And what about those of us who don't enjoy basketball? I would love to see a football team here besides the college teams. I think it would be great for Oklahoma City!

I am just saying that we should take pro sports one step at a time. Let's first concentrate our efforts as a city on the NBA, because that seems to be the most likely. If the NBA comes through or if it doesn't the the city should go all in to get a minor league football team.

I am all for Okc and getting pro sports into our market, but the city should stay focused on one at a time.

But why? What does the city have to do with the Sonics or the Hornets decision making? NOTHING! That is up to the owners of those organizations and while having the Hornets here for the past couple of years was great for OKC economy, they had to return home eventually. The Sonics are waffling between staying in Seattle or coming to Oklahoma City not because of anything that OKC can do but because they have prior committment to the city of Seattle.

Why focus on just the NBA for now when you have another potential money making opportunity waiting in the wings? Why not pursue them both? Why limit the opportunities & put all the eggs in one basket?

What gave it away that it was the CHL list and not the AF2 list? Was it Rio Rancho, NM or Southhaven, MS? Oh wait, I know. It was Rio Grande Valley, TX. If by arrogant you mean wishing that OKC could play more proment cities then I can probably get very arrogant. No one is talking about taking the CHL away from you, just providing more/better options for the other people that live in OKC.

The city has EVERYTHING!!! to do with the decision making. Such as money for arenas, practice facitlities, offices, security, infrastructure, etc. Without approval from Okc there will be no team in Okc. Just as Okc rejected a basketball team from the USBA just a few months ago. Right now Okc is focused on letting the NBA Sonics situation play out. Once it does , in just a few more months we will know how it will play out, then the city can look at other options.

Like I said I am all for pro sports in Okc, but Okc will not pursue anything else until the NBA makes a decision. We will know the fate of the Sonics in a few more months, have patience.

While you wait, I'll go make my reservations for tickets.

Will the UFL last? Probably not, but as far as football goes, why not?

I have always thought that the NFL could work here outside of the issues of expasion and proximity to Dallas, Denver, and Kansas City. If you give sports fans an option though, they would go to a few UFL games. I would.

If you really think the Sports Animal would talk about it in depth though, you obviously don't listen to it.

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I really don't understand that argument that we shouldn't have a team just because of Dallas, Denver, and Kansas City. Many teams are in close proximity to one another. A team in OKC could draw enough fans considering the proximity of Tulsa alone. Other cities in the area would be drawn to our team as well. I think a poster was right about a year ago when saying that we wont have the NFL because we have OU.

I actually agree with you with the Dallas/Denver/KC opinion, I was just throwing opinions and such people in general would say. Unfortunately, I only came up with those two. I am sure there are other issuses/opinions on it.

As far as the OU argument, I believe that to be a big lame flaming load of poo of an opinion. Being from Detroit, there are plenty of fans and coverage in the media for both NFL and University of Michigan football, as Ann Arbor is not that much farther from the Detroit Metro as Norman is from OKC. That is only my opinion though.

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With Mark Cuban and Boone Pickens involved this could become something...

Austin, Texas Current Arena Football League
Birmingham, Alabama member of now defunct World Football/World Hockey Leagues
Columbus, Ohio Current NHL Bluejackets/MLS Crew
Las Vegas, Nevada member of now defunct XFL
Los Angeles, California Numerous NFL teams
Louisville, Kentucky member of now defunct American Basketball Association
Memphis, Tennessee Current member NBA Grizzlies
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Hosted Hornets for two years post Katrina
Orlando, Florida Currrent member NBA Magic
Sacramento, California Current member NBA Kings
San Antonio, Texas Current member NBA Spurs
Raleigh or Durham, North Carolina Current member NHL Hurricanes

These could be some pretty interesting markets with a team in New York/New Jersey, Dallas' Cotton Bowl or Fort Worth's TCU Carter Stadium and possibly a franchise in Little Rock, Arkansas.

I'm still clueless as to where an OKC team would play.

Bump, anyone heard anything about this?

This is still "vaporware" as far as I know.

But it would be interesting to see an NFL-associated minor league. I don't think OKC is ready to support both the Sooners and an NFL team and an NBA team[b] (not to mention AAA baseball and AA hockey) -- but I think AAA football could work nicely. Especially if it were a place where you could watch your favorite college football players take it to the next level. The attendance would probably be surprisingly good, assuming the stadium is located in a logical place. Personally I'd like to see it put out on the west side of OKC near the Kilpatrick Turnpike & I-40, just because the traffic would be a lot more manageable.

I could care less about the football issue at hand....but just want to make a comment about the CHL list of cities.

While they aren't 'premier' towns, most of those listed are misleading. Let's not mistake suburbs for small towns.


Bossier City - SHREVEPORT
Southaven MS - MEMPHIS
North Richland Hills TX - FORT WORTH
Youngstown OH
Loveland CO - DENVER SUBURB
Broomfield CO - DENVER SUBURB
Oklahoma City OK
Tulsa OK
Wichita KS
Austin TX
Corpus Christi TX
Laredo TX
Rio Grande Valley TX
Amarillo TX
Prescott Valley AZ
Rio Rancho NM - ALBUQUERQUE
Odessa TX

As for Prescott Valley, I spent some time in Prescott in December and thought it was a fantastic community with great fan support (5,000 average) for their hockey team. Better than some AHL squads. And I've seen AAA hockey in a lot of towns.

Nixon 7: :I'm still clueless as to where an OKC team would play."


If the organization is big enough, they could petition to use Gaylord Family Memorial Stadium. There may not be as much opposition as we had when the Oklahoma Outlaws (USFL) we petitioning to use Owen Memorial Stadium back then.

If not, there are plans to use Bricktown Ballpark year round for high school/college football games and possibly MLS soccer and expanding the ballpark to seat 22,000 to 25,000; that we allow us to bid on the men's college world series when it comes up.

Some of the high school games would include the state playoffs and some key HS games moved to the site; college--Langston vs. Grambling/Southern or Prarie View could be played there.

I'm not a fan of the idea of using the Brick for anything other than baseball.

The design, the decor, the "feel" of it is baseball.

I think that's why they haven't acted on this idea. The ballpark is fan-friendly for baseball, it might lose something should they attempt to configurate it for football.

I would just build another stadium next to the Bricktown Ballpark specific for football/soccer similar to the 40,000-seat stadiums built in Las Vegas and Hartford.

Las Vegas' Sam Boyd Stadium

Sam Boyd Stadium

Hartford's Rentshlder Field Stadium:

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