Total Wine and More

[coatesindc]

I don't think the liquor issue will prevent Total Wine from having more than 2 locations in the state. There are many Total Wine locations in Virginia and none of them sell liquor as it is exclusively sold in state-run ABC stores.

[Pete]

I wonder if they'll do that work-around where they have an adjacent but separate liquor store.

This was the plan for Costco but they never followed through.

[bille]

I don't think the liquor issue will prevent Total Wine from having more than 2 locations in the state. There are many Total Wine locations in Virginia and none of them sell liquor as it is exclusively sold in state-run ABC stores.

If they don't sell spirits they would not be limited to two locations or have the residency restrictions either. In essence a wine/beer specialty store could come in and have favorable hours, multiple locations, etc. with virtually none of the limitations that a spirit-based liquor store has. It's a niche business but one I keyed in the opportunities back before the law was ever updated. Perhaps the numbers don't (or didn't) make sense for anybody to bother with the concept.

[Pete]

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They are so focused on wine that I could see them just leaving out spirits, because they also have a huge beer and seltzer selection.

It's totally different than BevMo, which is much more about liquor.

[Thunderbolt]

I hope they don't leave out spirits. Total Wine's whisky selection is top notch in other states.

[April in the Plaza]

Hopefully we’re not changing any liquor laws on Trone’s account.

[bille]

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They are so focused on wine that I could see them just leaving out spirits, because they also have a huge beer and seltzer selection.

It's totally different than BevMo, which is much more about liquor.

They very well could be going that route with intention of adding spirits later on....or like mentioned, building the store and then suing to get the law updated to allow for them to carry spirits.

I do love supporting my favorite local retail stores here in Norman and OKC but I also love Spec's, especially their newer stores. Those places take "liquor store" to an entirely different level.

[Mballard85]

I'd expect this store to get opened up as a normal Total Wine and then they start the process of litigation to change the laws.

[jedicurt]

I'd expect this store to get opened up as a normal Total Wine and then they start the process of litigation to change the laws.

this is my thoughts as well... it seems to be what they have done in several other states

[corwin1968]

I was looking on the Wichita location's website and it has this disclaimer

[jedicurt]

I was looking on the Wichita location's website and it has this disclaimer

yep. the oklahoma one will be done this way as well. and then they will use that to try and push to challenge the laws