Notes Live

[formerly405Tulsan]

CEO says they jumped the gun on announcing the location, but this would be a hell of a spot. In my opinion, it would be hard to find something better for that lot.

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https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/bu...280c137d7.html

[formerly405Tulsan]

Yes, I know discussion is happening in other thread. But this proposal deserves its own topic in the tulsa sub-forum.

[shavethewhales]

The visuals are awesome in that location, but everything else kind of sucks. It's in the middle of a bunch of housing and road access isn't the best. They could make it work, but they'll have to combine with the concrete plant and add either a parking garage or something. It's a city park, so there would have to be a somewhat complex public/private partnership to work out. Not sure where else in Tulsa would make sense, but maybe out in the burbs. I'm sure they are looking at Jenks since Jenks is currently the epicenter of available space that is close to patrons.

Still think there are a lot of issues in general about these amphitheaters and how they seem to be designed around people willing to shell out for this and that. It's basically all about upcharges and they aren't even hiding it anymore.

[PhiAlpha]

The visuals are awesome in that location, but everything else kind of sucks. It's in the middle of a bunch of housing and road access isn't the best. They could make it work, but they'll have to combine with the concrete plant and add either a parking garage or something. It's a city park, so there would have to be a somewhat complex public/private partnership to work out. Not sure where else in Tulsa would make sense, but maybe out in the burbs. I'm sure they are looking at Jenks since Jenks is currently the epicenter of available space that is close to patrons.

Still think there are a lot of issues in general about these amphitheaters and how they seem to be designed around people willing to shell out for this and that. It's basically all about upcharges and they aren't even hiding it anymore.

From the TW article…Notes Live is considering purchasing the concrete plant (which they’ve been preparing for redevelopment over the last few years) for the amphitheater…they are not putting it in River Parks West.

[BG918]

From the TW article…Notes Live is considering purchasing the concrete plant (which they’ve been preparing for redevelopment over the last few years) for the amphitheater…they are not putting it in River Parks West.

Very interesting - that would be great if they can pull it off. I know River Parks has expressed an interest in purchasing the Mid-Con plant - maybe they are partnering to expand the Festival Park and have the amphitheater part of that expansion.

"This is a critically important piece for Tulsa to have it developed to its highest and best use," Keith said.

Meyer acknowledged that River Parks has no plan in place to purchase the property, but it definitely has an interest in making it part of the park system.

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Davis, meanwhile, laid out a vision for the property that could include not only more park space and parking spaces, but perhaps a giant Ferris wheel, or a hotel and restaurant - or all three.

"From that vantage point you have the most beautiful, incredible view of the city." Davis said. "Downstream, you see the beautiful Gathering Place.... I just don't want to see Tulsa lose this property to somebody out of state, and we are not able to get what River Parks needs."

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/ri...09ce6ec82.html

[shavethewhales]

I'm not willing to pay for the Tulsa World article, but it certainly is a prime piece of real estate and the whole city knows it. Good to hear that this is theoretically proposed for the concrete plant site and not the park. The two could certainly be incorporated somehow for major events such as Oktoberfest. The area has been part of careful master plans for years now, and the housing authority is just now finishing up a complete re-build of the housing projects on that side of 23rd. The dichotomy between the proposal for amenities to be enjoyed by the wealthy right next to the projects is interesting. Good thing we/the feds invested in rebuilding them at least.

Who is this Davis mentioned in the article snippet?

[Plutonic Panda]

This is the entire article:

The Mid Continent Concrete plant, which sits directly south of River West Festival Park on the west bank of the Arkansas River, will soon be up for sale, and officials are again talking about making it part of the River Parks system.

The Mid-Continent Concrete plant on the west side of the Arkansas River will soon be up for sale, and that’s got Sharon King Davis on a mission.

The longtime Tulsa businesswoman believes the 26.7-acre property, which sits just south of River West Festival Park, would make a great addition to the River Parks trails and recreation area. River West Festival Park is part of River Parks.

It’s not a novel idea: As far back as the early 2000s, regional planning documents envisioned an expanded festival park that extended south all the way to the 21st Street bridge — land now occupied by the concrete plant.

Only then, the property wasn’t for sale. That’s about to change, and Davis doesn’t want the city to miss out on an opportunity to purchase the land.

“River Parks is something that came out of the hearts of Tulsans, and I just think we need to complete that,” Davis told her colleagues on the River Parks Authority board Thursday. “So that is what I am working on, and I need everybody’s help.”

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River Parks Authority Executive Director Matt Meyer said he and Davis have met with Mayor G.T. Bynum and Tulsa County Commissioner Karen Keith to see whether either government entity could provide funding.

“Nobody has made any commitments or has any funding to do it,” Meyer said after the meeting. “It could be a public-private partnership if we come up with some partners.”

Joe Westervelt, president of Mapleview Associates, is representing the owner of the property, GCC Mid-Continent Concrete of Glendale, Colorado.

“It will be on the market soon,” Westervelt said. “We are in the process of finishing up the last of our entitlements (pre-sale work) on the property, and when we are completed with that, we will go ahead and get it on the marketplace.”

Westervelt said that process has included working closely with city, county and River Parks officials, each of whom has been a great help. He said he was especially grateful for the work of City Engineer Paul Zachary and Keith.

“I hope they can make something happen,” he said. “... When this community puts its mind to it, it has a way of getting things done that it wants to get done.”

Keith said Tulsans have for decades understood the importance of the property.

“This is a critically important piece for Tulsa to have it developed to its highest and best use,” Keith said

Meyer acknowledged that River Parks has no plan in place to purchase the property, but it definitely has an interest in making it part of the park system.

“Today there are exactly zero dollars to buy it,” Meyer said. “Is River Parks interested in it? Yes.”

He noted that when the nearby River West development was constructed, River West Festival Park lost 1,200 parking spaces for Oktoberfest and other large events. Extending the festival park south would help address that issue.

“We can expand the festival park, and it would be a combination of more park land and parking,” Meyer said. “It wouldn’t have to be paved parking; it could be structured parking or that sort of thing.”

Davis, meanwhile, laid out a vision for the property that could include not only more park space and parking spaces, but perhaps a giant Ferris wheel, or a hotel and restaurant — or all three.

“From that vantage point you have the most beautiful, incredible view of the city,” Davis said. “Downstream, you see the beautiful Gathering Place. … I just don’t want to see Tulsa lose this property to somebody out of state, and we are not able to get what River Parks needs.”

[Swake]

Sharon King Davis. She owns Kingspointe Village on Yale and Kings Landing on Riverside. She's part of the Davis family that owned F&M Bank, now Prosperity Bank. She's also a longtime Democratic Party activist. The Davis family is also related to the Lorton family that owned the Tulsa World for so long.