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    Far North OG&E Energy Center

    $553 million
    architect=Robert A.M. Stern Architects
    height=2 25-story office towers; 2 26-story residential
    acreage=6.5 acres
    Attached parking and retail


    Information & Latest News

    7/26/13: "As for those who question whether Rainey Williams is just a front, and question his capacity for doing this development, well, you don't know Rainey Williams." http://newsok.com/article/3866278

    1/7/15: New TIF District would fund OG&E HQ, convention garage and hotel
    http://newsok.com/proposed-project-c...rticle/4987881

    1/11/16: It became apparent that someone didn't know Rainey Williams. http://newsok.com/oge-energy-center-...rticle/5471877

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Clayco -- the design / build firm we first reported to be hired by Rainey Williams -- is proposing a development on the pink and blue properties below.

    The City is saying they want to issue an RFP (responses due in 60 days) and consider all proposals before making a decision, as there are other interested parties.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Heavens to Betsy Claire, what a dreadful idea.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpate View Post
    Heavens to Betsy Claire, what a dreadful idea.
    While some may think it clever and not such a "dreadful idea," some of us see it as calculating and manipulative. I suppose there's nothing wrong with it if one thinks this kind of "look over here!" while an icon is demolished is acceptable. I'm just one that doesn't think that it is. It may be typical, but it's still manipulation.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    In early. LETS GOOOOO

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    BTW, I don't know what James Dunn plans to do with his property on this block but the City could use eminent domain to make it available for a developer who would like to include it in their larger plan.

    Not saying this would happen, but it means that any potential developer knows that they don't have to depend on Dunn voluntarily selling in order to include that property in their plans.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Who said OKC is dead.......smh

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    If this property was developed, it makes the existing plaza between it and the OG&E HQ pretty irrelevant and an opportunity to return it to a street; or at the very least serve as a link between the two developments.

    Also, what now for the Arts Festival? Seems like an easy solution would be to move it to Sheridan and make better use of Devon's outdoor space.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Even more reason why California Ave should be re-opened. We need to be breaking up these super blocks as fast as we can.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Why not include what they wanna do on this part of the block on the stage center site? Seems like a waste of space. I'm excited for this entire block to be developed, but just seems like this could all be built on the stage center foot print. Unless if its a massive development, but I don't believe that.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    This is Jim Couch's memo to the City Council:



    DATE: JULY 15, 2014
    TO: THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
    SUBJECT: DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY AT RENO AND HUDSON

    National developer Clayco, is planning a new class “A” corporate headquarters for OG&E on the former Stage Center site owned by Kestrel Investments at 400 West Sheridan Avenue (North Block). The City and the Oklahoma City Economic Development Trust (OCEDT) own most of the block south of the former Stage Center property (South Block). The development team working on the OG&E Project has recognized an opportunity to do a more significant project by including the South Block in the current planning and design process. Combining the blocks offers the possibility of the construction of a larger parking structure and enhanced mixed use development. Due to the significant economic benefit of the larger development opportunity, The Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City would like to engage in a process to determine the feasibility of this and to do so in a way that is in the best interest of The City.

    Why are the City and Trust involved?
    • The City currently owns approximately half of the South Block, with OCEDT owning most of the remaining half of the block (see attached)
    • The Oklahoma City Urban Renewal Authority (OCURA) is the public agency typically used by the City to carry out redevelopment plans.
    • OCURA can issue an RFP in anticipation of the City and OCEDT transferring properties to OCURA for redevelopment purposes.

    Proposed Process:
    • OCURA will consider a resolution authorizing the issuance of an RFP at its July 16, 2014 meeting. The RFP will state that selection and designation of a redeveloper is contingent upon the transfer of the land from the City and OCEDT. Interested parties will be given 60 days to respond.
    • The process to transfer the land from the City and OCEDT will take place over the next two months.
    • Identify a conditional redeveloper and agree on a schedule to implement the South Block development plan.

    The City/OCEDT property at Reno Avenue and Hudson Avenue presents a significant development opportunity and it is advantageous to determine if other developers will submit proposals. The plan to transfer the property to OCURA and accept proposals will allow consideration of redevelopment options through a tested, transparent process. Please contact me if you have further questions.

    James D. Couch
    City Manager



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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    This is Jim Couch's memo to the City Council:



    DATE: JULY 15, 2014
    TO: THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
    SUBJECT: DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY AT RENO AND HUDSON

    National developer Clayco, is planning a new class “A” corporate headquarters for OG&E on the former Stage Center site owned by Kestrel Investments at 400 West Sheridan Avenue (North Block). The City and the Oklahoma City Economic Development Trust (OCEDT) own most of the block south of the former Stage Center property (South Block). The development team working on the OG&E Project has recognized an opportunity to do a more significant project by including the South Block in the current planning and design process. Combining the blocks offers the possibility of the construction of a larger parking structure and enhanced mixed use development. Due to the significant economic benefit of the larger development opportunity, The Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City would like to engage in a process to determine the feasibility of this and to do so in a way that is in the best interest of The City.

    Why are the City and Trust involved?
    • The City currently owns approximately half of the South Block, with OCEDT owning most of the remaining half of the block (see attached)
    • The Oklahoma City Urban Renewal Authority (OCURA) is the public agency typically used by the City to carry out redevelopment plans.
    • OCURA can issue an RFP in anticipation of the City and OCEDT transferring properties to OCURA for redevelopment purposes.

    Proposed Process:
    • OCURA will consider a resolution authorizing the issuance of an RFP at its July 16, 2014 meeting. The RFP will state that selection and designation of a redeveloper is contingent upon the transfer of the land from the City and OCEDT. Interested parties will be given 60 days to respond.
    • The process to transfer the land from the City and OCEDT will take place over the next two months.
    • Identify a conditional redeveloper and agree on a schedule to implement the South Block development plan.

    The City/OCEDT property at Reno Avenue and Hudson Avenue presents a significant development opportunity and it is advantageous to determine if other developers will submit proposals. The plan to transfer the property to OCURA and accept proposals will allow consideration of redevelopment options through a tested, transparent process. Please contact me if you have further questions.

    James D. Couch
    City Manager


    They already have Stage Center Photo Shopped out like its just a grassy knoll.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    I'm feeling all sorts of justified about my continued optimism regarding the stage center tower. Also a little smug.

    Since that memo is dated next Tuesday, does that mean there'll be some amount of discussion about this at the city council meeting that day? (Assuming there is one, at least, do they meet every Tuesday?)

    One more edit: In case anyone missed the discussion of this in the stage center tower thread, Clayco's portfolio can be viewed here.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Clayco cant just build the OGE tower higher and bigger to include this mixed use that they want on the south? There is plenty of space on the stage center block to make it work. But why control one block when you can control two...

    And I could see some serious legal issues to eminent domain-ing the Dunn property to transfer to another developer.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    BTW, I don't know what James Dunn plans to do with his property on this block but the City could use eminent domain to make it available for a developer who would like to include it in their larger plan.

    Not saying this would happen, but it means that any potential developer knows that they don't have to depend on Dunn voluntarily selling in order to include that property in their plans.
    Quote Originally Posted by onthestrip View Post
    Clayco cant just build the OGE tower higher and bigger to include this mixed use that they want on the south? There is plenty of space on the stage center block to make it work. But why control one block when you can control two...

    And I could see some serious legal issues to eminent domain-ing the Dunn property to transfer to another developer.
    I'm with onthestrip on this one. In 2006 The Oklahoma Supreme Court held in BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF MUSKOGEE COUNTY v. LOWERY - FindLaw that economic development is not a permitted reason to use eminent domain under the Oklahoma Constitution:

    While the Takings Clause of the U.S. Constitution provides “nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation,” the Oklahoma Constitution places further restrictions by expressly stating “[n]o private property shall be taken or damaged for private use, with or without compensation.”  OKLA. CONST. art. 2, § 23   ......  The proposed purpose of economic development, with its incidental enhancement of tax and employment benefits to the surrounding community, clearly does not fall within any of these categories of express constitutional exceptions to the general rule against the taking of private property for private use.

    That said, the fact OGE/Rainey/Clayco wants to beef-up this project is encouraging. I assume they are prepared to deal with Mr. Dunn if required.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Steve's article, including the answer to my city council question.

    City Manager Jim Couch also is expected to present a report on the potential development at Tuesday’s meeting of the Oklahoma City Council.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Actually, the eminent domain issue has been used many times for this exact type of purpose, but it appears that property has been -- at least for now -- excluded from the RFP.


    Although the idea of developing this property is enticing, I'm conflicted.

    1. This could mean a better development on the Stage Center site plus something great to the south.

    or

    2. It could be nothing more than doubling the footprint of an already disappointing development and in the process taking yet another prime piece of downtown property.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    The article by Steve is updated with more information. This is going to be a large development next to the new tower, and will not affect the 16 - 18 story OG & E tower. From reading the article, we might see our first new mixed-use high rise. And depending on if hotel is developed and how many rooms, it could impact the development of the convention center hotel.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by G.Walker View Post
    The article by Steve is updated with more information. This is going to be a large development next to the new tower, and will not affect the 16 - 18 story OG & E tower. From reading the article, we might see our first new mixed-use high rise. And depending on if hotel is developed and how many rooms, it could impact the development of the convention center hotel.
    That's not what the updated article says at all, unless I'm just missing the part you are talking about.

    “What happens in the future will have a huge impact on our site,” Chapman said. “Pete Delaney (CEO of OGE Energy Corp.) is very interested in seeing something next door that is very nice, He said if it’s available, let’s look at it and have something much bigger, something that is mixed use. We’re talking about doing something that is far bigger, far more robust.
    Chapman said any potential development of the south half of the block would not result in dropping the previously announced 16- to 18-story height of the OGE Energy Corp. tower. Chapman said an expanded development likely will include housing and a hotel.
    “Everyone wants to see more height here, and that’s a good goal to have,” Chapman said.
    Not dropping the height is not the same thing as not affecting it.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by G.Walker View Post
    The article by Steve is updated with more information. This is going to be a large development next to the new tower, and will not affect the 16 - 18 story OG & E tower. From reading the article, we might see our first new mixed-use high rise. And depending on if hotel is developed and how many rooms, it could impact the development of the convention center hotel.
    You can't seriously believe that can you? I'll be shocked if this is taller than 10 stories and that includes the parking parage. I really think they are still just trying to take advantage of the parking shortage, so will have 5 or so floors of parking and on top of that will stick 4-5 stories of hotel on one side & will stick 4-5 stories of housing on the other side. There will probably be retail on the bottom floor. There is absolutely 0% chance this will be a "high rise".

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    Might. I'm not holding my breath. Wow me so I can lose some of the huge regret I have over the Stage Center destruction.

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    I hope Larry Nichols is disappointed everyday when he has to look at what he allowed. He is one of the primary reasons the Stage Center was torn down, as all he has to do is lift or point a finger and the city rushes to do his bidding. If this development doesn't knock it out of the park, I just hope he and the city experience significant regret. I'm not usually a bitter person, but this disaster makes me angry and bitter.

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    I think this will end up being a high rise. I agree with G.Walker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by modernism View Post
    I think this will end up being a high rise. I agree with G.Walker...
    Clayco built a 30 story mixed use residential high rise in St. Louis.


    http://www.claycorp.com/p/329/the-plaza-in-clayton/

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    Default Re: Possible New Development South of Stage Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
    Clayco built a 30 story mixed use residential high rise in St. Louis.


    Office & Residential Construction - Clayco - The Plaza in Clayton
    Also, The Vue in Orlando:

    Apartment Building Construction - Clayco - The Vue ? Orlando

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