April Fool? In-N-Out Coming Soon

[u50254082]

I'd rather have El Pollo Loco before In N Out.

[jerrywall]

Not a Casa Bonita?

[u50254082]

I feel like we don't have any fast food places that serve Rotisserie chicken? (excluding chicken restaurants)

Pollo Loco has great chicken along with the texmex sides that folks in our region seem to love so dearly. I think there is a Pollo Loco in Denton, so it's the same distribution situation as In N Out.

[Jersey Boss]

The distribution could be different situation as El Pollo franchises restaurants, I&O, White Castle and Krystals are corporate owned.

[jerrywall]

I feel like we don't have any fast food places that serve Rotisserie chicken? (excluding chicken restaurants)

Pollo Loco has great chicken along with the texmex sides that folks in our region seem to love so dearly. I think there is a Pollo Loco in Denton, so it's the same distribution situation as In N Out.

Cowboy Chicken for rotisserie.

[Jersey Boss]

I feel like we don't have any fast food places that serve Rotisserie chicken? (excluding chicken restaurants)

Pollo Loco has great chicken along with the texmex sides that folks in our region seem to love so dearly. I think there is a Pollo Loco in Denton, so it's the same distribution situation as In N Out.

Curious as to why one would seek fast food rotisserie chicken in a non chicken place?

[bchris02]

I feel like we don't have any fast food places that serve Rotisserie chicken? (excluding chicken restaurants)

Pollo Loco has great chicken along with the texmex sides that folks in our region seem to love so dearly. I think there is a Pollo Loco in Denton, so it's the same distribution situation as In N Out.

I've really missed Boston Market since I moved back to OKC. They also have them in the DFW area but for whatever reason they won't expand here.

[jerrywall]

I've really missed Boston Market since I moved back to OKC. They also have them in the DFW area but for whatever reason they won't expand here.

They were here once soon a time. I'm not sure what changed or what market conditions led them to leave.

On a totally side note, my wife got me an instant pot cooker for Christmas. We cook a whole chicken every week on Sunday and use it all week long for meals. Takes 30 minutes and no prep, and is the cheapest animal protein I've found. Highly reccomend.

[TheTravellers]

I've really missed Boston Market since I moved back to OKC. They also have them in the DFW area but for whatever reason they won't expand here.

Wish we could just find their jarred gravy here in a store somewhere, at the very least, it's about the best non-homemade gravy out there.

[ctchandler]

I've really missed Boston Market since I moved back to OKC. They also have them in the DFW area but for whatever reason they won't expand here.

Bchris02,
I realize it's all subjective, but we were totally underwhelmed when we ate there in New England. I would never go back. To us, it was the McDonald's of chicken. But like I said, it's subjective and one man's trash is another man's treasure. Glad you enjoy it.
C. T.

[Plutonic Panda]

Bchris02,
I realize it's all subjective, but we were totally underwhelmed when we ate there in New England. I would never go back. To us, it was the McDonald's of chicken. But like I said, it's subjective and one man's trash is another man's treasure. Glad you enjoy it.
C. T.

+1 Great response and I agree. Very interesting stuff.

[HOT ROD]

OKC used to have Boston Market, White Castle, and a few others but for whatever reason they decided to leave the market. I recall going to BM in the mid-1990s when I'd visit as Seattle didn't have. Seattle did eventually get BM but they closed here in the 2000s - just not sure what they're looking for in a market.

I so do miss their meals.

I also agree about EPL; we've never had in Seattle but on visits to Cali it'd be a stop I'd look forward to moreso than In N Out. Portland had EPL for a while so they were more convenient until early-2010s. Again, Im not sure how this all works; it seems Seattle never gets anything anyway but if/when they do come here restaurants tend to do well and put locals out of business (see Chick-Fil-A arrival in 2016, Sonic (Tacoma, up from Portland) in early 2010s, and Long John Silver's (to a lesser extent) in the mid-2010s.

[Jersey Boss]

OKC used to have , White Castle

Unless you are late for April Fools, this is a falsehood that has been disproven on this forum repeatedly. White Castle does not franchise and all stores are corporate owned and are clustered where they do locate.

[RustytheBailiff]

White Castle does not franchise and all stores are corporate owned and are clustered where they do locate.

Yes, White Castle doesn't franchise, unless, of course, they do....

What qualifications does White Castle seek
in its potential partner?
• A proven track record of developing multi-unit restaurant systems
• Very well capitalized
• A minimum of 10 years experience in casual or
fast casual dining as an owner/operator
• Have local knowledge and expertise in the areas
of consumer preferences, real estate, government
regulations, labor, and distribution.
What is the next step?
Please submit a Request for Consideration via email and our Real Estate
and Business Development Team will contact you about the opportunity.

See here for franchising opportunities: http://static-whitecastle-com.s3.ama...s_PrintRes.pdf

[Urbanized]

Where was Boston Market? I remember in the nineties we we're barraged by ads for them for several years and it looked great, and I repeatedly tried to find one here but was always told there wasn't one. Never made sense why they advertised so much and was really frustrating.

Finally on a trip to South Carolina circa '99 or 2000 I ran across one in Greenville and tried it. Went in a couple of times over the few days I was there and definitely liked it enough to wish it was in OKC but not so much that it was life-changing.

[Jersey Boss]

Yes, White Castle doesn't franchise, unless, of course, they do....

What qualifications does White Castle seek
in its potential partner?
• A proven track record of developing multi-unit restaurant systems
• Very well capitalized
• A minimum of 10 years experience in casual or
fast casual dining as an owner/operator
• Have local knowledge and expertise in the areas
of consumer preferences, real estate, government
regulations, labor, and distribution.
What is the next step?
Please submit a Request for Consideration via email and our Real Estate
and Business Development Team will contact you about the opportunity.

See here for franchising opportunities: http://static-whitecastle-com.s3.ama...s_PrintRes.pdf

In this country, you may become a licensee, such as the one in Las Vegas. As you can see in the link they have certain location requirements. I don't know the legal differences between licensee and franchise.

http://licensing.whitecastle.com/#contact

It appears the link you provided is for international consideration. While I was not specific in my original post, I was talking about Oklahoma specifically and the US generally. Sorry I was not clear.

https://consumerist.com/2015/07/14/t...er-revolution/

In 1987, White Castle moved into the pre-packaged retail business when it launched a line of frozen sliders sold at grocery stores, ensuring that customers thousands of miles away from the nearest location could enjoy the small burgers.

Billy Ingram died in 1966, but his style of management continues at the more than 400 White Castle locations in a dozen states.

Because Ingram never franchised the restaurants or sold the company, White Castle remains privately held and family managed.
Consumerist. July 14, 2015. Retrieved December 27, 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant)
The first White Castle in the far western United States opened at the Casino Royale Hotel & Casino on the Las Vegas Strip on January 27, 2015.[25] This was the first expansion for White Castle into a different state in 56 years. On the first day of business, demand for food was so great that the restaurant had to temporarily close for two hours to restock.[26] White Castle Vice President Jamie Richardson said that the store sold 4,000 sliders per hour in its first 12 hours. He was not aware of any similar closing because of demand in White Castle's 94-year history. A second White Castle location opened in Las Vegas on September 22, 2017, on Fremont Street.

[ctchandler]

Jersey Boss,
I don't the difference between a licensee and a franchise from a legal standpoint but Hertz has licensees and they are private businesses that are located in a place that Hertz believes they can't make money. Hertz corporate locations are all standalone car rental facilities, and most licensees own a hotel or some other business and don't have employees that just rent cars. The employees check folks into their hotel and if their customers need a rental car, they provide that as well. A little different from a franchise but I suspect they are very similar in their contracts with the parent company.
C. T.

[Urbanized]

Having grown up in Wichita I was shocked the first time I read that White Castle started there. I had no inkling of this as I’m pretty sure there was no trace of the company there by the time I was born (1967). In fact I never even heard it talked about. Unsure if I’d ever even heard of the company before I moved to OKC in ‘86, where I recall people from other places - or at least who had spent time in other places - speaking of it in reverent tones. Never once did I hear someone talking about it as having been in OKC, which corroborates the debunkings I’ve seen on this site.

[jerrywall]

We've had copycats in the metro that sold sliders and some that even used signage and decor to look like a white castle, but the only real one as far as I know was in Muskogee.

As for Krystals, they are greasy crap burgers but they sure absorb liquor. When I used to go to New Orleans on a regular basis, they were the best late night/early morning treat.

[seaofchange]

Where was Boston Market? I remember in the nineties we we're barraged by ads for them for several years and it looked great, and I repeatedly tried to find one here but was always told there wasn't one. Never made sense why they advertised so much and was really frustrating.

Finally on a trip to South Carolina circa '99 or 2000 I ran across one in Greenville and tried it. Went in a couple of times over the few days I was there and definitely liked it enough to wish it was in OKC but not so much that it was life-changing.

Funny story, that Boston Market in Greenville was within walking distance of my house. I lived there from 1998-2002. It closed around the time I moved to OK, and was then a Jack in the Box. Now it's a Taco Bell.

[jerrywall]

My father worked for McDonald's corporate for the short time they owned Boston Market. I know in Oklahoma there were a few, both stand alone, and inside of grocery stores (there was one in the homeland at 33rd and Broadway in Edmond). But they all closed down pretty quickly in the mid/late 90s.

[Pete]

Wasn't there a Boston Market near May & Britton?

There were all over SoCal and it was good but not anything I miss.

[Urbanized]

Funny story, that Boston Market in Greenville was within walking distance of my house. I lived there from 1998-2002. It closed around the time I moved to OK, and was then a Jack in the Box. Now it's a Taco Bell.

Greenville was a great little town to visit. I was there with my (then) wife who was there for a software users' conference, so my days were free. Because we were at the Embassy Suites I had member golf privileges at Verdae Green (now Verdae Preserve). I was playing pretty decent golf at the time, like low 80s on OKC municipal courses, playing everything down and counting everything. So I got on that course and thought I'd give it a run. If I recall correctly I had a hard time breaking 100 in multiple rounds. Kicked my butt. Didn't help that the PGA had just been there the week before with the (at the time) Nike Tour, so everything was still set for the pros. Greens ridiculously fast, roughs impossibly deep. There was a bunch of buzz because it was right in the middle of the Casey Martin controversy (in looking that up looks like I was there in 2001). It's the closest I've ever been to playing a course with tour conditions and it is no joke. But the course was unbelievably nice.

[RustytheBailiff]

[QUOTE=Jersey Boss;1028487]In this country, you may become a licensee, such as the one in Las Vegas. As you can see in the link they have certain location requirements. I don't know the legal differences between licensee and franchise.

For the legal difference between a licensing agreement and a franchise agreement go here: https://legalvision.com.au/differenc...ise-agreement/

While WC may call theirs a Licensing Agreement, it is in actuality a Franchise Agreement. WC make specific requirements as to the design, building, equipment, and operations. A quick looks at the Vegas White Castle shows that the building of similar design, the menu is generally similar to any other menu and that all paper goods are idential to those used elsewhere. While I have no idea why they perfer the term Licensign Agreement, it it a franchise arrangement that they offer.

[billokc]

I drove by the location of the In-N-Out banner today (Sat Apr 7th). It's gone.