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It needs to get into the site, not just pass by it. As it stands now it would be similar to dropping people off at the swing back loop at WRWA.

But that's also Fred Jones who isn't part of the Thunder ownership group.

Anyway, while I understand all of this area needs to come together, uh, together, and that having commonality in ownership...

What Fred Jones property that who co-owner?

Two pieces of information that are definitely new here and (in my mind) could/should have been included with the original vote:

1. Land allocated to compliment the transit hub. I understand how...

Why in the heck would you not include the fair grounds in that proposal?

I mean, but the hype was totally worth it when I went. I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was given the hype, but well deserved.

Still doesn't beat the BLC at Spark nor an on point Tucker's...

When do we think storms would start entering/firing in the El Reno area and moving eastward?

Memorial will be fine in general, but it no doubt has to compete with this area.

Downtown retail almost surely suffers from the success of the Belle Isle/Penn/Classen&63rd area.

Restaurants and retail generally do best en masse, especially retail.

Downtown and Memorial Rd. will suffer from Oak more than Penn Square/Classen Curve

I'm a actually incredibly shocked that the Thunder pulled the trigger (Ha!) on this deal. Agreed that hopefully the worst days are in the past.

What a zing!

Drove by on Penn the other day. The angle of the hotel really "hides" its size for people traveling on NWX. When you go by on Penn it just feels so much bigger. I think having Brick so far up the...

KFOR future radar shows the metro getting next to nothing. Everything will fire up just south of Norman before moving NE.

I was out in Calumet and El Reno today and while it was definitely colder than I'd associate, the air felt heavier out there....maybe it's just cause I'm a city boy.

Anyway, I hope it's not too...

The Olympics and completion of the arena will wipe away any residual knowledge of this farce. The 537 people outside of OKC who remember about this in 2035 will also have to live down those 2 things....

I'd have to think that the 005 has been affected. Anyone travelling between Downtown and Classen/NWX would surely take the 200 (Rapid) instead of the 005.

I wonder if the 005 would be the first...

From what I've gathered from people who live in naturally beautiful and "geographically advantaged" places is that you have to be super intentional with utilizing it otherwise it's just not worth it....

15 minute lead times for any public transit system is a joke. Even Rapid gets 12 minute leads during weekdays.

The lead times for the street car ought to be 8-10 minutes during peak times. That...

A more interesting study would be the ratio of downtown residential/workforce/recreational density to ridership compared to other cities.

At the pace we're growing/developing, downtown is probably...

They wouldn't be able to confirm that at this time because the agreement on who has naming rights has not been signed. It will most likely be left with the Thunder and they would likely keep Paycom...

That could certainly play a part. There are some franchise/business owners who want to make the quickest profit for the least amount of work and little to no concern for how their business impacts...

So annoying how they could crush the 23rd site lan and just completely biffed on the Western site. Hideaway did such an incredible job setting the tone for future new construction on this side of...

Where in this country are they going for NINE digits?

One thing about this in OKC: The best time for fire pits is either tornado season or football season.

As Pete previously pointed out, part of the property is already zoned commercial, so the developer could already tell the neighbors to pound sand on that portion of the property.

Also, The Hill...