Hwy. 277
580-492-5708

Guymon
408 NW 21st St.
580-338-8323

Pawhuska
140 E. Main
918-287-4992

Shawnee
1809 N. Harrison
405-878-0200

Tulsa
8720 E. 21st, Suite 201
918-728-7388

SoonerDave
02-26-2008, 09:41 AM
Dairy Queen used to have a rather substantial presence in the Oklahoma City market about, oh, twenty or thirty years ago. As I recall, they were all franchised/owned under the name of Dunn, and they were all "Dunn's Dairy Quenn."

Heck, most of the formerly DQ buildings are still readily recognizable by their trademark A-framed building and red-tile roof. Many of them have long since either been torn down or converted into other things like chinese take-out places. There's one over on May Avenue south of 59th, one on the south side of 59th east of Western, at least those are the ones that come to mind fairly readily.

My biggest thing at DQ was the blizzards. Oreo blizzards, to be exact - and since then it seems everyone and their dog are ripping off the concept, and none of them taste as good - I suspect its the unique brand of DQ softserve that made them so good.

The last one I had was at a DQ in Norman that was closed-and-dozed about two years ago. They are quite prevalent in Texas, however...

-sd

MikeLucky
02-26-2008, 09:47 AM
Dairy Queen used to have a rather substantial presence in the Oklahoma City market about, oh, twenty or thirty years ago. As I recall, they were all franchised/owned under the name of Dunn, and they were all "Dunn's Dairy Quenn."

Heck, most of the formerly DQ buildings are still readily recognizable by their trademark A-framed building and red-tile roof. Many of them have long since either been torn down or converted into other things like chinese take-out places. There's one over on May Avenue south of 59th, one on the south side of 59th east of Western, at least those are the ones that come to mind fairly readily.

My biggest thing at DQ was the blizzards. Oreo blizzards, to be exact - and since then it seems everyone and their dog are ripping off the concept, and none of them taste as good - I suspect its the unique brand of DQ softserve that made them so good.

The last one I had was at a DQ in Norman that was closed-and-dozed about two years ago. They are quite prevalent in Texas, however...

-sd

Actually, according to billboards, the DQ is a Texas stop sign......

:LolLolLol

DVDFreaker
02-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Dairy Queen used to have a rather substantial presence in the Oklahoma City market about, oh, twenty or thirty years ago. As I recall, they were all franchised/owned under the name of Dunn, and they were all "Dunn's Dairy Quenn."

Heck, most of the formerly DQ buildings are still readily recognizable by their trademark A-framed building and red-tile roof. Many of them have long since either been torn down or converted into other things like chinese take-out places. There's one over on May Avenue south of 59th, one on the south side of 59th east of Western, at least those are the ones that come to mind fairly readily.

My biggest thing at DQ was the blizzards. Oreo blizzards, to be exact - and since then it seems everyone and their dog are ripping off the concept, and none of them taste as good - I suspect its the unique brand of DQ softserve that made them so good.

The last one I had was at a DQ in Norman that was closed-and-dozed about two years ago. They are quite prevalent in Texas, however...

-sd


Yeah, so true, there is like a zillion Diary Queens in Texas but I don't even see a Braum's in Texas yet

MikeLucky
02-26-2008, 11:26 AM
Yeah, so true, there is like a zillion Diary Queens in Texas but I don't even see a Braum's in Texas yet

There are many Braum's in Texas.....

Braum's Ice Cream! (http://www.braums.com/StoreLocator.asp?r=1&s=TX)

DVDFreaker
02-26-2008, 11:43 AM
There are many Braum's in Texas.....

Braum's Ice Cream! (http://www.braums.com/StoreLocator.asp?r=1&s=TX)

Thanks, I haven't been to Texas in 5 years so I can't remember seeing a Braum's

SeinfeldBlock
02-26-2008, 01:39 PM
Dairy Queen used to have a rather substantial presence in the Oklahoma City market about, oh, twenty or thirty years ago. As I recall, they were all franchised/owned under the name of Dunn, and they were all "Dunn's Dairy Quenn."

Heck, most of the formerly DQ buildings are still readily recognizable by their trademark A-framed building and red-tile roof. Many of them have long since either been torn down or converted into other things like chinese take-out places. There's one over on May Avenue south of 59th, one on the south side of 59th east of Western, at least those are the ones that come to mind fairly readily.

My biggest thing at DQ was the blizzards. Oreo blizzards, to be exact - and since then it seems everyone and their dog are ripping off the concept, and none of them taste as good - I suspect its the unique brand of DQ softserve that made them so good.

The last one I had was at a DQ in Norman that was closed-and-dozed about two years ago. They are quite prevalent in Texas, however...

-sd

I completely agree with the Blizzards! You say that they are all the same (blizzards, blasts, mixes from Braum's) but they are not. I was raised in a small town on the border of Texas. There is still a DQ in my hometown. I still get a Blizzard when I visit. DQ is the Texas stop sign, just like Sonic is the OK stop sign.

SoonerDave
02-26-2008, 02:43 PM
You won't catch ME saying they're all the same, cuz they just AREN'T!! :)

My family went on a driving trip to Orlando several years ago, and on the way back home driving through Georgia my wife spotted a DQ.

DING DING DING!!!!

Mandatory Oreo Blizzard Stop!!!

And it was WONDERFUL. INCREDULICIOUS, in fact.

-sd

windowphobe
02-26-2008, 05:31 PM
Every summer I take a road trip (usually 4000+ miles), and I will always visit at least one Dairy Queen. (In 2007, it was the DQ in Galesburg, Illinois.)

CCOKC
02-26-2008, 05:38 PM
The only reason to stop at DQ is for a large dipped cone, period.

SeinfeldBlock
02-27-2008, 07:23 AM
You won't catch ME saying they're all the same, cuz they just AREN'T!! :)

My family went on a driving trip to Orlando several years ago, and on the way back home driving through Georgia my wife spotted a DQ.

DING DING DING!!!!

Mandatory Oreo Blizzard Stop!!!

And it was WONDERFUL. INCREDULICIOUS, in fact.

-sd

I don't think I meant you, I think I meant someone else, haha. I think the quote and my comment got all out of sorts... I know your feeling about spotting a DQ! I was driving back from the East Coast with my fiance, and I saw a DQ and we both flipped out. It was in Virginia. IT was soooooooooooo good. Sad thing though, I don't think I was excited as when I saw a Sonic in Arkansas. Never knew I'd miss those cheeseburgers so much....

SoonerDave
02-29-2008, 12:51 PM
Okedoke, new rumor.....

The Pearl's restaurant along I-240 that closed rather abruptly a couple of weeks ago is going to become...........

..an Old Chicago restaurant!

Don't know about anyone else, but I think that's a GOOD thing! Supposedly the Old Chicago people made Pearl's "an offer they couldn't refuse" for the building. Prolly kills any chance of the Hideaway-to-the-old-Harrigan's happening.

Other rumors/rumblings:

* The story that Home Depot at I-240 and Shields was going to move west, essentially into the parking lot of the Walnut Square shopping center, has apparently gone kaput - and apparently very recently. Not sure why, although there are some indications it may have something to do with a change in the I-240 interchange rebuild plans.

* Outback at I-240 and Penn is, or perhaps was, interested in moving to the Harrigan's location. That may have been indirectly tied to the prospective Home Depot move, so take it with a grain of salt either way.

* Already early talk about the future of at least a portion of Crossroads Mall as a non-retail entity, possibly including some remodeling into - get this - senior living space!?! Wacky rumor, I'll admit.

That's at least something new to chew on for now, folks...like I said, they're all rumors...nothing purported to be absolute fact, but just tidbits from people who would have reasonable sources.

-sd

soonerkev
02-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Oh man I love Old Chicago, Great Pizza and Beer!

okclee
02-29-2008, 01:00 PM
I have rumor info in regards to the Moore area Fritz Farms on 19th near the Home Depot. I know someone that knows Mrs. Fritz and she is saying that their will be a Target next to the Home Depot, not a Super Target as originally planned. Once again rumor only no facts other than word of mouth.

Jesseda
02-29-2008, 01:13 PM
To me i just dont know why the just gut crossroads mall and turn it into a large indoor outlet mall.. I think it would be great way to reintroduce a large large dying mall, plus we currently do not have a oklahoma outlet mall.. and what a location and size for one...

MrZ
03-01-2008, 09:44 AM
I saw a construction sign in front of the old Pearl's yesterday that said Old Chicago so I would say that rumor is true.

DVDFreaker
03-02-2008, 04:07 AM
I saw a construction sign in front of the old Pearl's yesterday that said Old Chicago so I would say that rumor is true.

Cool, although I never heard of the restaurant but if they said it has great pizza, I'm trying it then!

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-02-2008, 04:13 AM
Cool, although I never heard of the restaurant but if they said it has great pizza, I'm trying it then!

They've got about 100 beers, and pretty good food (for a chain restaurant anyway).

DVDFreaker
03-02-2008, 04:20 AM
I have rumor info in regards to the Moore area Fritz Farms on 19th near the Home Depot. I know someone that knows Mrs. Fritz and she is saying that their will be a Target next to the Home Depot, not a Super Target as originally planned. Once again rumor only no facts other than word of mouth.

Whatever happened to Best Buy? It would be nice to have a Target in Moore

soonerkev
03-02-2008, 08:45 AM
Best Buy is going to happen, it will be built near JCPenney's.

DVDFreaker
03-02-2008, 08:09 PM
They've got about 100 beers, and pretty good food (for a chain restaurant anyway).

I don't care about the beer, beer is gross

Easy180
03-02-2008, 08:14 PM
I don't care about the beer, beer is gross

Sacrilege!!

:Smiley051

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-02-2008, 08:16 PM
I don't care about the beer, beer is gross

http://members.cox.net/imawingnut/smileys/slap.gif

Easy180
03-05-2008, 08:21 PM
The big-box retailer will occupy 30,038 square feet with plans to open in late 2008

Got this from the city's website....Does anyone know if this will be an average sized Best Buy?

Just wondering since the one in Norman seems much smaller than the Crossroads location

Jesseda
03-06-2008, 06:27 AM
Its going to be almost half the size of the best buy at crossroads..

SoonerDave
03-06-2008, 06:59 AM
Actually, a smaller BB in Moore makes sense, because I was told by a BB employee that they are NOT going to shut down the Crossroads location, which didn't make sense to me.

He said the only possibility is that the Crossroads BB might move west, farther down I-240, and my inference from that was in a location to compete with Circuit City's new location in the I-240 Penn Plaza. Even at that, you still have two BB's in fairly close proximity to each other. If they make a really small store in Moore, that almost starts to make sense - smaller/simpler inventory, and if you need a slightly bigger-ticket item, go to the bigger store.

Dunno how its all going to play out. We'll see, I s'pose...

I still want a BARNES AND NOBLE somewhere on the south side. You know, we DO read books on occasion south of SW 74th....have to have something to do after we run to our outhouses....

-soonerdave

flintysooner
03-06-2008, 07:16 AM
I found this about Best Buy: Best Buy | Investor Relations | Frequently Asked Questions (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=83192&p=IROL-FAQ#store3)

How big are Best Buy stores?

We are currently building Best Buy stores in the United States in three sizes -- 45,000 square feet, 30,000 square feet, and 20,000 square feet - depending on the size of the market. However, in the past we have built stores as big as 58,000 square feet. In Canada, Future Shop stores average 27,000 square feet`and Canadian Best Buy stores are 30,000 or 36,000 square feet.

A Barnes and Noble would be nice but I've been told it isn't very likely.

Martin
03-06-2008, 07:39 AM
wow... unless the crossroads bestbuy moves to around 74th & penn, that just seems like oversaturating the market to me. if the moore location goes in, you'll have a bb on main & i-35 in norman, one on 19th & i-35 in moore and another on i-240 & i-35 in okc... it seems that they'll be competing with each other.

-M

okclee
03-06-2008, 07:51 AM
Don't under-estimate the Moore population boom that is occuring, especially east of I-35. If any other competitor (Circuit City, Ultimate, Conns, etc.) were to open a Moore location it would take away from both the Norman and the South Bestbuys. Also Wal-mart has locations at the three locations mentioned along I-35.

flintysooner
03-06-2008, 08:10 AM
I usually drive to Norman instead of Crossroads. I will use the Moore store when it opens.

Martin
03-06-2008, 08:21 AM
not that i'm underestimating moore... from bestbuy's perspective they'll have 3 stores that potentially cut into each other's profitability. if people are willing to drive all the way to norman just to go, why go through the expense of operating another store so close by? the stores are just stealing business from each other is all i'm saying. -M

okclee
03-06-2008, 08:27 AM
I understand , and I would agree. Except if one of the Best Buy competitors were to open in the Moore location then the profitability would be cut as well. To answer your question, Best Buy could operate a smaller store and use the Norman or Moore for their large inventory. Therefore cutting some of the expense in order to make the Moore location feasible.

flintysooner
03-06-2008, 08:29 AM
I disagree with you mmm. If there were a Best Buy in Moore I would probably buy some stuff from them. If I do have to use them I usually go to Norman but it is only marginally less irritating to me than Crossroads. There are plenty of ways for me to buy stuff.

I am buying a home theater system now. I looked at two small contractors and chose one of them.

It is very competitive out there.

okclee
03-06-2008, 08:40 AM
I have friends and family that live near the 19th and I-35 Moore area. The population growth there is unbelievable to me. I may be wrong but , I think it is the fastest growing area in the state in regards to residential housing construction.

Also the traffic in that area is becoming worse every day.


Another question off the topic, but what is the sales tax rate in Moore??

Jesseda
03-06-2008, 08:45 AM
you dont have to tell me i live off by 19th and I-35, i bought a house last summer off of 19th between telephone road and santa fe.. I didnt even notice the traffic when we bought, but we found out quick.. I love it that we can exit our quiet community and with on turn we have everything we need fron entertainment shopping and dinning, our kids love it and we are trying to avoid our tax dollars going to okc or norman, so a best buy will be great.. now we need a book store.

Martin
03-06-2008, 08:51 AM
i disagree with you mmm...

fair enough... obviously bb thinks the arrangement will work and i'm positive they've put more thought into a new location than my armchair quarterback analysis.

new home theatre, eh? what equipment did you decide on?



also the traffic in that area is becoming worse every day.

totally agree. moore is way behind in beefing up the roads to accommodate extra traffic. traveling 19th has become a headache for many people. i don't think they'll get santa fe widened from two lanes in time to accommodate the new highschool... they waited till the building was practically finished before even start road construction... moore's never been good about maintaining or building adequate roads.

-M

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-06-2008, 08:54 AM
Yeah? What equipment?

flintysooner
03-06-2008, 09:22 AM
In home theater room: LG 50" Plasma, Proficient front and rear speakers, JBL center and sub, LG upconvert DVD, Denon Receiver. Rest of house has Proficient controller and speakers. Wiring Solutions (http://www.wiringsolutions.com/) is doing it for me along with security.

Also talked to Home Theater Design Group (http://www.htdginc.com/) and had a good demo there.

Martin
03-06-2008, 09:34 AM
cool! sounds like you've got quite the setup. -M

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-06-2008, 10:39 AM
That sounds nice flintysooner!

I'm running a Denon receiver, Klipsch mains, center, surrounds, and sub. With a sammy DLP for display. Got the Xbox 360 for my soon to be obsolete HD DVD player, and a Denon for regular DVD's. I'm waiting for a GOOD BluRay player to be under $200 before I buy.

My receiver is also wired to speakers on the back porch as well as a pair in the master bedroom, each having their own remote controls and "zone", so they can all play different sources.

I wired it all myself. Next time though...I'll probably pay to have it done. That was a PITA.

Martin
03-06-2008, 10:51 AM
i've got a klipsch setup, too and absolutely love 'em. klipsch makes some bad-to-the-bone speakers, imo. i've got those hooked to a decent yamaha receiver. sony 46" lcd for a display. aging sony dvd player that doesn't upscale... i think i'm going to get sony's bdp-550 when it comes out, probably this fall, to replace that. also have got a little dell hooked in as an htpc.

-M

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-06-2008, 11:04 AM
Yup...I looooove my Klipsch. I've even got their 5.1 setup on my computer.


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i199/imawingnut/halo3.jpg

Martin
03-06-2008, 11:11 AM
are those rf-35's? looks like the exact same mains as i've got. i never did spring for klipsch's5.1 setup on my pc. still using some 10 year old yamaha's that still sound decent enough. -M

flintysooner
03-06-2008, 12:21 PM
The Proficient M4 controller supports 6 sources and 4 rooms with keypads with built in IR. It seemed a good choice to me to control the rest of the house. It was inexpensive, too. Receiver is the Denon AVR 588 6.1. I thought it was really inexpensive as well.

Thanks for the images.

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-06-2008, 12:53 PM
mmm, Yup, they're the RF35's.

I'm using the 12" sub with them. Makes the doors to the house rattle. :D

DVDFreaker
03-06-2008, 07:29 PM
I am dissapointed there won't be no bookstore in Moore, I guess I have to drive to Barnes and Noble in Norman :(

bkm645
03-06-2008, 08:14 PM
I am dissapointed there won't be no bookstore in Moore, I guess I have to drive to Barnes and Noble in Norman :(

It cost an arm and a leg to buy a book at Barnes and Noble or Borders. Go to the library, or buy them online from a place like Half.com. You can still look inside most books on Amazon, so it's like having a book store in your home.

DVDFreaker
03-06-2008, 08:21 PM
It cost an arm and a leg to buy a book at Barnes and Noble or Borders. Go to the library, or buy them online from a place like Half.com. You can still look inside most books on Amazon, so it's like having a book store in your home.

I don't buy them, I just like to read comics, the library doesn't have comics that I want to read so I go to Barnes and Noble for it

MikeLucky
03-07-2008, 08:00 AM
I don't buy them, I just like to read comics, the library doesn't have comics that I want to read so I go to Barnes and Noble for it

So the drive to Norman is just too inconvenient for you to mooch off of the bookstore...... Gee I can't figure out why there aren't more bookstores...... Maybe if you actually paid for the books rather than abuse the system, they would make enough money to put up more bookstores and there would be one where you live.....

SoonerDave
03-07-2008, 01:37 PM
I don't mind buying from Barnes and Noble. I realize I'm paying a premium, but that's part of the environment.

My understandig was that a Barnes and Noble was, in fact, slated for SW OKC around 104th and May approximately a year ago when a Super WalMart was planned for that corner. WalMart long since backed out of that deal, and I presume the B&N did right along with it.

I STILL want a B&N in SW OKC!!!

DVDFreaker
03-07-2008, 02:05 PM
So the drive to Norman is just too inconvenient for you to mooch off of the bookstore...... Gee I can't figure out why there aren't more bookstores...... Maybe if you actually paid for the books rather than abuse the system, they would make enough money to put up more bookstores and there would be one where you live.....

Okay, whatever

Jesseda
03-10-2008, 07:43 AM
Sephora is opening march 21 at 8 am inside j.c penneys.... I like this place, it is a bit pricey but great products

soonerkev
03-10-2008, 08:43 AM
I encourage everyone to go to the City of Moore's website and fill out the citizen survey. This is great way to voice our opinion on the traffic problems that we are encountering along the 19th street area.

Oh GAWD the Smell!
03-10-2008, 08:58 AM
Good idea!

Martin
03-13-2008, 01:48 PM
i've just heard that the old harrigan's near i-240 & penn is in the process of being razed... perhaps there are some plans in the works for that outparcel?

-M

Jesseda
03-13-2008, 01:55 PM
someone said old chicagos pizza is going in where harrigans used to be

Martin
03-13-2008, 01:58 PM
nope... old chicago has already started renovating the former pearl's location in that same general area. -M