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PUGalicious
06-11-2007, 06:30 AM
As if the overhyped weather warnings by local weather personalities weren't bad enough, someone is issuing bogus weather warnings...
FBI joins search for fake warning source (http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=617464)

By AMY GUCKEEN
aguckeen@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 10, 2007

The FBI has joined the effort to find whoever has been sending false reports of severe weather to the National Weather Service.

The service began getting the reports in mid-April through an online form on its Web site. The areas affected by the reports have included Milwaukee, La Crosse, Chicago, and Lincoln, Ill., said Tom Schwein, chief of the National Weather Service's systems and facilities division for the central region in Kansas City, Mo.

"We've been detecting a regular pattern of a person who has been submitting false severe weather reports that are constructed in a way that seem very realistic," Schwein said. "Whoever this person is seems to have knowledge of severe weather reports. When they send in reports, they seem very plausible."

Schwein likened the reports to calling in a false bomb threat or pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire.

"People had to take cover, media interrupted their broadcasting for hours - we've alerted people unnecessarily and frightened them. This person has really misled us," Schwein said.

Over 25 false reports were submitted from the same computer over one weekend earlier this month, and the service typically gets 40 to 50 a month from that source, said Schwein. It does not appear that any bogus reports were sent from the computer last Thursday, during the latest severe weather events, according to Pat Slattery of the Weather Service.

"This has happened sporadically around the country," said Schwein. "But anytime there is a weather pattern, we see this person reporting in. That's what's so unusual."

The public can use a form on weather service local Web sites to anonymously report weather conditions in their areas. Since the onset of the false reports, the agency has added a notice in red at the top of the form that submitting false statements is a federal crime. The listed offense carries a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Schwein said investigators have traced the Internet protocol address of the computer sending the false reports, and any new reports from that address are being flagged. The FBI is working with the weather service to subpoena records about who is registered for the computer IP address, he said.

jbrown84
06-11-2007, 08:12 AM
So they declare severe weather warnings without any double-checking???

PUGalicious
06-11-2007, 08:14 AM
That's kind of what I was wondering... I guess we're so used to them getting the weather wrong here, we've learned to do our own double-checking...

Karried
06-11-2007, 08:22 AM
Wow, some people just have TOO much time on their hands!

allseeingeye
06-11-2007, 08:49 AM
Ummm, dont' they have radar???? If someone reported severe weather but radar did not detect anything, and this was the only report for severe weather in that area, why the hell would they issue a warning??? I think the national weather service needs to look at themselves and how they issue warnings.

Dark Jedi
06-11-2007, 10:32 AM
Ummm, dont' they have radar???? If someone reported severe weather but radar did not detect anything, and this was the only report for severe weather in that area, why the hell would they issue a warning??? I think the national weather service needs to look at themselves and how they issue warnings.

The problem is, if they don;t report a tornado, flood, lightning storm, whatever, and there is one, then they catch hell from the people affected by it for not giving warning.

They need the citizen input, but they need to verify sources. Maybe a threshold, like 2 or 3 independent reports of a funnel means they give a watch for the area, or a warning for the location.
They can still act on their trusted sources, like the registered storm chasers.

Midtowner
06-11-2007, 12:44 PM
It's probably those folks who want to do away with the National Weather Service in favor of corporate would-be monopolies doing this to embarrass the NWS.

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