Best and Worst Casino around Oklahoma City area

[RadicalModerate]

So that the state can skim their cut off the top?
(i've never heard of an "ante" in blackjack either . . . until now)

[kelroy55]

Speaking of casino's.... which one has the best buffet's?

[Larry OKC]

I very rarely go to the casino's, why would there be a state law for an ante in BJ?

Couldn't copy/paste the info but if you will go here and scroll down to #19...

http://www.ok.gov/OGC/documents/Model%20Compact.pdf

[SomeGuy]

Best would have to be Newcastle, they have pretty good machines and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Winstar it is pretty big and has great concerts ( honestly IDK what town Winstar is in I usually take a bus there)

[ljbab728]

Best would have to be Newcastle, they have pretty good machines and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Winstar it is pretty big and has great concerts ( honestly IDK what town Winstar is in I usually take a bus there)

Probably nobody mentoned Winstar because it's not in the OKC area.

[OKCTalker]

Aren't they required by state law to have the ante (or did they figure out a loop hole)?

Oklahoma casinos are NOT regulated. There is no oversight by the gambling board, they do not report payouts to anyone, and they do not have a minimum amount that they are required to pay out.

To the "entertainment" comparison and buying popcorn and a drink at the movies, at least at the movies you know the pic you'll be seeing, how long it will run, you can read reviews beforehand, and they'll show you the size of the drink cup and popcorn container before filling them. How many times would you go back if you didn't know those things in advance, or had the ability to complain if you felt you didn't get your "entertainment" dollar's worth?

Which is another reason I'll never step into one of these places, even for a concert. Ever.

[RadicalModerate]

Oklahoma casinos are NOT regulated. There is no oversight by the gambling board, they do not report payouts to anyone, and they do not have a minimum amount that they are required to pay out.

To the "entertainment" comparison and buying popcorn and a drink at the movies, at least at the movies you know the pic you'll be seeing, how long it will run, you can read reviews beforehand, and they'll show you the size of the drink cup and popcorn container before filling them. How many times would you go back if you didn't know those things in advance, or had the ability to complain if you felt you didn't get your "entertainment" dollar's worth?

Which is another reason I'll never step into one of these places, even for a concert. Ever.

Nearly every time I gamble on seeing a really good movie at the megaplex, I lose.
(not every time, just most of the time.)
This is probably why I will never go to a local casino either. Hell . . . If I were to bet on Mel Tillis or even Don Williams being as good as they used to be--at about ten times the price of a ticket back when they were good--I'd probably lose that bet too.

[OkiePoke]

Are there any non-ante BJ tables in the OKC area?

[Richard at Remax]

Only one that I know of is Grand Casino, but it's only on Monday-Thursday.

[Dr Beard Face]

Are there any non-ante BJ tables in the OKC area?

Thunderbird Casino in norman does it on a certain day of the week. not sure which day it is, I feel like it was tuesday. I used to go with my roommate when he needed a ride and would front me money to play with so I was never paying much attention.

[tyeomans]

Riverwind is our go-to casino around the metro. They give us better freeplay, and we just flat out win more. Plus, I think they have a better variety of games to play. They get a lot of new ones in frequently too. The Grand and Lucky Star Concho are absolutely terrible. It's so hard to play on the casino's money at these places. The Grand needs to update their machines as there are WAY too many of the same kind of machine. We haven't been out to Newcastle other than a few times, but I can say that it hasn't really impressed me. It's almost as dirty and disgusting as Remington with cigarette ashes covering everything.

[Roger S]

A few years back one of the Casino's, may have been Riverwind, had a black jack table setup at the State Fair. You could set down and play for candy. I sat down and played a few hands and the dealer asked me where I played in Oklahoma. I told him I didn't play in Oklahoma due to the ante and explained to him why.

I had recently been to Michigan and had been playing for about 2 hours. At the end of the two hours I was about $100 ahead. If I had been playing in Oklahoma at the end of two hours I would have been about even given that I had been able to even stay at the table due to the loss of the ante every hand.

Add to that every casino in Oklahoma has the worst odds dealing from 6+ deck shoes....... If you hunt hard enough in Vegas you can still find some good single deck games and when I was in the Bahamas I found a single deck game there that was nearly even odds.... I was covering the ex's losses to the slot machines and paying for our meals the week I was there. played, and ate, on the casino's money the entire week.

[Richard at Remax]

Didn't know where to ask but apparently they just passed or were going to pass the bill that would allow dice games (real roulette and craps) and wondered when that went into effect? Does anyone know if you still have to do the stupid ante too? Thanks

[d-usa]

If they weren't filed as emergency bills, they would go in effect in November I think?

[Urbanized]

Man, just get rid of the stupid ante. Completely prevents me from playing in OK, since blackjack is about the only thing I care about. The only way to (sort of) take it out of play is to go high stakes, and I don’t plan on ever doing that. I think there are a few casinos at this point who waive the ante, but not in the close metro.

[gopokes88]

Man, just get rid of the stupid ante. Completely prevents me from playing in OK, since blackjack is about the only thing I care about. The only way to (sort of) take it out of play is to go high stakes, and I don’t plan on ever doing that. I think there are a few casinos at this point who waive the ante, but not in the close metro.

What’s the ante even for? Like where does that quarter go to?

[Urbanized]

Straight profit to the casino. I can’t even remover what the rationale was. And it’s TWO quarters. Per hand. So if you’re playing $5 bets, you are essentially guaranteed to give an uncontested hand to the house for every ten you play.

I’m pretty decent at blackjack owing to having strategy memorized and playing in a really disciplined manner. In Vegas or wherever else I win about as much as I lose. But I’ve gotten up after a few too many long sits in Oklahoma and realized I should be up a couple hundred bucks but instead was break even or even down, owing to hundreds of hands where I gave the house four bits before I even saw cards. I freaking HATE IT.

[Dustin]

What’s the ante even for? Like where does that quarter go to?

I can't find anything about it online (I'm on my phone), but I think it goes to the state. Some casinos will pay the ante for you as a promotion.

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^^^^
Nope. Pure profit for the casino: http://newsok.com/article/3119594

3. Players pay an ante of 50 cents each hand for some live games. Where does the money go? On blackjack, the ante is what the casino makes as profit. If a player loses his hand, that loss goes into a player pool which is used to pay players that win and all the promotional giveaways that casinos do.

The reason people think it goes to the state is that the standard answer they give you at the table when you ask about it is “the State of Oklahoma mandates that we charge a fifty cent ante on each hand...”

[CloudDeckMedia]

Oklahoma casinos are NOT regulated. There is no oversight by the gambling board, they do not report payouts to anyone, and they do not have a minimum amount that they are required to pay out.

Is this still the case - that Indian casinos aren't required to have independent audits on payouts, and that the results aren't made public?

[gopokes88]

Well that really sucks

[Richard at Remax]

Unless it's changed the Grand Casino is ante free Monday-Thurs. That's crazy about the ante though. I've had different dealers from different casinos say it goes to the state. That they didn't want to push it on slot players since that's what most of the people play and don't want to make clientele mad. You'd think it'd be the opposite approach. Like the above poster said, I don't play in Oklahoma due to the ante on the tables. I hope they reconsider getting rid of it since more people like myself would play.

[sooner333]

The ante is required because Oklahoma does not allow “house banked” card games (and with the new law, dice and ball games will not be house banked either). Technically the casino must give earnings from the table games back to the players (except for 10% which the law allows them to keep). Some casinos do this by paying the ante on some nights, others do not seat promotions or giveaways. The .50 ante is the casino’s main profit center and probably what they give a percentage of to the state per their compacts. So until the state allows house banked card games, there will be an ante.