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    Far North Preftakes Block

    A group led by Preservation Oklahoma is hoping to stop plans to demolish nine historic properties in the heart of downtown.

    Hines Development recently revealed plans to build a 27-story office tower and two parking garages on the block directly west of the Devon Energy Center. Dubbed 499 Sheridan, Devon Energy will be a major tenant and the architect is Pickard Chilton who also teamed with Hines to build the Devon complex.

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    To make way, some of the last remnants of Oklahoma City's once-thriving Main Street shopping district would be razed, along with the former Hotel Black (also known as One North Hudson) and several other structures dating back as far as 1917.

    All the properties – except the bus station which was acquired in 2012 – were purchased by local developer Nick Preftakes in the 16 months preceding Devon's announcement regarding their new headquarters.

    Preftakes has spent $16 million in assembling the 2.5 acres; more than $6.2 million per acre, with almost all that investment made six years ago. For comparison, the slightly larger Stage Center site immediately to the south sold in 2013 for $1.35 million per acre.


    It is not clear if Preftakes will be selling to Hines or will retain some sort of ownership interest. It is also not clear who else may be investing in the project, although there is a City-owned lot which would also have to be acquired.

    In the case of the Stage Center, a group led by Preservation Oklahoma (POK) mounted a challenge to the proposed removal of the award-winning but controversial theater building, only to lose out when both the Downtown Design Review Committee then the Board of Appeals voted in favor of demolition.

    499 Sheridan will follow the same process, as an application has already been filed with the Downtown Design Review Committee and the group will vote on Jan. 15th.


    Hines presented to the committee last week in order to gauge feedback. Although no formal vote was taken at that time, members of the committee provided general suggestions individually and in turn. There were several comments but no specific recommendations at that time.

    In an interview with Preservation Oklahoma's Executive Director, David Pettyjohn, OKCTalk was told the organization is officially opposing any demolition on the site, as all structures have historic significance.

    After watching these buildings being systematically emptied of tenants with no improvements made, Preservation Oklahoma had placed all the buildings on it's 2014 “Oklahoma's Most Endangered Historic Places” list.

    Pettyjohn explained his group respects the rights of private owners and that prior to such placement the organization contacts building owners and offers their assistance. In the case of Nick Preftakes, phone calls went completely unanswered and unreturned.

    Located in Oklahoma City and founded in 1992, Preservation Oklahoma is a nonprofit organization dedicated to promoting, supporting and coordinating historic preservation activities throughout the state.

    Pettyjohn said that although they had been keeping a watchful eye on this particular block, once specific plans were revealed for the first time just two weeks ago, the organization had to hurriedly call a special board meeting to decide how to proceed.

    The timing of the filings means only a one-month notice before a binding vote, with the holidays square in the middle. In the case of both Stage Center and the controversial demolitions by SandRidge Energy, much more notice was provided.

    After attending the first Hines presentation to the design review committee, the group soon after issued a public statement and formally sent it to the Downtown Design Review Committee:

    “Preservation Oklahoma has long been concerned over the proposed demolition of numerous historic buildings for the proposed development known as 499 Sheridan. We have demonstrated this concern by including the block on our 2014 list of Oklahoma’s Most Endangered Historic Places. While we applaud the continued economic development of downtown Oklahoma City, we strongly believe the proposed location will result in the irreversible loss of an important part of Oklahoma City’s history.

    The block has been determined to be eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places as a historic district for its significance to early Oklahoma City commercial development. Most of the buildings proposed for demolition would be considered contributing resources to the district and the Union Bus Station has been determined eligible for individual listing on the National Register.

    Preservation Oklahoma respectfully requests that the DDRC deny the application to demolish these important and irreplacable markers of Oklahoma City's past.”
    The group has also organized a formal petition and plans to speak against the demolitions at the DDRC meeting on January 15th.

    https://www.change.org/p/oklahoma-ci...city-s-history

    POK has also formed a special task force and will be reaching out to other organizations seeking support and encourages concerned parties to email the Downtown Design Review Committee through Paula Hurst at paula.hurst@okc.gov.



    Here is a look at all the buildings that would be demolished:







    1. 416 W. Main (1919); 2. 412 W. Main (1937); 3. 408 W. Main (1917); 4. Carpenter Square (1939)



    5. Motor Hotel (1921); 6. One North Hudson / Hotel Black (1927)



    7. 401 W. Sheridan (1919); 8. Lunch Box (1920)



    9. Union Bus Station (1941)



    Property
    Purchased Price Sq. Feet Acres $ / Acre
    1 434 W. Main 01/23/07 $400,000 3,864 0.098 $4,081,632
    2 Pizza Town no *3,228 *0.080
    3 Coney Island no *9,996 *0.080
    4 Main Place no *175,000 *0.906
    5 416 W. Main 12/07/07 $950,000 5,850 0.080 $11,875,000
    6 412 W. Main 01/16/07 $950,000 14,000 0.161 $5,900,621
    7 408 W. Main 03/08/07 $1,000,000 13,972 0.161 $6,211,180
    8 Carpenter Square 12/14/06 $1,075,000 14,000 0.331 $3,247,734
    9 Parking Lot 02/12/08 $90,000 0.117 $769,230
    10 Motor Hotel 05/27/07 $3,250,000 94,140 0.258 $12,596,899
    11 Union Bus Station 04/30/12 $2,000,000 13,000 0.477 $4,192,872
    12 Demolished 03/17/08 $525,000 0.241 $2,178,423
    13 Lunch Box 03/13/08 $750,000 5,425 0.241 $3,112,033
    14 401 W. Sheridan 10/26/07 12,800 0.167
    15 One North Hudson 10/26/07 $5,000,000 50,334 0.241 $12,254,901
    16 City Parking Lot no
    Totals: $15,990,000 227,385 2.573 $6,214,535
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  2. #2

    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Steve has been hinting about a secretive project with deep pockets behind it.

    The first thing I thought of was that block of properties.

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    If I'm not mistaken that's the block with the Carpenter Square theater the Hotel Black, right? If so, this will be one to watch...

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Here's all the property Precor owns on that block... Different colors used to highlight separate properties.

    Interestingly, the only thing he doesn't own is the bus station and the city-owned office building and adjacent parking (apart from Coney Island and the pizza place, labeled #2 & 3). It could very well be that he's working a deal with city for all those properties, which would give him control of the entire block.



    One North Hudson:



    Parking garage:



    Carpenter Square (vacant):


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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Brzycki View Post
    It could very well be that he's working a deal with city for all those properties, which would give him control of the entire block.
    Does he own any land in the Core to Shore park area that he could swap?

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Here's a bird's eye view:


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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Ironic that the "birds eye view" shows the original City Center parking garage under construction, now Devon is adding onto it.

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Any chance we're looking at a new building going up or just remodeling?

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    The only thing that would be worth remodeling would be the 8-story parking garage.

    One North Hudson has been redone in the last few decades and the rest (besides on one city office building) is low-rise and insignificant.

    I would imagine he would want to weave some taller buildings in that block for residential and perhaps retail on the ground floor(s).

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    I really don't see how he could w/out some considerable demo. of taller buildings or removing the bus station... hopefully we are blown away... Steve needs to hurry with that story I'm getting anxious!

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    The more I think about it, I bet he is going to demolish the old Carpenter Square Theatre since it's only 1 story, and replace it with a mid-rise of mixed use with retail on ground floor, maybe office space, and then residential on the upper floors.

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    Or is it that you actually know what his plans are.? Hmm.

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    I honestly don't on this one, pure speculation.

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Are the theaters there on the corner no longer in regular use?

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    The city-owned building (420 West Main) contains most of the City of OKC's offices. I doubt they are going anywhere for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuatrodeMayo View Post
    The city-owned building (420 West Main) contains most of the City of OKC's offices. I doubt they are going anywhere for a while.
    Unless he's building them office space in a new tower to trade out and make Main Place residential.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Brzycki View Post
    The only thing that would be worth remodeling would be the 8-story parking garage.
    Unless he converts them to residential. IMO the Black Hotel, the Motor Inn, and Main Place should all go residential, then he could infill with new construction where all the 1-story buildings are.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevinpate View Post
    Are the theaters there on the corner no longer in regular use?
    The building that is being called "Carpenter Square" was home to that theatre company years ago, and more recently, within the last 10 years, was home to now-defunct Skyline Theatre. It's been vacant for a while. I like the idea mentioned above of preserving its facade and building a high or midrise in the "core" of the building.

    Preftakes could also build tall on the surface lot that is in the middle of the block, similar to the plan for the Factory in BT. I would definitely be in favor of keeping the bus station for sure, as well as anything else that's possible, although I'm willing to lose a few of the 1-2 story buildings.
    Don't Edmond My Downtown

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    I am absolutely flabbergasted that anyone would even consider tearing down the Carpenter Square Building. Has OKC learned nothing from its sad past about the value of historic buildings? Even if it doesn't have a particular historic significance, it is still a wonderful classic art deco facade that gives an irreplaceable richness to the city. IF there is going to be development here the ONLY option would be to save the facade and build a complementary building (even a highrise) in the core. This has been done so often! Look at the Hearst building in NYC, albeit on a very different scale, or look at almost any city in Europe and you will find that respect for the past does not have to be in conflict with progress and the future.

    Does anyone have some insight about the history of the building so that we can start a grass-roots effort to save it?

    What scares me even more is the future of the old bus station in the same block. It is just begging to be very cool restaurant or club that would breath new life into that area. Please, please wake up OKC and don't let this happen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Pollard View Post
    I am absolutely flabbergasted that anyone would even consider tearing down the Carpenter Square Building. Has OKC learned nothing from its sad past about the value of historic buildings? Even if it doesn't have a particular historic significance, it is still a wonderful classic art deco facade that gives an irreplaceable richness to the city. IF there is going to be development here the ONLY option would be to save the facade and build a complementary building (even a highrise) in the core. This has been done so often! Look at the Hearst building in NYC, albeit on a very different scale, or look at almost any city in Europe and you will find that respect for the past does not have to be in conflict with progress and the future.

    Does anyone have some insight about the history of the building so that we can start a grass-roots effort to save it?

    What scares me even more is the future of the old bus station in the same block. It is just begging to be very cool restaurant or club that would breath new life into that area. Please, please wake up OKC and don't let this happen!!
    I agree, and hope the fact that Preftakes only asked to demolish one building on the block means that is not on the table. I actually think that if you renovated the currently empty retail buildings on the block they could be cool as well.

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    Demolishing drab, poorly constructed buildings is one thing, but demolishing buildings that have made it 50-75 years and still have some kind of beauty is not okay. I try to be skeptical about what is worth saving, but when you really think about it there are plenty of other locations to develop. Several blocks nearby are totally grassy areas. Renovate the nice old structures and build on the grass.

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Which buidling are they destroying?

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    On Carpenter Square, Preftakes has gotta know there would be an outcry if he proposed its demolition. This all pure speculation, but I could imagine a scenario where the original core is kept and floors are added. I believe I saw that on the rendering for the flatiron loft rendering, and here's a cool one I found for a building in Washington State - same concept:

    The Yards/Foundry Lofts - JDLand.com

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Quote Originally Posted by mheaton76 View Post
    On Carpenter Square, Preftakes has gotta know there would be an outcry if he proposed its demolition. This all pure speculation, but I could imagine a scenario where the original core is kept and floors are added. I believe I saw that on the rendering for the flatiron loft rendering, and here's a cool one I found for a building in Washington State - same concept:

    The Yards/Foundry Lofts - JDLand.com
    This project looks awfully familiar to what could be done to the Fred Jones building (not sure if that's the actual name - FJ on water tower). It's to bad it's across the street from the jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrington00 View Post
    This project looks awfully familiar to what could be done to the Fred Jones building (not sure if that's the actual name - FJ on water tower). It's to bad it's across the street from the jail.
    I lived across the street from the jail for 5 years. Never had a problem. Funny thing -- when you let someone out of jail, they're usually on their best behavior, at least until they get home.

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    Suprised this hasn't been posted yet:

    Property buyer is coy about downtown plans
    BY STEVE LACKMEYER
    Published: October 20, 2009

    Nicholas Preftakes is still being coy about his plans for a block of properties he’s acquired west of the future home of Devon Energy Corp.

    But Preftakes is providing a bit more information this week about what he has planned.

    Records show Preftakes has spent about $14 million acquiring more than half of the block bounded by Hudson, Walker, Sheridan and Main. He doesn’t own 400 W Main or its attached parking — property that is part of City Hall. He also doesn’t own the home of Coney Island Hot Dogs, Pizza Town or the Union Bus Station.

    For the rest of Steve's article:
    NewsOK

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    Default Re: Preftakes to announce development across from Devon?

    Accela Citizen Access

    Building permit for "Dental Depot". Address says 420 W MAIN ST UNIT 8TH FLR.

    The parcel information says current use is Vacant land and this will be new 2 story construction?

    I'm a little confused, but Google maps places the address on the Preftakes block.

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