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    Far North Omni Hotel


    Information & Latest News

    SW corner of Robinson & Reno
    status=proposed
    cost=est $200 million
    finish= est 2019
    other= Recommended 735 rooms

    3/28/15: Four finalists named
    Dollar figures in millions
    # Entity Flag Rooms Total Cost Public Cost Notes
    1 Omni Omni 600 $190.2 $70.5 $119.7 in equity; no debt. Remainder is public.
    2 Marcus Hilton 600 $210.0 $63 to $84 Operates the Skirvin; private equity 10-15%; private financing 50-55%
    3 Matthew Westin 600 $180.0 $50 to $90? $90 private debt; $40 private equity; $50 private financing
    4 Mortenson Hyatt 600 $200.0 $80 to $120 Public investment of 40-60%
    Links

    Convention Hotel Study
    Downtown Hotel Summary
    Urban Project Summary
    Gallery

    1/7/15: New TIF District would fund OG&E HQ, convention garage and hotel
    12/17/13: Consultant supports hotel plan
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    Study suggests Oklahoma City can support $200 million, 735-room conference hotel

    By Steve Lackmeyer Modified: December 13, 2013 at 9:52 pm • Published: December 14, 2013
    Two reports being delivered Tuesday to the Oklahoma City Council advise that the city can support construction of a 735-room conference hotel as part of development of a new convention center.

    Texas consultant Jeremy Stone's study, compiled though visits with local hoteliers and analysis of local hospitality data, reports five full-service, “competitive” hotels enjoyed average room occupancy of 75.6 percent, with an average daily room rate of $129 in 2012.

    After consideration of additional limited-service hotels being built or planned in Bricktown and Deep Deuce, Stone's report concludes that a new conference hotel, if it opened with the new convention center in 2019, would hit 56 percent occupancy that first year, jump to 64 percent the next year, and average out at 66 percent occupancy in 2022.

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    That's great news Pete! Does anyone have a number on how many total rooms that would make it for all of downtown?

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    If it would open to 56% occupancy, and average out at 66% three years later, wouldn't that suggest it ought to be closer to a 600 room hotel and run more like 80% on average?
    Or do hotels not run averages that high and doing so would somehow be a bad thing.

    - rarely have someone leave a light on for me, fancy or otherwise.
    Last edited by kevinpate; 12-14-2013 at 12:41 PM. Reason: typos, always typos

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    Where would the funding for the convention center hotel come from? Bond funds?

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    Probably because they can run at 66% average occupancy but still have the option to fill to 100% for certain weekends and events.

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    Hopefully the hotel operator will be new franchise that is currently not in our market like, Omni, JW Marriott, or W.

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    Some of the money could come from tif funds and go bond funds

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpate View Post
    It is would open to 56% occupancy, and average out at 66% three years later, wouldn't that suggest it ought to be closer to a 600 room hotel and run more like 80% on average?
    Or do hotels not run averages that high and doing so would somehow be a bad thing.

    - rarely have someone leave a light on for me, fancy or otherwise.
    I know this sounds weird, but the 60 percent is the threshold for what is considered a successful hotel. 80 percent would be considered perpetually full. I am told downtown hotels, all considered, are averaging at 76 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfry View Post
    That's great news Pete! Does anyone have a number on how many total rooms that would make it for all of downtown?
    See this summary:

    Downtown Hotel Summary - OKCTalk


    If everything gets build that is proposed, we would have almost 4,000 rooms in the downtown area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    See this summary:

    Downtown Hotel Summary - OKCTalk


    If everything gets build that is proposed, we would have almost 4,000 rooms in the downtown area.
    The report only counts 2000 of those as competitive for conventions due to level of service and proximity to the convention center. They included all of the hotels in the CBD and the proposed convention center hotel in that count

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    nm

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    Can someone fill me in on the graphic at the top of this thread? Is this a new conceptual study of what they might build? I have to say as much as I have not been too thrilled about the location that they keep insisting for this, something of this nature with a great street presence and street level retail on both sides, or even shrouding the building itself with a mix of live work studio, brownstones etc. with carefully designed convention center entrances would be exciting. I realize that the danger is that with such a simplistic form and lacking any context it is enough to let my imagination run wild and hope for the best. This concept allows that to happen, so has my radar going off. Any additional detail would be welcome. Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC@heart View Post
    Can someone fill me in on the graphic at the top of this thread? Is this a new conceptual study of what they might build? I have to say as much as I have not been too thrilled about the location that they keep insisting for this, something of this nature with a great street presence and street level retail on both sides, or even shrouding the building itself with a mix of live work studio, brownstones etc. with carefully designed convention center entrances would be exciting. I realize that the danger is that with such a simplistic form and lacking any context it is enough to let my imagination run wild and hope for the best. This concept allows that to happen, so has my radar going off. Any additional detail would be welcome. Thanks in advance!
    Never mind, answered myself on this one by looking at the Convention center thread, and getting caught up. So that is quite a change. will be interested to see what the materials for the building are to consist of, and would really like to have the backsides of the building to address the street with a mixed use application so we do not get a dead space similar to what was by the back or sides of the Cox Convention center. Cement wasteland with a line or two of trees. One can dream...

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    They have $30 million (money that was first designated to move the OG&E power grid) in a contingency fund? Could some of that be used to lure an anchor hotel as part of the Oklahoma City MAPS III convention center & hotel development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    They have $30 million (money that was first designated to move the OG&E power grid) in a contingency fund? Could some of that be used to lure an anchor hotel as part of the Oklahoma City MAPS III convention center & hotel development?
    That would be a win-win situation but I doubt it'll go down like that. Probably will be put toward the cost of the convention center itself if actual collections fall under projections. BTW, does anyone know where we're at on MAPS3 collections thus far? Calling LarryOKC. LarryOKC, are you out there? You can post a link to your answer on the proper thread in this thread if you need to!

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    The math and logic behind this whole thing is so screwy it makes my head hurt just to think about it. Alas, it proves one thing, the OKC Chamber are experts at double counting. As for losing out on 100 conventions - I wonder if anyone can name one of them.

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    Not to blend this thread with another popular thread, but I'm guessing that Shadid comes after this project if he gets elected. Of course he probably comes after the streetcar too. So the way this all shook out is that it is a package deal. You gotta take the good with the bad, or you can lose both.

    Hmmm.... Almost as if the writers of the MAPS3 ballot initiative planned it that way.

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    But...it would be OK if he came after the CC or the CC hotel, as long as he doesn't come after the streetcar, right..?
    NOTICE: I WORK FOR A DOWNTOWN TOURIST ATTRACTION

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    Shadid won't ever get that chance. Cornett is locked-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    But...it would be OK if he came after the CC or the CC hotel, as long as he doesn't come after the streetcar, right..?
    I think OKC needs both. It would be great to start getting some high profile conventions here. I could be wrong but I don't think the Cox cuts it. The convention center attached to an Omni or Hyatt hotel would be a huge coup for OKC. After the completion of the Aloft, downtown will have four full-service hotels. I think it could handle one more. Most of the best hotels in OKC are in the NW Expressway business district, not downtown.

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    I agree with you bchris02. I think OKC needs both.
    NOTICE: I WORK FOR A DOWNTOWN TOURIST ATTRACTION

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKVision4U View Post
    Shadid won't ever get that chance. Cornett is locked-in.
    Please don't assume that and stay away from the polls March 4. Better yet, get 5 of your friends to vote as well. Shadid supporters will all be voting and the danger is if Mick supporters think they don't have to, that the race is locked up.

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    This is not a case of The Chicken or The Egg debate. We have to have these (high caliber) facilities before we can attrack larger conventions and additional outside business opportunities in industry shows. These items are a must on the next-level stage for OKC. Convention Center & Hotel. ...and i want 50 stories too. (if not, then lots of eye candy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanized View Post
    But...it would be OK if he came after the CC or the CC hotel, as long as he doesn't come after the streetcar, right..?
    They should just sell the CC as a quality of life and civic pride project and knock it off with these crazy out of the realm of possibility projections. They are embarrassing themselves. It is okay for the people to have nice things built with public money. They should leave it at that.

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