New Tulsa Interstate (US-412)

[BoulderSooner]

There’s also a spur north of Tonitown it can and likely will tie into. ArDOT already has plans to redo that interchange at I-49. I’d be willing to bet they find a way to expedite this project.

the spur that is north of tonitown (612 ) the next phase (before the east side project that you linked) is on the west side from existing 412 up to the 612 spur ..

https://www.ardot.gov/wp-content/upl...H_Disp_Cou.pdf

https://www.ardot.gov/divisions/envi...s-highway-412/

[Plutonic Panda]

the spur that is north of tonitown (612 ) the next phase (before the east side project that you linked) is on the west side from existing 412 up to the 612 spur ..

https://www.ardot.gov/wp-content/upl...H_Disp_Cou.pdf

https://www.ardot.gov/divisions/envi...s-highway-412/

Correct I mentioned it because it appears ArDOT has plans to expand that facility even further east at some point.

[BoulderSooner]

Correct I mentioned it because it appears ArDOT has plans to expand that facility even further east at some point.

612 by pass is going to reconnect with 412 right before the lake

[Plutonic Panda]

612 by pass is going to reconnect with 412 right before the lake

Correct which is why I think it’ll tie in with a Siloam Springs Bypass. There’s the airport XNA connector project as well in the area.

[BoulderSooner]

Correct which is why I think it’ll tie in with a Siloam Springs Bypass. There’s the airport XNA connector project as well in the area.

i don't think so I think you can expect the main line the new interstate going west from 49 to be 612 until in connects with 412 (around highway 68 and 412 ) then 412 be full interstate for 10 miles or so until it connects to the future siloam bypass some where east of siloam springs ..

[Plutonic Panda]

i don't think so I think you can expect the main line the new interstate going west from 49 to be 612 until in connects with 412 (around highway 68 and 412 ) then 412 be full interstate for 10 miles or so until it connects to the future siloam bypass some where east of siloam springs ..

Here’s a new article which sheds some light and gives somewhat of a timeline: https://www.4029tv.com/article/bids-...pass/45727996#

[Plutonic Panda]

Plans for the Springdale bypass

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[BoulderSooner]

Plans for the Springdale bypass

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and all but the eastern 6 miles or so of this is fully funded and the bids are either already approved or out for bid

[Plutonic Panda]

and all but the eastern 6 miles or so of this is fully funded and the bids are either already approved or out for bid

Good note but I believe they own the ROW.

I believe ODOT will build it as a free to use freeway and not an extension of the existing turnpike(on the the OK side obviously) but I’m not sure.

[Snowman]

It seems a little odd they are shifting this south to the existing 412 near Tontitown, given a few miles west of this they are going to need to then go around Siloam Springs, when it would be basically a strait line west from the existing part built to go past Siloam Springs. Plus anything this saves in new highway miles added, probably gets offset in complications during construction, as the road will likely be kept open while doing upgraded between those two cities.

[BoulderSooner]

It seems a little odd they are shifting this south to the existing 412 near Tontitown, given a few miles west of this they are going to need to then go around Siloam Springs, when it would be basically a strait line west from the existing part built to go past Siloam Springs. Plus anything this saves in new highway miles added, probably gets offset in complications during construction, as the road will likely be kept open while doing upgraded between those two cities.

it is 10 full miles that is a lot of ROW to acquire for one reason

and it is really not that much out of the way

[Snowman]

it is 10 full miles that is a lot of ROW to acquire for one reason

and it is really not that much out of the way

They are acquiring around half of that with the shift down and around, and land they acquire around the existing 412 is probably worth more than farmland north of it.

[BoulderSooner]

They are acquiring around half of that with the shift down and around, and land they acquire around the existing 412 is probably worth more than farmland north of it.

going south back to 412 costs them about a mile +/- of "extra" ROW "

also that part of the project is actually funded and is starting .. (and is needed now)