Staybridge Suites

[HangryHippo]

I thought Steve's article did a pretty good job calling out what I think has been a major point of difference between OKC and Tulsa for a long time. And the discrepancy in the levels of pride in our respective cities, at least in my experiences, was apparent in far more than just our differing qualities of architecture. This might seem like a lame example, but hear me out; when I went to college, kids from Tulsa would be proud to be from Tulsa and tout their city's alleged superiority, but kids from OKC didn't really want to talk about where they were from. Tulsa had things to do and had natural scenery and more culture. They were proud to be from such a place. The kids from OKC had the bombing. But OKC is starting to gain (the Thunder, God love them) and that has been instrumental in giving OKCitians something to be known for/proud of that isn't a terrorist bombing, idiotic laws, or the dust bowl. I think standards are being elevated in OKC, but we have a long, long way to go and I hope that our level of pride continues to rise as well.

[Steve]

Bricktown hotel development is unveiled | News OK

[Just the facts]

They have to be joking with that site plan they showed. That is one big no-go. I have a hard time believing they actually presented that. They should be 100% ashamed and then laughed out of town (or at least to Edmond).

http://newsok.com/bricktown-hotel-de...rticle/3755167

Approximate orientation of the hotel

[Steve]

Plans Unveiled for Bricktown Staybridge Suites | OKC Central

[betts]

Ugh. Does that have anything but EIFS on it? And does any design review committee have to sign off on it? Also, if the builder is the same Dr. Patel who bought land in Deep Deuce too, he's not demonstrating much interest in fitting in so far.

[Steve]

Read story about facade. Different Patel on Deep Deuce purchase

[Just the facts]

So let me ask Steve. I know you are a professional and all but did you burst out laughing when they unveiled that site plan? They probably would have had to escort me from the building (if I didn’t leave on my own first).

[PhiAlpha]

Read story about facade. Different Patel on Deep Deuce purchase

So it looks like they did not approve it...right I hope?

[shawnw]

Doesn't that site have to take into account the future walking trail connecting Deep Deuce and the boathouse district? Not obvious that it does, though my recollection of the route may be off...

[MDot]

The developers in this city are so distasteful. This suburban s*** being built in Bricktown -- mainly Lower Bricktown -- is just an abomination. I love Bricktown and its tourism draw, but my goodness I strongly dislike the majority of the developers in the BT area. The potential for BT is unreal if someone would just raise the bar a little.

And while it's on my mind, a Westin and Hyatt would go great in BT.

[therondo]

I one look at the site plan and renderings and felt overwhelmingly disgusted. Now I need some Pepto Bismol.....

[adaniel]

That rendering would look terrible even off of Memorial Road or 240, much less at the gateway of the state's premiere entertainment district. I hope the design committee plan on backing up their tough talk that was laid out in Steve's article.

[catch22]

That is.....wow.

Okay then.

[Just the facts]

That is.....wow.

Okay then.

Now that I had time to sleep on it...

[G.Walker]

I hope this doesn't get built, even if it was all brick it still sucks.....wow...more and more I am losing interest in downtown OKC development because of developers like this....

[BoulderSooner]

I hope this doesn't get built, even if it was all brick it still sucks.....wow...more and more I am losing interest in downtown OKC development because of developers like this....

look at where the lot is ... next to an elevated interstate across the street from a gas station and an auto body shop ...

[BoulderSooner]

So it looks like they did not approve it...right I hope?

it was just an info presentation they will come back later for approval .. (and most likely with a different design) remember that is that point of them coming early to get feedback and to make changes before it is actually on the agenda

[BoulderSooner]

Plans Unveiled for Bricktown Staybridge Suites | OKC Central

thanks for the story steve .. well done as usual

[BoulderSooner]

better look at the pics on steves blog Plans Unveiled for Bricktown Staybridge Suites | OKC Central

[LakeEffect]

On its face, the parking and building arrangement are directly agasint the Bricktown ordinance build-to and parking REGULATIONS, not even guidelines. They'd have to get at least two variances from the Board of Adjustment to build it this way. Not saying that couldn't happen - they'll argue about the ODOT ROW and the stormwater drainage issues. HOWEVER, I hope the BOA and others would consider that no one FORCED Patel to buy this land and try to build a hotel here...

My few cents for the day.

[Just the facts]

it was just an info presentation they will come back later for approval .. (and most likely with a different design) remember that is that point of them coming early to get feedback and to make changes before it is actually on the agenda

Which only means we have to stay vigilant to the 'Kevin Durant/Hogan smoke and mirrors' trick where they present a crappy design up front that is universally rejected, to then come back with a slightly less crappy design that wins a few approvals, and then the chorus of "you urbanist are against everything” starts - which then results in more crap getting built.

[BoulderSooner]

from looking at the lot on GIS this is a very strangely shaped lot (basically a triangle) on the southern end of reno and lincoln and that being the case i don't think any other site plan really works

[catch22]

from looking at the lot on GIS this is a very strangely shaped lot (basically a triangle) on the southern end of reno and lincoln and that being the case i don't think any other site plan really works

Put the building against Lincoln. Put the parking in the back against the railroad tracks.

[Just the facts]

Put the building against Lincoln. Put the parking in the back against the railroad tracks.

It is so simple it boggles the mind doesn't it.

[Steve]

So let me ask Steve. I know you are a professional and all but did you burst out laughing when they unveiled that site plan? They probably would have had to escort me from the building (if I didn’t leave on my own first).

No. To be fair, these guys are new to downtown development, and when everything was explained to them, they seemed eager to make changes that would better fit with Bricktown standards. They also showed great interest in improving the nearby streetscape. As for the site layout, they really have no choice but to do it angled due to the drainage easement and ODOT easement. I doubt there is anyone on this site, who, if they had the same situation, could come up with a better solution for the site.