Originally Posted by hoyasooner

I think he's saying that power lines can make a city look organic, like it developed naturally and wasn't built by Disney. It's messy and ugly and real. Like a homeless guy sleeping on a park bench.

I think that's what he's saying as well as that's what most people mean when they like overhead power lines.

Originally Posted by hoyasooner

I think he's saying that power lines can make a city look organic, like it developed naturally and wasn't built by Disney. It's messy and ugly and real. Like a homeless guy sleeping on a park bench.

I like the Disney look.

No JTF, I like the grit they add.

People pay $90 a day per person to 'people watch' and enjoy the walkable 'streets' in Epcot because it is such a unique experience in America. While I don't have actual figures, it is my personal experience that the percentage of visitors to Epcot who are American is much higher than they are for the other Disney parks. The thing with Epcot though is that its most unique features can be built anywhere and it doesn't even need to be an amusement park with paid admission.

Now back to power lines and the Holiday Inn. I am not a fan of power lines in zone T3 or above, but they do define space when there is nothing else around to do it. However, I do find the single catenary wire of streetcars both appealing and useful (and I mean beyond just supplying power to the motor).

Originally Posted by Just the facts

People pay $90 a day per person to 'people watch' and enjoy the walkable 'streets' in Epcot because it is such a unique experience in America. While I don't have actual figures, it is my personal experience that the percentage of visitors to Epcot who are American is much higher than they are for the other Disney parks. The thing with Epcot though is that its most unique features can be built anywhere and it doesn't even need to be an amusement park with paid admission.

Now back to power lines and the Holiday Inn. I am not a fan of power lines in zone T3 or above, but they do define space when there is nothing else around to do it. However, I do find the single catenary wire of streetcars both appealing and useful (and I mean beyond just supplying power to the motor).

people don't pay 90 bucks a day to people watch at epcot ..

Originally Posted by Just the facts

However, I do find the single catenary wire of streetcars both appealing and useful (and I mean beyond just supplying power to the motor).

Oh lord - don't let some people in OKC hear that. Evidently there are some people complaining about the catenary and are insisting on a wireless system regardless of any additional cost. I agree with you and actually prefer our system is "wired" but put forth the effort to have the catenary supports designed well.

Originally Posted by hoyasooner

I think he's saying that power lines can make a city look organic, like it developed naturally and wasn't built by Disney. It's messy and ugly and real. Like a homeless guy sleeping on a park bench.

So, our ambition is that we should have more homeless people and go back to 1920 technology? That would prove we are finally a city?

Just saying a little clutter is okay. Otherwise you end up living here:



"OKC is a perrr-feeeect plaaaace!"

Update on this? When does construction start?

They are still doing site work as of yesterday when I drove by. Technically construction has started.

Originally Posted by catch22

They are still doing site work as of yesterday when I drove by. Technically construction has started.

Yes, it's been an active site, despite the rain last week. Over the past week, they lined the "pit" with aggregate and have been trucking in red dirt and rolling it in layers. Looks like they are laying down the pre-foundation.

Also, the power lines (will be) coming down on the north side of Main Street, so the renderings without the overhead lines are pseudo-correct.