IKEA

[sgt. pepper]

That would be AWESOME!! but I am sorry, I will believe it when I see it. I just can not see them choosing OKC over Tulsa.

[Colbafone]

Alright, so there's enough here for you to post this, but how likely is this? We talking a 90% chance for this to go down? Because this is absolutely awesome. This is huge news.

[jn1780]

If a full-sized store came to Chisolm Creek, that would take up a big chuck of real estate. I wonder if the dine-in theater or soccer stadium are still in talks or if these died on vein?

[Pete]

That would be AWESOME!! but I am sorry, I will believe it when I see it. I just can not see them choosing OKC over Tulsa.

Don't believe they are even looking in Tulsa right now.

[erasmusred]

Pete, I really really really hope this happens; however since it was five years from the first word on a possible Costco to a building permit I'm assuming we should temper our expectations?

[jn1780]

That would be AWESOME!! but I am sorry, I will believe it when I see it. I just can not see them choosing OKC over Tulsa.

It's too close to the Kansas and Missouri store. I'm kind of surprised to here they are considering OKC based on what the requirements they were looking for a few years back.

[Pete]

^

Costco was different.

They had a letter of intent then backed out, then opened Tulsa, waited to see how that would do, then came back to OKC.

These deals always take time and are never done until they are done (and even then, things can happen) but if this was to move forward it would likely be in the next year or so.

[jccouger]

I'm more excited to see how many reactions Pete's facebook post gets than I actually am for us to get an IKEA.

https://www.facebook.com/OKCTalk/posts/1943828929042050

Never been to an IKEA but all the furniture I've ever seen from there seems super cheap and brittle.

[Plutonic Panda]

If a full-sized store came to Chisolm Creek, that would take up a big chuck of real estate. I wonder if the dine-in theater or soccer stadium are still in talks or if these died on vein?

If that happens I won’t know what to think. IKEA would be a good addition for OKC but the most exciting part of Chisholm creek element of having a true mixed lifestyle center will be gone. Oh well, I suppose another one could be built elsewhere along this corridor in addition to the ones that are already planned.

[jonny d]

That would be AWESOME!! but I am sorry, I will believe it when I see it. I just can not see them choosing OKC over Tulsa.

This makes no sense at all. OKC has more people, and is growing faster than Tulsa.

[jedicurt]

This makes no sense at all. OKC has more people, and is growing faster than Tulsa.

OKC also has a much larger pull for an Ikea, as it will pull people as far away as Amarillo and all of northwest Oklahoma and even part of far southwest Kansas. most of the rural areas that Tulsa could pull already just go to the Kansas City store

[Pete]

IKEA does a huge business with college students. OKC is very centrally located for OU, OSU, UCO... By far the 3 biggest universities in the state.

People from Tulsa would merely drive down.

[shawnw]

If that happens I won’t know what to think. IKEA would be a good addition for OKC but the most exciting part of Chisholm creek element of having a true mixed lifestyle center will be gone. Oh well, I suppose another one could be built elsewhere along this corridor in addition to the ones that are already planned.

I suspect being a true lifestyle center was always back-burner anyway and they'll be happy to be rid of it. Obvs I'm speculating, but I feel like there are things you do up front (e.g. sidewalks/walkability) if you're serious about lifestyle, and I just never felt like they were.

[Jake]

I have a lot of family in Tulsa that would gladly drive down for an IKEA.

[sgt. pepper]

This makes no sense at all. OKC has more people, and is growing faster than Tulsa.

Tell that to REI...Costco....Traders Joes....Hard Rock....OKC got the Container Store! Tulsa lands good stuff, and so do we.

[jedicurt]

Tell that to REI...Costco....Traders Joes....Hard Rock....OKC got the Container Store! Tulsa lands good stuff, and so do we.

completely different types of stores that look at completely different factors when determining locations

[jonny d]

Tell that to REI...Costco....Traders Joes....Hard Rock....OKC got the Container Store! Tulsa lands good stuff, and so do we.

Can't consider Hard Rock, as none of OKC is tribal trust land, so no casinos are present here. Tulsa has a ton of it. But OKC is quickly turning the tide on where stores go first.

[sgt. pepper]

It's too close to the Kansas and Missouri store. I'm kind of surprised to here they are considering OKC based on what the requirements they were looking for a few years back.

Actually Dallas is closer to OKC then those stores are to Tulsa, but there are two store up that way so your point makes sense.

[sgt. pepper]

Can't consider Hard Rock, as none of OKC is tribal trust land, so no casinos are present here. Tulsa has a ton of it. But OKC is quickly turning the tide on where stores go first.

I agree

[PhiAlpha]

Tell that to REI...Costco....Traders Joes....Hard Rock....OKC got the Container Store! Tulsa lands good stuff, and so do we.

OKC is also at a much more prominent location then Tulsa with convergence of three major interstates which would seem to make it much more desirable to a destination retailer like ikea. None of the stores you mention are major draws to people from out of state except maybe hard rock but the only reason Tulsa got that was because it’s a casino and they can build them anywhere in or around Tulsa which isn’t an option here.

[Pete]

Tell that to REI...Costco....Traders Joes....Hard Rock....OKC got the Container Store! Tulsa lands good stuff, and so do we.

The myth that Tulsa gets more good retail before OKC is something that needs to completely die:

http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=37659

[baralheia]

I'm more excited to see how many reactions Pete's facebook post gets than I actually am for us to get an IKEA.

https://www.facebook.com/OKCTalk/posts/1943828929042050

Never been to an IKEA but all the furniture I've ever seen from there seems super cheap and brittle.

It seems that way, but a lot of their stuff is really well designed. I have an IKEA Malm platform bed frame and dresser that I bought about 6-7 years ago, and though I have had some minor issues with them, they've been solid and I have enjoyed the bed greatly. The few issues I've had were easy to correct. Their bookcases are really cool because they take into account things like trim; their bookcases are notched at the bottom so they will sit flat against the wall and clear any baseboard trim. I've been super impressed with the IKEA stuff I have.

[bchris02]

That would be AWESOME!! but I am sorry, I will believe it when I see it. I just can not see them choosing OKC over Tulsa.

I think the days of Tulsa getting everything first in the state are coming to an end. OKC has really caught up in recent years. Tulsa World actually did an article not long ago that addressed this topic.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/photovide...bb00ad7b8.html

As for IKEA, as much as I would like to see one in OKC I really hope it doesn't replace the lifestyle portion of Chisholm Creek.

[sgt. pepper]

I think the days of Tulsa getting everything first in the state are coming to an end. OKC has really caught up in recent years. Tulsa World actually did an article not long ago that addressed this topic.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/photovide...bb00ad7b8.html

As for IKEA, as much as I would like to see one in OKC I really hope it doesn't replace the lifestyle portion of Chisholm Creek.

I agree, maybe it won't actually be located inside Chisholm Creek

[Pete]

I think the days of Tulsa getting everything first in the state are coming to an end. OKC has really caught up in recent years. Tulsa World actually did an article not long ago that addressed this topic.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/photovide...bb00ad7b8.html

Or, you could just read the OKCTalk article that tracts this in detail rather than some superficial little story with 1/10th the info where almost no time or effort was expended.