Choctaw Town Square

[mmonroe]

this was 3 years ago directly from the mouth of an ATC at Tinker.. thats my source.

[BrettM2]

As someone who works at Tinker, I can confirm that many people here don't have any basis in reality. Not confirming or denying the incentive, but I haven't heard of it.

[mmonroe]

as someone who works at tinker, i can confirm that many people here don't have any basis in reality.

hahahaha!

[bombermwc]

Yeah i'm still going to call a line of bull on that one. Someone might be putting out a rumor that they heard from someone else, but it's not happening.

Plus it's also counterproductive for them to want employees living far away...that means it takes them longer to get there if they are needed quickly and gives more of an excuse to not come in if there's bad weather...takes more effort to come in.

[mmonroe]

speculative

[Redskin 70]

Yeah i'm still going to call a line of bull on that one. Someone might be putting out a rumor that they heard from someone else, but it's not happening.

Plus it's also counterproductive for them to want employees living far away...that means it takes them longer to get there if they are needed quickly and gives more of an excuse to not come in if there's bad weather...takes more effort to come in.

I know for a fact that Base relocation services tell the officers when they come in they should consider Edmond or Norman

[mmonroe]

all the support mwc gives to the base and that's how base relocation gives back... now that is some bull of different kind.

[bombermwc]

That's not the same as giving them an incentive. They might say "oh you don't want to live in MWC", but that's not like they are giving them money to live further away.

I'd agree, that's some crap though and if someone in relocation is saying that, then they should be disciplined or fired.

[BrettM2]

Many of the higher officers and civilians live in Edmond for the status symbol. They play the politics game with every part of their lives, private is no different than public.

[Thunder]

this is speculative at best, but I heard some time ago that Tinker actually gave incentives to employees who built homes farther away from the base... and coupled with the East is in initiative, i'm not surprised of the increase in that area.

Correct!

This is a known fact for quite some time. TAFB has been doing as much as they can to keep homes and businesses far away from the area as possible. There is a deaf couple who were given incentives by TAFB to build a new home further east and part of the compensation was for longer drive distance.

I can understand why TAFB want to keep homes and businesses far away (recent example of witnessing a plane brushing the treetops at MWC's Festival of Lights). A lot of planes are flying dangerously close to the buildings and trees. I remember one plane flew dangerously low to Crest Market (Home of Rock Bottom Prices) and I could hear/feel the powerful engines along with the amazing view of the underside and the spinning engines.

However, it is ultimately up to the people and businesses for locating within such close distance. I personally think an agreement should be signed that TAFB can not be sued (the same as Sprint customers sign a contract stating they can not sue the company). Everyone choose their own risk.

Incentives can be declined/rejected, but the risk goes up. One example, MWC feels safety is below glamor when the enhanced shopping strip was built on 29th Street. The same for Del City's OnCue filled with thousands of gallons of gasoline with extreme potential to become a huge fireball inferno.

mmonroe, I just want to say once again, you are correct!

[Thunder]

Sorry,but this is STUPID!Choctaw doesnt have the population base for a WM and there is allready one just West on 23rd and Douglas.Are they hoping to draw from Jones,Harrah,Nicoma Park?

Incorrect!

It is not stupid. This is very common for Walmart to build within several miles of each of their own stores. You have to remember the growing population of humans, so there will always be an urgent need to build more stores to ease the stress of one store handling extreme load and wearing out quickly. Yes, there will be customers of the nearby towns and they will be very thankful of not having to use precious time and gas to reach a much further distance Walmart store.

I agree this is ridiculous, MWC WM is ten miles if that away from Choctaw and while Choctaw could use a state of the art grocery store, Harrah has a perfectly fine Country Boy Market that is a very large supermarket.

I feel for Jeff Williams of Williams grocery and Danny Boyle at Country Boy, they've both been so kind to the communities around us that I pray the business they've built will be maintained.

Ridiculous? Incorrect!

10 miles is the least acceptable distance to build another store. Just because there is a Walmart does not automatically doom a nearby business. You have to understand that it is ultimately on the smaller businesses to continue being smart and competitive in order to stay in business. If they don't do that, then they will fail completely on their own. They must move forward or die. One grand example is the town of Checotah. In that such tiny town, they have been supporting two full grocery stores for years. Several years ago, Walmart rebuilt into a huge Supercenter and to this day, the two grocery stores are still in thriving business. Checotah now have 3 grocery stores. Last year (a trip to Eufaula for New Year party), I was amazed at the low/affordable prices at Nichols compared to Walmart.

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

Correct!

This is a known fact for quite some time. TAFB has been doing as much as they can to keep homes and businesses far away from the area as possible. There is a deaf couple who were given incentives by TAFB to build a new home further east and part of the compensation was for longer drive distance.

I can understand why TAFB want to keep homes and businesses far away (recent example of witnessing a plane brushing the treetops at MWC's Festival of Lights). A lot of planes are flying dangerously close to the buildings and trees. I remember one plane flew dangerously low to Crest Market (Home of Rock Bottom Prices) and I could hear/feel the powerful engines along with the amazing view of the underside and the spinning engines.

However, it is ultimately up to the people and businesses for locating within such close distance. I personally think an agreement should be signed that TAFB can not be sued (the same as Sprint customers sign a contract stating they can not sue the company). Everyone choose their own risk.

Incentives can be declined/rejected, but the risk goes up. One example, MWC feels safety is below glamor when the enhanced shopping strip was built on 29th Street. The same for Del City's OnCue filled with thousands of gallons of gasoline with extreme potential to become a huge fireball inferno.

mmonroe, I just want to say once again, you are correct!

[Citation Needed]

I work on Tinker, have for quite some time, and I've NEVER heard even a whisper of these "incentives". Hell, I WISH there were some sort of incentive. I'd be on that like stink on a monkey. I love free stuff.

[BoulderSooner]

[Citation Needed]

I work on Tinker, have for quite some time, and I've NEVER heard even a whisper of these "incentives". Hell, I WISH there were some sort of incentive. I'd be on that like stink on a monkey. I love free stuff.

this ..

[BrettM2]

[Citation Needed]

I work on Tinker, have for quite some time, and I've NEVER heard even a whisper of these "incentives". Hell, I WISH there were some sort of incentive. I'd be on that like stink on a monkey. I love free stuff.

+1

[Drake]

I thought this would die on its own, but guess not.

I can assure that there are NOT any financial incentives offered to anybody. In my line of work I would aware of anything that is out there

[MikeLucky]

I can understand why TAFB want to keep homes and businesses far away (recent example of witnessing a plane brushing the treetops at MWC's Festival of Lights). A lot of planes are flying dangerously close to the buildings and trees. I remember one plane flew dangerously low to Crest Market (Home of Rock Bottom Prices) and I could hear/feel the powerful engines along with the amazing view of the underside and the spinning engines.

Do you enjoy just making stuff up? lol

[Speckopolis]

I live here in Choctaw, and am really excited about this project. I would LOVE to see a grocery store- maybe a wal-mart market or something other than Williams. Especially down near the Phillips 66 on Choctaw Road and 29th. All of us over here would love to be able to run up to a grocery store of some kind and be back within a few minutes rather tha 45 mins of driving round trip to williams or target. BUT back to the Town Square project...

As a resident of Choctaw, I would love to see some more places to eat and some shopping. We really need to beef this place up. Eventually a casino... a dog track... something to bring in some business- but this is a good start. I'm so glad to see something finally happening around here. And by the way- a community pool would be great too!

Anyway...Now I have gotten off track. I love Choctaw. I want this place to grow. Property values can go up (now that I have a house here..

[Speckopolis]

I wish there was incentive for people at Tinker to do their job. Not saying EVERYONE doesn't work, but the radar has been down for 6 years, and nobody gives a crap. Work ethic sucks, and the young guys spend all day goofing off where my husband works, and I think it's disgusting that the people in charge of them don't do anything about it. THEY would rather not have conflict, and keep doing nothing!

[BoulderSooner]

what radar has been down for 6 years??

just a note the pad site for phase 1 of this development is now graded and ready for the slab

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

X2, what radar?

As for work ethic...I work with some of the sharpest and hardest working people in my field. And I don't mean just in OKC, I mean period.

[stick47]

X2, what radar?

As for work ethic...I work with some of the sharpest and hardest working people in my field. And I don't mean just in OKC, I mean period.

+1 The maintenance shop workers at Tinker are as good as or better than any you'll find anywhere. Wonder how Tinker wins all those awards if nobody cares and the work ethic sucks?

[Dubya61]

I was reminded in this thread about a coworker at a previous duty station who stayed late almost every night to tip back a few brewskies with his compadres. Told his wife he had to stay late. She was convinced he was the hardest working dude in the unit and I, who usually went home on time, didn't have the same work ethic.

[Oh GAWD the Smell!]

I have a coworker that shows up two hours early for his shift every day and begs me to take off on his off-days so he can get OT.

Personally, I think he just doesn't like his wife much.

[BoulderSooner]

Choctaw's first Walmart is first confirmed tenant in Town Center project
Plans for a large development project off NE 23 in Choctaw also include a splash pad, new City Hall, restaurants and other shops, according to Choctaw Mayor Randy Ross.

CHOCTAW — Dirt work is nearly complete on Choctaw Town Center, a large development project on NE 23.

Walmart is building a 150,000-square-foot Supercenter here, the first Walmart in Choctaw, a city of about 11,000 east Oklahoma City.


Other plans for the project include a splash pad, new City Hall, retail and restaurants, said Choctaw Mayor Randy Ross.



Read more: http://newsok.com/choctaws-first-wal...#ixzz22VE0FrdK

[lasomeday]

WOW! This project is HORRIBLE! The suburbs continue to have no character and push the use of the automobile with parking as the most important aspects of the sites.

They can try to make cool colors to make the site look good, but it is still cookie cutter sprawl!